Isomorphize I dont know what are you saying for "we are most fast", I have kill vanaduke "solo" more fast than you, but the video of solo sword is just for show how kill vanaduke with BTB, and the bombs; there is no other way to kill vanaduke with only bombs (this was record before patch), so: bombs ,or BTB the technique is doing circles do you liked or not.

No one denies Katt is near our level --> sorry but i think what you guys are near my level. The all videos show in this forum the only person can play as me is Nalrayi. But still think you play well.

Doing extremedly fast runnig hiting like barbarian reciving hits like crazy (like strudul), for me this is quite far to be pro gaming, i can do it fast as you reciving 0 damage. Otherwise de speed overal of the runnig depends of the weapons you choice too, if you know the game you will understand that. GLacius is more fast than DA:

Jmsa they started saying "No one denies Katt is near our level", like he will be better than me and it is not, sorry if that hurt someone, it is the reality. soo, if you guys dont want fight anymore, then dont write hilarius like that.

You're getting worse than Chris. I'm going to kindly ask you to stop. Just because you think you are better than these guys doesn't mean you ARE. --> I have eyes to see them play and see me play, so i can tell u, i am not "near" his level, BIG LOL, only that.

@Kat

"I am completely sure that i am better than u"

You are just sooooo far up your own arse.

"Strudul I dont neeed the 3* shield, becoz I already have ASI MAX so there is no point, if u want looking more "cool" for using that useless shield, is your way, otherwise i am not sure you know how dodge attacks cuz constantely losses hp."

Then use Barbarous Thorn Shield. The only reason to take an overly defensive shield is because you are incapable of doing anything without relying heavily on shielding. This shows a lack of skill, you can't deny it.

"in your video of 25 contentely have using charge atacks from glacius and blitz needle, so you are doing the same."

First of all.... Glacius? Glacius???? Glacius?????????????? O_O
This does not help your case of you being such a pro when you think I use a glacius.
Here's some helpful hints so you don't make yourself look like an idiot again:
-Glacius has a black handle
-Glacius inflicts freeze
-Voltedge has a red handle
-Voltedge inflicts shock
okay?

I counted the number of charge attacks used.... It is 30. That means less than one every 23.4 seconds. You clearly struggle with maths as well as sight.

"yea getting all the hits from monsters xD anybody can do it from your way, in other words you will know the floor more fast (Die), however, glacius it is a sword most fast than DA."

You say this, but then you can't. You have to take the most defensive gear and refuse to get into the fight. You never, NEVER go into a fight, you always hide behind your shield and attacks from a distance. You say I will die more, but then I don't. I take hits because I know I can, it wastes time to avoid every attack. I prefer to take some hits because it saves time. Even without a vitapod, I will happily take hits because I know it will not result in my death.
Anyone can attack from far away, there is nothing to think about, you just click, and run away from the enemies. The reason for playing the way I (and Nalrayi) do is because it is faster and more of a challenge. We are right in the middle of all the enemies which is much more risky. You have a lot more to think about and less time to react. You are closer, so you have less time to dodge/shield, and you can easily get swarmed. This, mixed with a 3* shield means that things can get pretty hectic if you don't know what you are doing. (An I think this is why you are scared to do it).

" LOL, i am not scared xD, I have show other way to kill vanaduke only sword, exile shows the dread can, the other guy the hammer and me the BTB., there not means that i cant kill vana with a dread vile strike, i already have but not alone:"

You show another easier way with less risk involved.

"this is just more circles, you in front, u cant just put a centimeter a side and evade his attack but still is a circle. the unike way there will be no circle is u state whitout movement in all the fight."

You clearly do not understand what a circle is xD
Here is a picture of a circle
And here is a song about circles (Even if you don't want to learn about circles, this song is pretty amazing :3)

So, what have we learned? A circle has to go all the way around. You can circle/rotate around a point, but it is not a full circle until you go round 360 degrees. Therefore going say 45 degrees clockwise, followed by 45 degrees anti-clockwise would be.......? That's right! Not a circle! :D

"avoid the vanadoke throw attack and not burn with the firebals it is not easy.. it is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO easy, even in 5 fase so i dont understand why says this."

Vanduke does not have a throw attack.
He has a hammer, a charge, and some fire snakes.

You are apparently missing the point which is......
If one person has duke aggro and is going round in circles, other team members have no control over vanaduke. This can lead to duke deciding to attack where the team is stood while you run around. This is why would side step in one area while the team is in another area out of harms way.
In case you are misunderstanding "spinning with the fireballs", this is where you water one of vanadukes fireballs, stand where that fireballs used to be, and move round at the same speed as the other fireballs whilst attacking vanaduke and not getting hit.

