Spiral Knights - the next boring Accessory promo

the next boring Accessory promo

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Mon, 05/21/2012 - 00:27

Misogyny

we all know it's coming. for $10, you can get 3500 ce and this useless accessory that you'll immediately sell for as much as possible. wings, love auras, more wings, hats and candles (seriously? this was beyond awful), even entire costumes like rose regalia and sonic.

and since we all know that its coming, why not prevent the next party blowout from entering the game and suggest an accessory?

sidearms. think of it. we have parrying blades and side blades. we even have bomb bandoliers and a pumpkin bomb bandolier (everyone got one!). why can't the gunslingers have a gun at their side, ready to whip out in a moments notice? (and perhaps give the front accessory back to gunslinger gear).

give me the model of a blackhawk or silversix to put on my knight, at the hip (where a parrying blade would go). and because such things already exist, the 'divine' sidearm can be a silversix at your side. a 'shadow' sidearm can be a blackhawk ready to poke holes in those annoying beggars. the rest: cool, regal, etc. can all follow form and look spectacular at your side. and maybe, just maybe, those gunslingers won't feel so left out.

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and since we're talking about guns, why not add an ammo belt, or an ammo aura? who wouldn't want .308 bullets slung over their shoulders, or dropping to the ground around them in an aura? ( http://accurateshooter.net/pix/bhills175x250.jpg ) the ammo belt would certainly come in a variety of colors. think of it. adding a shadow bullet belt to your snarbolax coat, for the ultimate badassery. or even better, take a page from that dreadful birthday celebration and release both in the same patch! $10 gets you one of 11 ammo belts, the adventure pack now comes with a free ammo aura.

OOO, we know it's coming. we know you're going to tempt us with trinkets and accessories to get us to pay you money to keep this game running. Please don't reward us with birthday candles and party blowouts. give us something shiny and pimpin. give me a gun at my side, or bullets dropping to the floor around me.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 01:27

Schattentag

the next boring Page of suggestions

since we all know that its coming, why not prevent the next duplicate thread from entering the forums and click through the first few pages or use the search bar?

accessories. think of it. we have eyeballs and brains. we even have internet-capable devices and a way to interact with them (everyone's got one!). why can't people have a decency to look at the next page or use the search bar, ready to build on what's already been suggested and conceptualized? (and perhaps give the front page a thread worth looking at).

give me the link of a piece of artwork or at least a suggestion that isn't worded in an entirely selfish way to put on my mind, at the front (where a logical thought process would go). and because such things already exist, the 'existing' link can be a thread already on my mind. a 'not-selfish' wording can be a nice bit of flavor text ready to put a little more personality those existing suggestions. the rest: arrogant, ignorant, etc. can all follow form and look silly by my caustic parodying. and maybe, just maybe, those people won't feel so silly next time they don't use the resources available to them.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 01:48

Misogyny

congrats, you found one item

congrats, you found one item that overlapped!

give yourself a pat on the back for your attempt at reverse-satire. I will admit, I tried to read it all; I really did! but in the end, I just couldn't get passed the "OMG IM SO IMPORTANT LOOK AT ME SHOOT DOWN AN IDEA!" attitude you were just condemning to bring myself to care.

I'll give you a 3/10 for the attempted intelligence.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 02:18

Psychodestroyer

....

" I will admit, I tried to read it all; I really did! but in the end, I just couldn't get passed the "OMG IM SO IMPORTANT LOOK AT ME SHOOT DOWN AN IDEA!" attitude you were just condemning to bring myself to care."

You and I must be looking at different posts. Manal's post looks fine to me.

Despite your immediate dislike of his attitude, it IS true. There are plenty more worthwhile threads discussing new accessories, like the one he linked earlier.

And your immediate rebuttal of him does not reflect well on your own attitude.

Directing to the use of the search bar is common practice on the forums. Too often we get more than 5 people suggesting the same thing, sometimes within the week.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 02:45

Misogyny

"Too often we get more than 5

"Too often we get more than 5 people suggesting the same thing, sometimes within the week."

1 suggestion overlapped. to summarily lump all "accessory" suggestions into the same thread is quite ridiculous. we'd be sitting here with maybe 10 threads total for all the various aspects of the game.

"Despite your immediate dislike of his attitude, it IS true. ... And your immediate rebuttal of him does not reflect well on your own attitude."

