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Thu, 08/09/2012 - 05:15
#51
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Raspberry
Awe missed the window of opportunity

I'm one of those returning betas that just got back or tried to get back into Spiral Knights yesterday (Wednesday) morning. Been gone for over a year (got very ill). My friend TheBadger was watching some YouTube, and I heard familiar Harry Mack music coming from his computer. The music made me wax nostalgic about our Spiral Knights days and spelunking the depths of the arcade with TheBadger and getting him killed in spectacular ways for our contest promos!

I also saw Nick's announcement as I was trying to log in. My thought was, "go go go, take advantage of the crystal bomb windfall!" But, alas, that was not happening because I had an esoteric Java/Windows/ATI conflict.

I'm not mad because I couldn't take advantage of the crystal bomb windfall or all the promos I missed for being absent. I still have stuff to trade or sell to get new stuff and I can buy CE from OOO if I should run out of it.

For those that did get a chance to take advantage of the windfall, more power to ya! I remember guild leaders like Njthug not only buying lots of CE in the beginning to rage craft for the best gear, but also for giving back to his guild members by supporting guild contests. Njthug also supported fun community contests like my guild did whenever we had extra stuff and CE to give back to the community. Of course, we could all adopt a more miserly approach and not spend so much on SK, not bother investing time and resources rage crafting for the best gear, not bother holding guild competitions or community contests to make this game even more fun. The game would become boring for many of us who are allergic to mediocrity.

Raspberry,
Guild Leader of the Obsidian Order

Thu, 08/09/2012 - 06:36
#52
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Ranzoh
That's what we're all trying

That's what we're all trying to do. It's best that we all don't adopt the miserly approach and just ragecraft, but people like you don't encourage people to profit from things like this or to give more time to those that need to act in time to take advantage of this. You want us to just play only this game forever? Cmon, get real.

And I'm all for competition, I rather quite like games like Street Fighter where unpredictability can be key. I quite like Double Dragon 3 as well, being notorious for being harder for some reason given the same time with practice, even though you are playing a somewhat deterministic game. But anyway, how is the rich getting richer gear and stuff being competitive or true skill? Let alone misleading people into the opposite direction like saying there is only 1 ticket aware per bomb LEVEL, regardless of how many there is. Or that time when the other team in blast network said to do nothing so both of us can earn a rare bombhead, instead the other team attacked in the last minute to win the mask.

And I can't believe people are throwing around the word rage craft more and windfall profits right after the update, besides just one speculator in the first page of the admin topic and act or people refrain from speaking up that they lost out on their chance even when they were there before the update took place cause they don't want to look stupid or confused.

Thu, 08/09/2012 - 08:43
#53
Canine-Vladmir's picture
Canine-Vladmir
Did you wonder?

Did you ever wonder if OOO is just good at making video games? Just video games?

Thu, 08/09/2012 - 09:39
#54
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Njthug
@Raspberry

Welcome back for a second I thought I was seeing a ghost.

Thu, 08/09/2012 - 11:41
#55
Dorael's picture
Dorael
@Ranzoh

You're a good example of what's wrong with many people: they don't stop to ask why or otherwise try to understand something before attacking it.

Ever wonder why economists don't use the term "survival of the fittest" to describe an economic model they support? It's not a positive term for any society that has any kind of humanitarian values. Instead pro-capitalists will feed you propaganda about things like trickle down theory or that hard work is rewarded and people who are on the top deserve to be there. No one sane would use that term in something they support. Now do you know why I used it to describe Capitalism? I mentioned in another thread my stance on the subject. Hell, I even mentioned it earlier in this very thread. I'll repeat, because expecting people to do extra work like clicking on links is sometimes too much.

Capitalism is flawed as a system that has lives dependent on it because it puts too much emphasis on profit. More specifically, it allows for individuals (through private ownership) to gain 90+% of the wealth in the system and do whatever the hell they want with it, potentially screwing over everyone else. In most capitalistic systems these days there are certain checks in place to stop such things but they're not enough, and a true capitalistic system is flawed in theory if let to actually run its course.

But oh wait, I said all that already. Oh wait, so did you. Maybe if you understood why I was saying what I was saying, you'd have gotten that. It is especially funny because you argued some points for me and supported my stance, and then called me a moron because you didn't understand that you were actually agreeing with what I said. Good job.

So to get back on point: while I do not favor capitalism as a system where lives, well being, houses, and other things rely on it, I quite enjoy the system in a game. I like the competitive nature of capitalism. I like trying to figure out what I need to do to maximize profit and compete against others to try to do so. I like trying to win, to be top of the x%, and reap the rewards when I do. Seizing opportunities when they present themselves. I also like poking people with swords and shooting puppies. In a game.

Finally, to answer your question about why people didn't answer you about the ragecrafting UV tickets before the patch: did you ever once stop to consider that maybe it's because no one actually knew? Like seriously, how was anyone supposed to get "insider information" about this? People take a risk and they profited. To a lot of people it was probably a very small risk as they were likely sure of it, but no one knew for absolute certainty. I imagine most people who did it probably think they should have done it more if they had known for a fact and were just worried about losing more money if they were wrong.

Edit: Oh, I forgot to comment about "perfect information." The entire point is that you don't know everything. If you knew everything, then there is no risk involved. That's the short version, hopefully it's enough without having to go into why risk is a good thing.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 08:44
#56
Cornu's picture
Cornu
inb4 Communist is used as an

inb4 Communist is used as an insult

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:19
#57
Raspberry's picture
Raspberry
More power to the savvy

I'll say it again. More power to the people who were smart enough to take advantage of an opportunity as it presented itself. Some people see risk where other people see opportunity. It wasn't stealing, greed or cheating. Blame OOO for gifting the people who raged crafted or simply had many of the obsolete bombs on hand from previous rage crafting. Better yet, BLAME IT ON BOSWICK!

Life is not fair. Throwing stones at lottery winners out of spite doesn't help make anyone luckier and just makes the stone throwers look like thugs. You'll get lucky one day and will have to deal with stone throwers yourself. That's the skinny on getting real.

I'm not rich or have the most max's in game. In fact my gear is somewhat humble. I spend more time adding heat to gear, testing, crafting for UVs, and selling the good stuff to people who are more into elite game play. Then TheBadger and I devise devilish events from my profits from time to time to build a more cheerful community. Even the GMs and Nick has been known to help or participate in our shenanigans.

Hugs, have fun and peace out!

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