"BIG LOL!!! u dont have videos, the only videos u have are mediocres. accept that Nalrayi's as good videos, but not you, i am not saying you are not good, just your solo videos are crap, you needed 3 more good players to do it. I can play someway similar to Nalrayi's. so i dont need to see his videos, if you want see solos videos and learn to evade attacks and no getting hit/die, see my videos."

Of course I don't have videos, I am not gonna store up videos for no reason. My play style is almost the same as Nalrayis, so I am not seeing your point. The way play is practically the opposite to how Nalrayi plays, so you do need to see his videos. The fact that you can not see a difference is astonishing.

There is nothing hard about not being in a fight xD Nothing to learn from you.
Until you try playing the way I do, you can not comment. I have tried the way you play, that is how I used to play when I was doing FSC as a T2. There is no need to play like that when you are T3. Why, if you do not take any damage, do you need you big defensive volcanic plate shield, hmm?

" that says a guy who record a 25 in more than 10 minutes.. so u will do the 24, 26 and 27 together in the others 10 minutes left rigth?? just dont lie, I dont like to play hurry, i like take my time, that not means that u are better for doing less time."

In my video I also did the water and went to the elevator.

I never said I do 20 minute runs alone.... Having 4 people in D25 saves a lot of time, where as in solo you have to run to every room.

You don't like to hurry because you can't, simple as.
I am better then you at going fast... right? You can not deny that, correct?

"a ramdom guy with your party can do that, make a dakrfire vanaduke video alone better or vanaduke alone, if you critics mine, then you should do it more better/more fast than me or not??, I dont go to darkfire so long cuz there is no crowns, and i dont have much money, but darkfire is than easily as normal vanaduke."

Alone takes more time, and as I said before in many ways it is easier.
You are avoiding what I asked you to do. One darkfire vanaduke, in under 2:32, feel free to go as a team.
A shadow key costs 1800ce max, divide that between a 4 man party = 450ce
450ce (at 70cr per 1 ce) = 31.5k
You are telling me you do not have 31.5k? <_<

"See my 26 video, I never get damage in all nivel, try to do it or closely, in rigth side, four botons opened, zombies never touchme..."

Hate to break it to you, but anyone can do that, and a majority of people do xD

You didn't even press all the buttons before killing most of them. You pressed one button at a time and then spammed charge attacks while hiding in the corner. You DA pushes them back so far, please tell me you did not think any of that took skill?

"I would like see you attaking ramdonly like a barbarian with your glacius with no defence, geting all the hits from sombies in ur face... that will be frankly laughable xD"

What you would see is me killing them all without hiding in the corner and still not dying. But why waste time making a video of something everyone does on a daily basis.

"Otherwise I dont saying that your videos are bad, the tho are skillfull, but are just players like everybody else, I not conciderer you or Nalrayi's more skillfull than me, just that."

I think you will find that most players play like you...

"the same..i am not refusing. But you not beat nothing only have the 1:19 video not the 1:09 video."

You kinda are refusing... Go on, give me a compliment.

I started off thinking you were not that bad, but nothing special. You are worthy of a compliment, but unfortunately you think you are a lot better than you actually are. If you just for a second acknowledged other people's "talent" you may learn a thing or two.

This started off as healthy competition, then you joined in, and your attitude is just so appalling and disrespectful. It is extremely off-putting and this has turned into more of a fight.

You are worse than kids on COD, I half expect you to start shouting at me and demanding a 1v1 xD

Strudul, only Writte crap... I i am the girl that are speaking in other languaje, go to spanish forum and fight with me if you can.

First of all.... Glacius? Glacius???? Glacius?????????????? O_O
This does not help your case of you being such a pro when you think I use a glacius.
Here's some helpful hints so you don't make yourself look like an idiot again:
-Glacius has a black handle
-Glacius inflicts freeze
-Voltedge has a red handle
-Voltedge inflicts shock
okay?

I was wtriting at 1:am, in bed, just see your video quick to see the color of your weapon, and i see like the glacius, well, such less merite doing with voltedge, can inflict more damage. kids when dont have razon just see stupid razons for fights.