/facepalm

instead of simply listing my suggestions in a boring manner, I added more words to amuse myself. it's not like I hid my suggestions. the first one is the only word in the first sentence of the paragraph. the second and third suggestion are in the first sentence of a clearly separated out section of the post. for someone to step in and condemn me for amusing myself, calling me "arrogant, ignorant, etc." (and like every idiot on the internet, misusing the word ignorant) and THEN completely bastardize my creativity with his backwards drivel? call my ideas stupid. thats fine. do not attempt to mimic my personality and utterly fail.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 03:25

Psychodestroyer

^_-

"1 suggestion overlapped. to summarily lump all "accessory" suggestions into the same thread is quite ridiculous. we'd be sitting here with maybe 10 threads total for all the various aspects of the game."

Logically speaking, that WOULD be better. However, it's not possible, due to the forums lacking any system to maintain such a version and NOT have it spin out of control.

By that logic, it would be perfectly acceptable for me to post an idea, watch it fade into the depths of the Suggestions, then post it again instead of bumping it, OR, as a better example, post another Guild Hall Upgrades thread when there is clearly Severage's compilation thread which posting on would be much more fruitful.

"Despite your immediate dislike of his attitude, it IS true. ... And your immediate rebuttal of him does not reflect well on your own attitude."

Your linking of my two unrelated sentences is earning you no favors either. They were separate points, and should be treated as such. Granted, they were speaking of the same person. However, the subject of the first half was closed at the end of it's sentence.

Regardless, his hostility wasn't entirely unwarranted. You OP was somewhat insulting and selfish-sounding, saying how boring and terrible things are, as well as the somewhat 'Duh, isn't it obvious' tone that rings through it generally.

"for someone to step in and condemn me for amusing myself"

The guy who massacred those students last year execution style for being 'actively multicultural' would say the same about all the rage and hate pointed towards him. You offended someone, it'd have been much better for everyone involved if you had simply said 'I did not mean it that way, I was just trying to make my post less dull'. From your current attitude, I suspect it would be asking a bit much to add a 'sorry' in there.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 03:45

Misogyny

"Your linking of my two

"Your linking of my two unrelated sentences"

was not my intention. I was merely addressing both of those in the same paragraph, so I included both sentences.

"Logically speaking, that WOULD be better."

sure. and if the forums were set up in such a way, I would have posted in the accessories thread. they are not. whining about it like an (if it's filtered in the game, do not use it in the forums) does nobody any good.

"saying how boring and terrible things are"

there was a general consensus among all people I have known that the birthday promo was awful. there was a similar consensus in the market price of those accessories. I'm not quite sure how you can interpret "OOO, you effed up" as selfish. is it the "my idea is better than birthday candles"? I'm pretty sure 80% of the player base could beat party blowouts and birthday candles.

"The guy who massacred those students"

oh joy! now I'm equivalent to a murderer! whats next, are you going to compare me to migrating fish? an animal in the zoo? care to make any other completely ridiculous analogies?

"You offended someone"

if a playfully worded suggestion post offends you, you have no business on the internet. if my post broke any rules, report it and move on. if not, kindly be an obtuse doofus elsewhere. (note, that is to the proverbial "you", not you specifically)

"it'd have been much better for everyone involved if you had simply said 'I did not mean it that way, I was just trying to make my post less dull'"

on the contrary. my 2nd post in this thread brought me amusement as well. and I meant all of the conveyed messages of my OP. I made a suggestion to try and prevent another 'anniversary' style promo from happening as well as condemning OOO's SOP of bribing the players with shinys instead of legit game improvements.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 04:04

Psychodestroyer

^_-

The more I see you post, the more irritated I am becoming.

"whining about it like an (if it's filtered in-game, don't use it here) does nobody any good."

Now wasn't that rude? Explain to me where I am 'whining like an (even if you're quoting)' and not simply stating current facts or my own opinion. Keyword 'stating'.

Likewise, that statement can be reversed to describe your own attitude regarding Manal's post. I need not say more on that subject.

"there was a general consensus among all people I have known that the birthday promo was awful. there was a similar consensus in the market price of those accessories."

Key phrase 'among the people you know'. People you know =/= People on the forums. You need to learn to stop assuming people you see are the same people everywhere.

"I'm not quite sure how you can interpret "OOO, you effed up" as selfish."

Quote where I said it was selfish. I seem to have misplaced that part of my posts.

"is it the "my idea is better than birthday candles"?"

SK isn't allowed to celebrate it's birthday with candles? Geez you make so little sense. It was an anniversary update, you can hardly be surprised there were candles and cake.

"oh joy! now I'm equivalent to a murderer! whats next, are you going to compare me to migrating fish? an animal in the zoo? care to make any other completely ridiculous analogies?"

It astounds me how you insist on deliberately misinterpreting my posts. If I absolutely MUST spell it out for you:

Your opinion of how you operate is your opinion. Obviously. Assuming that for some ridiculous reason not everyone is the same as you, someone else will think differently about the way you operate. Some parents see fit to beat their kids into submission. Others find that way repulsive and try to nurture their kids with kindness. Whichever way, people think differently. If you refuse to accept the plain fact that your 'amusement' can be offensive to some people, then there's not much anyone can do for you.

