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Remove Graveyard levels from the game.

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Thu, 04/28/2011 - 21:43
#51
Raul
So perhaps they dont need

So perhaps they dont need removed, they need freshened up with new ideas.

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 22:14
#52
BehindCurtai
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Good point. Old graveyards:

Good point.

Old graveyards: Way too easy. No mass spawn.
New graveyards: Too repetitive, too much grind, not enough fun.

So what would make a better mechanic?

Alright. Lets get rid of the timer monster. Or maybe get rid of the timer function -- kill it, and it stays dead. Maybe there are some buried spirits that will behave like that when disturbed, but when dead, stay dead.

Mass spawns are a good touch -- no matter that you're trying to be careful, having 6 graves trigger because you touched that one does make for a moment of fright. But it's still "Recover, move back, kill them."

Hmm...

Well, you normally move into areas, spawn things, kill them, move into the next.

Maybe that's all you can get in a graveyard. Sure, skeletons/zombies/whatever they're called. Some spirits that move diagonally across the void. Sometimes you spawn only the graves you touch, and sometimes you spawn a group of graves at once.

But it would eliminate the rinse and repeat feeling.
It would eliminate the whole "Never mind all the side rooms, all the energy doors, just find the elevator as quick as you can" feel.

Fri, 04/29/2011 - 05:02
#53
Sunflash
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lol sword-users.

Graveyards fail against gunners. Pack a gun instead of your silly sword, and learn to kite. I've saved a full team from a total wipe by simply kiting the phantoms while chipping away at them.

Yes, I know it's hard to believe it's possible, but Graveyards are one of the few places where a Gunner can actually shine compared to melee-foos. Try it. :)

Fri, 04/29/2011 - 08:41
#54
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New-Dusk
At First, i thought ninja

At First, i thought ninja gaiden was hard, then i played demon's souls.... Ninja Gaiden is not so difficult any more

Fri, 04/29/2011 - 09:46
#55
Tyrfang
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Here's an alternative: For

Here's an alternative:

For [?] level floors, allow players to choose the option of a random vanilla floor, or a chance of either an Arena, Treasure vault, Aurura Isle, or Graveyard (Random).

That way, both options exist...problem solved?

Fri, 04/29/2011 - 10:29
#56
ZeekSFire
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In the words of You don't know Jack

Don't Be A Wimp!

As many others have said, graveyards are not that hard. Honestly whenever I go into one, I tell the other people to go ahead whenever the swordwraiths show up and I'll catch up. When they are charging their attack, they are leaving themselves extremely vulnerable, or if you aren't charged, you can easily outrun them. There's no party buttons to get in the way, and graveyards. The problems occur when you have multiple people fighting multiple wraiths, for target changing and immunity to being knocked out of attacks means someone's going to either a. jump in front of an attack when trying to attack, or b. shove the wraith to another person, and they get slaughtered.

I'm probably one of the few people that says, Aww man, another treasure room? I wanted a graveyard!

P.S. I didn't bring up the 10k zombies, cause if you can't kill zombies, you need to go up a tier till you learn how. (and stop wielding cutter/striker weaponry, it's not helping with it's huge chain before it's disrupt hit)

Mon, 05/09/2011 - 12:20
#57
nearo
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If they did that,

they'd hafta remove vaults too to balance it, and graves can be fun.

Tue, 05/10/2011 - 05:52
#58
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Shue-Donnym
Difficulty curve in graveyards

T1:Meh.
T2:Okay, this is slightly unpleasant.
T3:WHY?!
I enjoy graveyards very much. While my partymates are out there getting their butts kicked, i sneak around looking for crystals and heat. It would be a very fun business if only the place wasn't crawling with zombies. ): D

Tue, 05/10/2011 - 13:58
#59
Loki
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Graveyards make some of the

Graveyards make some of the easiest Crown in the game.

Graveyards are only more difficult when in a party. All dungeons become more difficult when you have more players with you, and that's a fact. Graveyards, with a party, will spawn more Phantoms. It will always spawn one per party member, so a total of four can be sent out if you're in a full party.

When you're solo just take your time and Graveyards are as easy as ripping a piece of wet paper.

If you're in Tier 2 or above Graveyards are a nightmare if you're in a party full of those who don't know what they're doing.

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 00:26
#60
RapBreon
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I love graveyards!

The thread should be retitled; "remove fun from the game".

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