Then use Barbarous Thorn Shield. The only reason to take an overly defensive shield is because you are incapable of doing anything without relying heavily on shielding. This shows a lack of skill, you can't deny it. --> if you are good as you say, you have to know they are diferent styles of playing, I have all the type of defences shields of the game, they are used for distint situations, incluiding that 3* shield, i play too with it, but me shield prefered it is volcanic cuz, i dont play with it for the protection that givme for your sadness, i play with it for that combine with my colors, then i record with it to look more nice, so btb or shield3* are uglys, and i dont need his bonuses to play well.

the shield3* gives you more speed, the "voltedge" gives you more speed too, and still cant dodge all attacks... you say i dont need shield I can dodge attacks, but in the video you dodge nothing reciving all damage so i dont know if you shieding with your face, explaint to me.

You say this, but then you can't. You have to take the most defensive gear and refuse to get into the fight. You never, NEVER go into a fight, you always hide behind your shield and attacks from a distance. You say I will die more, but then I don't. I take hits because I know I can, it wastes time to avoid every attack. I prefer to take some hits because it saves time. Even without a vitapod, I will happily take hits because I know it will not result in my death.
Anyone can attack from far away, there is nothing to think about, you just click, and run away from the enemies. The reason for playing the way I (and Nalrayi) do is because it is faster and more of a challenge. We are right in the middle of all the enemies which is much more risky. You have a lot more to think about and less time to react. You are closer, so you have less time to dodge/shield, and you can easily get swarmed. This, mixed with a 3* shield means that things can get pretty hectic if you don't know what you are doing. (An I think this is why you are scared to do it). ---> in the middle of all the enemies??? you just charge attack then just click click click atack with normal hits behind hiding for your attack charge, where is the skill on that?? In my videos i am in the middle of all the enemies and dont get hit, do it now, record a video in 26 all of zombies dont damage if you can. Otherwise I have this 3* shield, and I KNOW how to play with it, it is more easily just avoid the attacks using this shield, i played with it many times and can avoid "really" avoid the attacks. If you want i can record a video with it, but it will be the same, cuz with volcanic or with 3* shield I avoid all attacks. so I am playing in desventaje, u have more speed, i am not, but i can dodge more than you, even with 2 bars of conection (more latency), u have full bars...

You show another easier way with less risk involved. --> yes, and you what are you do it??

Vanduke does not have a throw attack.
He has a hammer, a charge, and some fire snakes. --> Big LOL you know what i want mean so dont write crap.

So, what have we learned? A circle has to go all the way around. You can circle/rotate around a point, but it is not a full circle until you go round 360 degrees. Therefore going say 45 degrees clockwise, followed by 45 degrees anti-clockwise would be.......? That's right! Not a circle! :D --> just more crap coments.

Alone takes more time, and as I said before in many ways it is easier.
You are avoiding what I asked you to do. One darkfire vanaduke, in under 2:32, feel free to go as a team.
A shadow key costs 1800ce max, divide that between a 4 man party = 450ce
450ce (at 70cr per 1 ce) = 31.5k
You are telling me you do not have 31.5k? <_<
I do but i am getting more crowns for ld, so for now not sorry, and other thing, record a solo video darkfire, or do a solo run, i will do it when i have the crowns, so hope you will do it too rigth? or just hiding/scary in your team?

"See my 26 video, I never get damage in all nivel, try to do it or closely, in rigth side, four botons opened, zombies never touchme..."
Hate to break it to you, but anyone can do that, and a majority of people do xD --> so the majority is better than you, cuz you dont cant xD

What you would see is me killing them all without hiding in the corner and still not dying. But why waste time making a video of something everyone does on a daily basis.--> sorry but i dont play for "no diying" i play for "no get hit" i am on other level.

I think you will find that most players play like you...> litle kid, I have many hours tan you in SP, so i know more.

"the same..i am not refusing. But you not beat nothing only have the 1:19 video not the 1:09 video."
You kinda are refusing... Go on, give me a compliment.--> common, I have a vanaduke in 1:16 with slags in fase 5, soo, I do it more fast than u, u will give me a compliment to me?

I started off thinking you were not that bad, but nothing special. You are worthy of a compliment, but unfortunately you think you are a lot better than you actually are. If you just for a second acknowledged other people's "talent" you may learn a thing or two. --> LOL, I think the same as you, not bad, but nothing special. your best videos are with 4 people partys... and then u says my solo videos vanaduke are easily, you dont have anyone just in 4 parties, i am enough strong to record solo, common givme a compliment.

ok, then, you want a vanaduke run with a shield3*, you will have and do will better than your.
Darkfire vanaduke --> not now i am getting crowns for ld and i dont have a strong party to do it.