"if a playfully worded suggestion post offends you, you have no business on the internet."

'Playful' is subjective. It's a simple matter for someone to take it the wrong way, and it's no-ones fault but your own for not correcting them before things got out of hand.

Granted, if someone took offense at the word 'a' for any reason, that WOULD be silly unless the person had a good, personal reason to be offended.

Then again, with that attitude, OOO would theoretically have no right to censor player names for ruining 'playfully worded names'.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 05:51

Myg-Mog

Hi, I'm Here To Clean This Up.

Derailing hate. Beep. Derailment complete.

Who wants a cookie? I put a load of choco in it! :L....

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 07:37

Schattentag

"to summarily lump all "accessory" suggestions into the same thread is quite ridiculous."

Next you're gonna tell me your OP didn't originally contain a sentence that said something like "what accessory would you like to see in the next promo?", right?

EDIT:
You're also gonna tell me you weren't ignorant or unaware of Alphastevo's thread, right? That's why you made a bullet bandolier/ammo belt without crediting Alphastevo or even hinting that the idea may have been suggested previously, right?

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:15

#10

Misogyny

"Explain to me where I am

"Explain to me where I am 'whining like an (if it's filtered in-game, it should be filtered here)"

oh dear lord, the stupidity. not everything said to you is about you. can you not grasp this?

"Key phrase 'among the people you know'."

right, and just completely disregard the part where I include a majority of the SK populace. very, very intelligent of you. you should get a gold star!

"If you refuse to accept the plain fact that your 'amusement' can be offensive to some people, then there's not much anyone can do for you."

oh joy, (if it's filtered in-game, it should be filtered here) people making (if it's filtered in-game, it should be filtered here) assumptions. are we going to next assume that I consider myself the pinnacle of humanity and that I believe everyone should aspire to be like me? perhaps I'm a staunch supporter of stalin communism! they have just as much relevance to this as beating children or murderers. it's really quite simple, though. sometimes your analogies are completely unrelated. with yours, they actually are incredibly unrelated.

"it's no-ones fault but your own for not correcting them before things got out of hand."

no, I'm quite positive misinterpretation of words is not my fault. and I'm also quite sure that unwanted and unneeded hostility as is represented in mana's first post is against the ToS/forum rules. I'd report if it bothered me. sadly, the opinions of halfwits do not irk me in the slightest.

"Next you're gonna tell me your OP didn't originally contain a sentence that said something like "what accessory would you like to see in the next promo?", right?"

I await relevance. I like corned beef too, but that doesn't have anything to do with any issues here either.

"You're also gonna tell me you weren't ignorant or unaware of Alphastevo's thread, right?"

oh joy! more misuse of that word. but I am not surprised. if ignorant and unaware held the same definition, you could interchange them whenever you like. sadly, that isn't the case. while being unaware is a part of ignorance, there is a very distinct difference. using 'big words' does not prove anything. using 'catchy' words like ignorant incorrectly is simply embarrassing. you can (am I giving you too much credit?) do better.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:39

#11

Softhead

BEHOLD!

This turned from a suggestion with some uh-very aggresive language into a rage forum.

No matter what happens here, the OP has ruined their rep.

Someone put this out of its misery.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:54

#12

The-Ark

And another reputation bites

And another reputation bites the dust.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 13:11

#13

Schattentag

"what accessory would you like to see in the next promo?"
"to summarily lump all "accessory" suggestions into the same thread is quite ridiculous."

How I'm interpreting what you said (and/or do not deny to have said):
"Put more accessory suggestions in this thread"
"By the way, it's silly to put all accessory suggestions in one thread"

From this I gather that you are a conniving person who goes back on his/her word in order to present a seemingly stronger position in the argument at hand, and that I therefore have little reason to even attempt to work with you in building a stronger suggestion through discussion and compromise. Is that more relevant now?

I don't see why you're still going on about my supposed misuse of "ignorant". Unless I'm reading it wrong, the third definition here says that "ignorant" can be defined as "unaware". This works too.

EDIT:
"I'm not quite sure how you can interpret "OOO, you effed up" as selfish."

If you're looking for where I took your suggestion as selfish, look here:
"give me the model of a blackhawk..."

To me at least, "give me [object]" seems like a selfish way to word things.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:57

#14

Serell

@OP

You always capitalize the first letter in a sentence.
I mean sometimes people make mistakes, but.... derp ._.
Kind of hard to take you seriously when you have not wrote one sentence that started with a capitalized letter.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 13:08

#15

Misogyny

"This turned from a

"This turned from a suggestion with some uh-very aggresive language into a rage forum."

and yet I am somehow to blame? see post #1.

"And another reputation bites the dust."

oh noes, internet children think (correctly) that I'm an (if it's filtered in-game, it should be filtered here). I am so wounded?

"How I'm interpreting what you said (and/or do not deny to have said):
"Put more accessory suggestions in this thread"
"By the way, it's silly to put all accessory suggestions in one thread""

and this is why (Personal attacks are not cool). I have previously stated the reasoning for the amount of words in my OP. a simple list of a few accessories would have bored the bajesus out of me. I added flair for my own amusement. as is internet fashion, you not only bastardized my original meaning but then continued to argue based on your flawed impression even after being corrected.

"I therefore have little reason to even attempt to work with you in building a stronger suggestion through discussion and compromise."

wait, woah woah woah. woah man, woah. building a stronger suggestion? that was your original purpose? talk about conniving. if building a stronger suggestion was your purpose in entering this thread, how could you have possibly gotten so off track? and from the very beginning, at that. your hypocrisy is simply astounding.

"I don't see why you're still going on about my supposed misuse of "ignorant"."

dictionary definitions are often very cut and dry, offering no context or flavor of meaning. to call someone stupid is to say they are of low intelligence. to call someone a moron is calling them stupid. but someone being stupid and someone being a moron can be 2 vastly different things, depending on the usage of stupid. moron is most often used to berate someone by saying that they are completely incapable of intelligent thought or discussion on a matter. there is an implication that the subject being called a moron has some form of understanding of the topic, but for whatever reason has decided to forsake that knowledge. this can greatly contrast to stupid, where someone might simply be unable to comprehend a subject. a 12 year old kid is stupid compared to a theoretical physicist. but that kid is not a moron.

ignorant heavily implies belligerence or a willful lack of understanding. someone who is ignorant doesn't simply lack knowledge, they have purposely chosen to lack that knowledge, or are woefully unwilling to attain it. again, there is certainly an aspect of being unaware, but being unaware does not necessarily result in ignorance. I am not surprised I had go through that, however. your past posts were very indicative of your ignorance (unwillingness to understand the real conveyed meaning if the word ignorant). see? that is how you use the word. squares and rectangles, my dear lad or lass.

edit to address serell:

"You always capitalize the first letter in a sentence.
I mean sometimes people make mistakes, but.... derp ._.
Kind of hard to take you seriously when you have not wrote one sentence that started with a capitalized letter."

"Please don't reward us with birthday candles and party blowouts."

oops, there goes your argument. not that it was an argument to begin with. my english is fully understandable. and if I were writing anything of import, I assure you that I have the ability to use the shift key. it is unnecessary on the internet.

and a little p.s.
it should be "written". "you have not written one sentence". :/

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 13:21

#16

Serell

Oops

Ok, I have made a mistake.
It should have been "written".
At least I try my best, unlike you.
If you want to be respected on the forums, good English helps a lot.
People with poor English sound like under-aged players that should not be playing the game, and thus are not taken seriously.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 13:23

#17

The-Ark

We are just wasting our time

We are just wasting our time here... Lets just go "be morons" somewhere else and leave this wonderful thread to die. I'm pretty sure the OP doesn't even care about the suggestion he/she made anymore.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 13:25

#18

Softhead

YEP!

It's entierly the OP's fault.

Has such a rude tone.

BTW, if someone remembers this thread and sees a new one made by you, you have now get a not very good first impression.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 13:33

#19

Misogyny

"People with poor English

"People with poor English sound like under-aged players that should not be playing the game, and thus are not taken seriously."

please go find quotations of my poor english. not poor punctuation (the lack of capitals), but poor english. where is my syntax so utterly abominable that it would convey the feeling of being an "under-aged player"?

"At least I try my best, unlike you."

people who make unfounded assumptions sound like they have no education in english and argumentation and are thus not taken seriously.

"I'm pretty sure the OP doesn't even care about the suggestion he/she made anymore."

on the contrary, I very much do. I think it is atrocious that the developers overlooked including gun-oriented accessories. I do not, however, care at all about the antics that have been started since the first reply. I am quite disheartened at the inability of people to interpret reality, but I have learned over the years that one should never expect people to interpret reality. it is a skill that is quite clearly beyond most people.

"YEP!

It's entierly the OP's fault."

somehow I knew you were too incompetent to figure out which post was labeled #1.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 13:40

#20

Serell

Oh, sorry.

I meant punctuation.
Seriously, if you were to edit your OP and user proper punctuation, it would make it look a whole lot nicer.