Strudul you make so much assumptions, In the video you see it, I like to record and see me nice, I dont record to do the "most fast" video, for that i use the shield can conbine with my gears, I have play lots of times with this 3* shield but not record, i like to see me beautiful, and you see my video using this shield and assume that i cantnot play with another shield?? this is hilarius, kid you are assuming to much.

Attacking speed != dodge speed. As I said, I take damage almost on purpose because it saves time and is not necessary to dodge everything. You do not even get close enough to dodge anything, you just keep well away from the fight, where is the skill in that? --> in what moment i run away??, in every places i still in the area figthing, you are wrong out of your mind.

You are not in the middle of enemies, you are either far away from all of them, or in a corner. I could record a D26 without getting hit, but this would be slower and I have better things to do. --> who is the one who is run away??.....

A shield does not help you avoid attacks. Nobody cares about avoiding attacks. Anybody can avoid attacks (especially if they do not enter the fight like you). --> I dont use my Volcanic shield to protect me, cuz I avoid the attacks, if u see my videos the shield is allways blue.

common, I have a vanaduke in 1:16 with slags in fase 5, soo, I do it more fast than u, u will give me a compliment to me?

Meh, I do not think blitz takes that much skill and it is boring. Of course you do it faster with practice. I did not expect mine to be a record, it was a first attempt with no preparation. I recorded to check the time and we had beaten you. --> allway i kill vana faster, cuz i am playing sp before u, and our record are with no preparation, cuz we do it from diferent members, and yes, we beaten you, with slags in fase 5, do you liked or not: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB6RX1wza1w&list=UUJLAaARoyN-FSuhBKB7K81g...
Watever, this vanas depend too much at your party, soo record a vana solo and lets compare.

I will say it again... solo is easier. Just 4 man is faster, and I prefer speed. --> the truth is you are too mediocre to record solo sorry if it hurt, you are hiding in your team.

I wonder why you don't have a strong party? Maybe because you insult everyone? --> you and enterprice started 77

well, i dont want to fight more, soo to finish this fight, i will asume that strudul and enterprice are near my level, now are all happy!!

Lol, just because you are in the same arena does not mean you can't run away. You always back off from enemies rather than staying in and attacking. --> LOL, it is my style of playing, i am not a barbarous than the oly thing it does is click click click and more click, reciving hits, more click click click oh, my enemyes are dead, i am happy. i am not using the bug in 25 rigth up, when the trojan dont show, i kill all zombies, trojans togheter, i dont use the Torret bug, to dont shot me.

FOr you knowloge, my volcanic shield dosent protect me as much your shield 3* from the zombies.

In my video, I didn't even use Blitz for phase 1-4 --> I have videos of killing vanaduke "solo" with only BTB, other with only dark thorn blade, others with callahan, others with RSS, others with blitz, others with argent peacemaker, others with dread venom strikers, and you?
Otherwise use a sword in fases 1-4 is very easy i dont see the skill in that.

Tell me in what video you play better? in 0

Party vs vanaduke = Kattamoon wins (olders videos = crap pc))
Alone vs vanaduke = kattamoon wins (Olders videos = crap pc)
FSC = katamoon wins (Olders videos = crap pc)
Darkfire vanaduke = I dont have record yet

Wait for the new videos :P

then the result is:

Kattamoon > strudul and enterprize toghether is the truth asume it.

"Tell me in what video you play better?"
Hmm.... All? --> ??? all = 0 videos??
post your videos here: ................................ lol nothing happens.

Not spawning the trojan at the same time hardly makes a difference.... But I did not want him coming in and splitting up the slags, I want them in one group. Not aggroing the puppy is by chance. You didn't fight with it attacking did you? Therefore it is the same... ---> Noobs plays wihts bugs i dont needed, i kill everybody together it is more fun.

Kattamoon > Strudul and Entropize at being a noob maybe... --> yes!!, then, all time :D, cuz a noob cant be a noob =/

I have never seen a more perfect example of a thread that indicates this forum needs Private Messaging implemented.

Who wants to read two little junior high kids go at it in an attempt to display their wannabe e-wit?

I also think you will find you bugged the rocket puppy. This may no have been intentional, but if you were that desperate to not bug it, you would have aggro'd it. --> you bugged, you runnit from room (like a girl) and state in up position, then enter the room in down position to the pupy dont see u, it is a BUG. and you runing away, cant do it when pupys shot you.

Well I call it tactics, but that is clearly too advanced for you yet again --> you call tactics cant do a room with one trojan and some zombies together.. well this was a noob tactics. I know that tactics and all the others but i dont need them to not die.