"on the contrary, I very much do. I think it is atrocious that the developers overlooked including gun-oriented accessories"
Yes, but the thing is, this EXACT same thing has been suggested.
Instead of cluttering the forums, please use the search bar.
There is a much better thread for this, and looks much nicer with great punctuation.
Mana's first post was trying to help you, and gave you a link to the much better thread.
What you should do is contribute to that thread, and graveyard this.
We are trying to help you.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 13:50

#21

Softhead

I read it.

You acted like a total jerk to mana. He tried helping you, and you misunderstood it as a insult.

I'm not incompotent. And it's your fault.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 13:58

#22

Misogyny

"I'm not incompotent. And

"I'm not incompotent. And it's your fault."

"you have now get a not very good first impression." - oh? excuse me if I don't believe you.

"You acted like a total jerk to mana."

I was simply responding in kind. if he was trying to help me, he would have simply posted a link to the thread he wanted me to move my suggestion to and say "some of your ideas have already been suggested" in a non-combative way and not plagiarized my writing style.

"Yes, but the thing is, this EXACT same thing has been suggested."

as I have stated. find where others have suggested a sidearm accessory. one suggestion was similar to another idea (although from the crude picture provided, it didn't appear he was suggesting anything going over your shoulder).

"We are trying to help you."

see my comment about interpreting reality.

"What you should do is contribute to that thread, and graveyard this."

why? it is not against rules/tos to create threads. nowhere does it say that all accessories should be in a single thread. this has been addressed.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 14:42

#23

Damienfoxy

*Noms on popcorn* i bet

*Noms on popcorn* i bet Psychodestroyer would get a laugh from this.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 15:22

#24

Serell

"as I have stated. find where

"as I have stated. find where others have suggested a sidearm accessory."

Alright, I will.
I am almost certain this has been suggested before.
I will give the link when I have found it if you want it.

"I was simply responding in kind. if he was trying to help me, he would have simply posted a link to the thread he wanted me to move my suggestion to and say "some of your ideas have already been suggested" in a non-combative way and not plagiarized my writing style."

Mana was not attacking you.

"why? it is not against rules/tos to create threads. nowhere does it say that all accessories should be in a single thread. this has been addressed."
Yes, but its much easier that way.
That way we can save space for others, then having 10+ threads with a couple idea's.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 15:56

#25

Misogyny

"That way we can save space

"That way we can save space for others, then having 10+ threads with a couple idea's."

and for consistency, I'm sure you've gone into all the other threads and told them to condense their ideas into other existing threads, yes? oh, wait, you haven't? well then. hypocrisy and all.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 16:15

#26

Serell

...

I'm only trying to help, geez :S
No, no I haven't.
You can't condense all threads, but we could condense all accessory idea's.
Plus Alphastevo uses punctuation, which I am sure makes it easier for the developers to read.
I'm not trying to attack you, but your posts look like a mess.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 16:16

#27

Luguiru

Hurr

Do I even need to be here? No?

I will leave this on the counter on my way out.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 16:21

#28

Imperialstriker

This thread has given me a headache.

Listen OP, next time you make a post, be nice about it. And not flame everyone. Don't respond to this, I'm not coming back. Now go... idk. Die or something.

All you've done is create a ragefest, and not get anywhere with your idea. Good job, do it again, I dare you to.

Goodbye.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 16:24

#29

Misogyny

and my point is, if you are

and my point is, if you are continually arguing that I am at fault for posting a thread on accessories, yet not saying the same such things to other people who post duplicate topic threads with different ideas, you are being incredibly ridiculous and simply attacking me (whether you mean offense or not).

"Plus Alphastevo uses punctuation"

capitals, which is part of punctuation. part of the problem is that this forum doesn't register a double space, so you can't see the increased separation between sentences compared to words. there are still periods, commas, apostrophes, etc. to make it quite clear.

"You can't condense all threads, but we could condense all accessory idea's."

yes, actually, you could. quite easily. off the top of my head: gameplay improvements, user interface, gear ideas, gear changes, new content suggestions, community changes, accessories, forum suggestions. I'm fairly certain those 8 categories cover every single thread on the first page. and if I'm wrong on that, it's quite easy to add another category to include those other ideas.

"I will leave this on the counter on my way out."

do you take issue with my choice of moniker?

"Die or something."

how profound.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 16:25

#30

Psychodestroyer

@Damienfoxy

I see it, but I'm not laughing.

This seems oddly familiar...

Meh.

"oh dear lord, the stupidity. not everything said to you is about you. can you not grasp this?"

Considering we were the only two people talking on the thread at the time, Manal having ceased speech then, it WAS pretty stupid of you to think I wouldn't take it personally.

" I'm sure you've gone into all the other threads and told them to condense their ideas into other existing threads, yes? oh, wait, you haven't? well then. hypocrisy and all."

Don't you just love it when some idiot asks you a question, then answers it themselves like they saw it in the future or something?

For your information, we HAVE, and they DID. And they were infinitely more cooperative than you are.

Calls us hypocrites, then becomes a hypocrite.

If you really worded your OP 'playfully', then you would have bothered to take the time to explain to someone who took offense that it wasn't meant offensively.

Instead, you act like an '(if it's filtered in the game, it shouldn't be on the forums) as you so colorfully describe yourself and be all sarcastic back. Shows who's really mature doesn't it? (That was sarcasm btw, since you are likely to look only for the literal meaning.)

"oh noes, internet children think (correctly) that I'm an (if it's filtered in the game, it shouldn't be on the forums)."

That explains a lot. Seerusly it does.

Ok guys, show's over, don't respond at all to this guy, he clearly does not see 'being an (if it's filtered in the game, it shouldn't be on the forums)' as being a bad thing that MAY offend people.

No really guys, don't bother posting here anymore. Arguing with him is useless. He won't get it.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 18:21

#31

Damienfoxy

You're all idiots for

You're all idiots for prolonging this argument.

goodbye, peace, love, empathy.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 16:38

#32

Serell

"and my point is, if you are

"and my point is, if you are continually arguing that I am at fault for posting a thread on accessories, yet not saying the same such things to other people who post duplicate topic threads with different ideas, you are being incredibly ridiculous and simply attacking me (whether you mean offense or not)."

I usually let other people do that.

"yes, actually, you could. quite easily. off the top of my head: gameplay improvements, user interface, gear ideas, gear changes, new content suggestions, community changes, accessories, forum suggestions. I'm fairly certain those 8 categories cover every single thread on the first page. and if I'm wrong on that, it's quite easy to add another category to include those other ideas."

Alright, we could condense a lot of other things.
Sorry, I don't have the time to look at all the threads and direct everyone.
...Alright, maybe I do.
But being a regular on the forums, it can get tedious.

Geez... why are we fighting?
Why can't you simply copy-paste your thread into Alphastevo's, graveyard this, and be done with it?

EDIT : You're right, Psycho.
Goodbye, Miso.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 16:42

#33

Misogyny

"For your information, we

"For your information, we HAVE, and they DID. And they were infinitely more cooperative than you are."

for your information, I could go find plenty of threads with no such thing. and I'm sure you were infinitely more polite to those you asked and then complied. amazing how that works.

"Calls us hypocrites, then becomes a hypocrite."

oh, pray tell. how am I a hypocrite?

"If you really worded your OP 'playfully', then you would have bothered to take the time to explain to someone who took offense that it wasn't meant offensively."

/facepalm

that makes me a hypocrite? please go search the OP for any insult to anyone but 3 rings. and when you haven't found it, kindly tell me how a bit of droll speech is offensive to people who are not the subject of said post.

"Shows who's really mature doesn't it?"

oh, so I'm addressing teenagers. I had assumed so. typical, really.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 16:56

#34

Psychodestroyer

....

Your ability of not-understanding is truly impressive.

You complain someone judged your post offensive and raged back at you about it, instead of saying it nicely.

Next post, instead of explaining it wasn't meant that way nicely, you rage back.

"for your information, I could go find plenty of threads with no such thing. and I'm sure you were infinitely more polite to those you asked and then complied."

You could. Easily, for the simple reason that there were no previous threads on the same/similar idea.

"oh, so I'm addressing teenagers."

How you drew that conclusion from my statement I really don't know.

However, indeed you are. I myself am sixteen. A sixteen year old with some prominent emotional issues I might add, so for you to be raging this hard over next to nothing while I remain fairly calm is somewhat pathetic.

In any case, derailed thread is derailed.

I'll just leave this by the door.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 17:03

#35

Serell

One last coment from me, though I shouldn't...

"for your information, I could go find plenty of threads with no such thing"

Well gee, we're not super heroes ._.
Sorry we can't help everyone 24/7.

The reason why I decided to comment and maybe help was because your name looked familiar, I believe you are a friend of Rari.
Otherwise I would have just let Psycho and Schatt handle it.

Bye for realz now.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 17:19

#36

Misogyny

no, rari decided one day to

no, rari decided one day to rage at me over nothing and has since removed and ignored me.

"How you drew that conclusion from my statement I really don't know."

generally when one brings up maturity, it's a clear sign that they are not yet an adult. that, combined with mana's fixation on the word "ignorant" was pretty telling of the age group.