Again: post your videos here: ................................ lol nothing happens.

soo, for other people maybe you are a proh, but for me, dont, just a other player more. maybe some day you can play as me with more practice and these day you will be nearly to my nivel.

do you not realize yet??.. for you being best it is do a fast runn, reciving whatever hit, strudul: "i am most cool cuz i am fast killing, reciving loot of hit but it is ok i dont die", this is quite far far away to be a proh, I dont record my videos to do in less time, even else my videos are than fast as yours, and that you are esfort to do a less time. when I want to do a less time, I will do in the half time you make it.

But you see, I used to play similar to you back when I first started playing. --> then back to play as olders days, cuz now you crap., and i already se the olders videos from u, and still crap, when time do you refered? or dont remenber?? your olders videos, trowing zombies to your partners, reciving multiples hits.... well at leat you are improvement.

Strudul just saying crap
There is nothing you can attack to me

my lenguaje??
the names??
The circles??
You saying that you played has me??

LOL

I can say the same as you:

Use google translate to go to the spanish forum.
When I first played sp, I was played like you.

See it is easy just write thinks but you dont have any probe, your videos still are crap
Lots of hits, lots of bugs, lots of charge attacks, lots of trowing zombies to your partners, resume: lots of errors.

in 25 you kill the 2 trojans from the left, you do a 1 charge attack to kill the first trojan and the other hits you, LOL
this is proohh!! bravo xD
Anyone could do this as your way
but dont worry, one hits donsent kill you, soo, continue playing as noobs as you as all the time.
Just know one thing kattamoon > strudul it is all
well now i goin to upload some videos, se ya

O boy, now Kat thinks we are inferior to Nalrayi since we dont have exact duplicates of his videos. Maybe Nalrayi can comment and assure you this is not the case. Now you are simply being insulting Katt.

-Entropize

You own me in LD? Que up with me sometime I will rock your world my friend. Below is a list of people you can learn from in pve, end of story:

Nalrayi
Strudul
Saidxp
Jaroche
Sg-Hotsauce
Shisho
Firmglutes
Theirillusion
Mister Chilled
Meida
Me

Also, you play NOTHING like Nalrayi.

-Entropize

I know probably near 1000 players, and I was in Apathy/RoC with exiled and meida. Exiled quit so I didnt put him on my list, and I forgot to put Meida. I spend pretty much all my time in game with Nalrayi, and have now done everything he has done in his videos. Perhaps you should quit telling me I need to learn from people I spent hundreds of hours with, and go learn yourself. You dont need to be the best.

-Entropize

Katt: the official new SK trollmaster.

I like how she keeps calling you Enterprice, Entrop.

Camille-Kaze do you looking soo fabulous videos and judge for that?? do you need to I kill darkfire vanaduke with 1 hit to you call it fabulous?? he make a faboluos video soo he is the most pro... this is wrong, I am not doing any videos for impresing people, like all this players, that thinks that with one most impresible and fabulous solo darkfire and more they will be the most prosh this is hilarious, it is enougth see a player only figthing with zombies to know how he plays, maybe i will make some sl video to show all peolple that there is no proh person in SP cuz is too easy. so dont tell me that you guys are better than me cuz i can do anyting they have done. and to me, still his name is enterprize jaja sorry i dont remember how is his real in game nickname.

Otherwise, When i record my videos I was playing in my older pc, recording with 5-15 fps with high lag, with this condition there is imposible record in SL or do a "fabulous video"

Now i have a better computer, but i dont have a recorder, tell me what programs used for recording??

Talking about that, maybe you should get a social life sometimes. I remember you having more than 100 days of playtime. This is too much, get some air. --> yea i play alot :D

Enterprice dont insult people I have dont insult to you, if you are happy to calling troll to a girl then you must be very happy congratulations.
This is the responds for a child that see another good player and cant admite.

I see the only way you guys admite is that i could play with us.

I understand you're ESL but his name is Entropize and it's right above one of the posts in which you misspelt his name. At least try.

that were vary sweet. Kootamonchilly aprogizign to enterprice. I can be a harpy nao.

Repetitiveness describes he nature of your ongoing running process, not the craft learned via the repetition: i.e. skill.

-Entropize

This has kept meh quite entertained during schoolz,^^ Sadly I don't think I did so well on my quiz

You need a slap.

This is precisely why women should not leave the kitchen.

The whole argument you guys were throwing the same stuff at each other. I don't get how you could complain if you're doing the same. Go play eachother in chess or something.