"so for you to be raging this hard over next to nothing while I remain fairly calm is somewhat pathetic."

rage? riiiiiiiiiiiight. as I have stated, I don't care about the OT comments. I continue arguing on the off chance that someone will realize the wisdom in some of what I'm saying (like attitude begets attitude). it also amuses me to see the responses people come up with.

some day, you'll take REAL english classes and learn how to accurately argue. and it starts with facts. fact: my op did not insult anyone but 3 rings. fact: while there was certainly playfulness that could be mistaken for arrogance, nothing I said in the OP was combative to the populace of SK. fact: mana's response was hostile. whether it was meant as an insult (which you will not convince me otherwise) or not, it was hostile. combative.

conclusion that people seem to have come to: misogyny is a complete ass and lunatic, oh dear god run away.

what actually happened: misogyny did not appreciate the attitude and demeaning nature of some puissant (if it's filtered in the game, it shouldn't be on the forums) whining that other threads with accessories existed and replied in kind.

it was quite clear to me from mana's first post that the thread had been derailed. and so I stopped caring and began to amuse myself. I still believe my OP. I will not change my personality to cater to people who have not discovered themselves yet. and I haven't been angry at anyone on the SK forums.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 17:28

#37

Thimol

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 17:48

#38

Weaker

LOL

"no, rari decided one day to rage at me"

Gee, I wonder why? I don't see how ANYONE could POSSIBLY get angry with YOU.

"wisdom in some of what I'm saying"

Wiseguy=/=Wise Guy.

"some day, you'll take REAL english classes"

Implies one of:
-Knows people in real life and the quality of their english classes.
-Claims to know more than other people he doesn't yet know.
-Is a total prick regardless.

" and it starts with facts"

Fact: You cannot accept facts other than the ones you already deem 'true'.

"fact: mana's response was hostile."

Fact: So was yours, and all other posts to anyone else.

"conclusion that people seem to have come to: misogyny is a complete (if it's filtered in the game, it shouldn't be on the forums) and lunatic, oh dear god run away.

Conclusion people came to: Misogyny is an (if it's filtered in the game, it shouldn't be on the forums).

What really happened: Misogyny admitted it.

"I haven't been angry at anyone on the SK forums."

Your words say otherwise.

This is hilarious. The OP is clearly (if it's filtered in the game, it shouldn't be on the forums), regardless of self-proclaimed intelligence, insisting he is wise and all that jazz. No wonder Psycho brought up the the murder case, it's relevance is complete; You think what you're doing is right, everyone is facepalming at your stick-in-the-mud-ness.

They see me lol'in, they hatin'...

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 18:11

#39

Misogyny

"Implies one of: -Knows

"Implies one of:
-Knows people in real life and the quality of their english classes.
-Claims to know more than other people he doesn't yet know.
-Is a total prick regardless."

/facepalm.

no, it implies that english classes for someone who is only 16 are not adequate. having gone to one of the better rated high schools in the US, I assure you I know what high school english classes entail. they are almost useless.

"Your words say otherwise."

words are just that. words. I could type like a 10 year old. it would have no bearing on my actual age. the words I have chosen in this thread might make it seem like I am angry. I am not. crazy how that works.

"Fact: So was yours, and all other posts to anyone else."

yes. my responses after post #1 were hostile. I didn't realize I stated otherwise. but I am not surprised you didn't realize the point.

"Fact: You cannot accept facts other than the ones you already deem 'true'."

yay assumptions! it's too bad that you're largely incorrect. I have conceded many points to be true throughout the thread.

@ your post as a whole:

perhaps if you had learned how to think without the internet telling you how, you wouldn't be quite so depressing. one day, when your balls drop and you grow up, you'll realize how much of an ignorant idiot you were as a teenager. it happens to everyone. you'll get there one day.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 18:19

#40

Damienfoxy

Arguing on the internet is

Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics...

Even if you win, you're still (if it's filtered in the game, it shouldn't be on the forums).

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 18:25

#41

Imperialstriker

Dude, lets not just insult the special olympics... that's not very kind.

And guys, consider just letting this thread collect dust instead of giving it attention?

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 18:50

#42

Misogyny

aw, you came back.

aw, you came back. <3

"Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics...

Even if you win, you're still (if it's filtered in the game, it shouldn't be on the forums)."

I'm not sure if that was even funny the first time I heard it.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 18:56

#43

Imperialstriker

I'm a little tired of being mean to people.

Still think your tone to others could use a little work. Would help your idea in the long run.

But whatever, you make your choice.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 19:01

#44

Nechrome

... I was going to post some

...

I was going to post some thoughts about the idea...

And then I see the flames...

This is almost as bad as Pow*6's threads (okay, maybe not that bad.). So much flames (anyone got some marshmellows? :D)

Maybe I should stay out of the Suggestions Forums...

Gah, I'll just post what I was gonna post anyway.

So...

You have a point. They've got parrying blades and bomb bandoliers, so they should have something for guns. However, on the Wiki it states that the gun bullets are apparently solidified energy drawn in from the air to form bullets of something onlong those lines. So bullet stuff wouldn't really fit.

._.

Although that lead to the question of why the Autogun line drops shell even though the bullets don't need them. :/

Just my two cents.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 19:39

#45

Draycos

,XZMCNLSKDJZnfcv.

There's so much flaming going on here this could pass as a forumized Firestorm Citadel. D:

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 20:23

#46

Misogyny

"Still think your tone to

"Still think your tone to others could use a little work."

I am fully capable of having an amiable tone.

"However, on the Wiki it states that the gun bullets are apparently solidified energy drawn in from the air to form bullets of something onlong those lines. So bullet stuff wouldn't really fit."

was unaware. however, several guns do have bullet casings (like the autogun you mentioned), so it is entirely possible that the energy would/could be drawn into the shell and used as a firing mechanism to propel the shell. in which case, the shells, while not bullets as we would think of, would be bullets. then again, I store my swords, guns and bombs magically in a pocket at my side and pull them out when needed. I don't think it's much of a stretch to just allow for a bullet aura. ;)

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 20:56

#47

Nechrome

True. :P

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 22:51

#48

Luguiru

Seerus time

I came back for the science. Nothing more. I was not bribed or smacked with ducks. Why are there feathers on me? I was headbutting ostriches.

For the sake of removing bias from this for(u)mula I have not thoroughly read the majority of this thread. Science does not pick its buddies and slap everyone else. Science slaps everyone equally then takes them all out for drinks.

Yes, costumes in energy packs are often included to tempt users to purchase for the cosmetics rather than the actual product; the energy is often bartered away so the user may enjoy their frivolities. As repeated in this thread already accessories are not a new idea around here, but having an original idea is.

Bandoliers of bombs and parrying sword accessories do exist while gunners are given nothing relatively similar to their weapon. The bandolier is similar to grenade sashes used by grenadiers to store multiple projectiles without worrying about dropping the pack, losing the pack, or having it stolen; it is tied around their torso. Parrying swords were often fairly short and light swords, somewhat between the size of a dagger and an average one handed sword, used when their primary weapon is incapacitated or removed from combat. What would gunslingers have? Some of us know of a certain sandwich loving user of firearms with a part of their design adorned with a belt of bullets. This belt is most often holding ammunition for a machine gun or any firearm which can be fed an ammo belt to reload. Having a sidearm gun accessory is different than a small sword or miniature Blast bomb belt. "Why?" Pistol sidearms were used when the primary firearm is, as the parrying blade does, is incapacitated or removed from combat. A small sword is one thing, but having another gun is completely different. Guns are more complex than swords. Bombs are fairly straightforward in this sense; drop and pop. Having a hidden firearm means being prepared for your distance firearm proving useless or too close to fire without affecting the user. With swords and bombs this is not a problem because both weapons generally require close proximity with the target anyway, but guns have the choice to stay distant while firing or rolling around up close and personal.

Ammunition related accessories? Art. A picture of a couple bullets does not count. An ammunition aura would be either too silly, too complex, or simply too cliche. Auras do not work that way. A belt of ammunition is different. We already have a belt for three bombs. The problem with a belt of bullets is the type of bullet used for adornment, seeing as bullets are created by energy of the planet as indicated by lore. Check the link from the first response, Stevo makes decent accessory models.

Keep "I want this" and "what if we had this" as far apart as possible. "I want this" means personal whims, which are rejected by the community. No one cares if you want amphibious gorillas. "What if we had this" proposes ideas, original ones most likely to be supported, and initiate several branches of ideas for a while. "Here are ideas, I checked the search and no one else has this or this idea came from this old post I will link here, here are my ideas on how it would work into the game without breaking anything or being vague on detail, here are details on how everything works and how itlooks"; this gets things done. Unfortunately only a few users are willing/capable of this.

Tue, 05/22/2012 - 03:50

#49

Damienfoxy

Just give them a cop style

Just give them a cop style vest holster and be done with it. They already have gun based armors and helms, much of which have more detail, or even show an extral barrel on the sleeve.

There could be three types of ammo belts... Energy clips, bullets and elemental colored clips.

Thank me later, because this could make OOO alot of money if they did such a silly thing.

I also think people would like an iron man style suit with their blitz needle mounting on the shoulder, and being all shiny and junk.

Yeah... Iron man rules.

Tue, 05/22/2012 - 06:42

#50

Hyperion

Friendly neighborhood GM

Friendly neighborhood GM would like to remind you all that if something is filtered in the game, it should not be used on the forums (if you're quoting, remove it), and that personal attacks are not okay.

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