True that.

Angry opinions are the least readable opinions, in my opinion.

I'll be glad to explain again in TL;DR Njthug:

ToS : "Spamming is not acceptable in any form" ; EoS : Spamming forums.
if
OOO forgives EoS then
OOO breaks its ToS;
bias;
endif

I am not angry or anything. But the ToS are a contract; I sometimes disrespected it and I payed the fair price, so did hundreds of other players. EoS shall NOT be exempt from punishment. You could simply have all those threads graveyarded and humbly apologize for the disturbance, rather than discussing the indiscussable and disturbing even more the forums "peace".

The ToS are a contract that can be amended at any time and can be interpreted many ways. They should NOT be amended to excuse our behavior, however, they do not take into account every possible scenario. What we've done doesn't fit its definitions 100%, it needs some clarifying.

Basically, we don't have to admit you're right until a moderator says we violated the ToS.

And this, ladies and gents, is what happens when the mods are asleep. At least we're not posting ponies.

Only got a few kids upset from the looks of it, but then again every topic on the forum is an argument, so didn't do much damage we just gave you guys some love. Lol....respecting other users that is funny I don't think you read the forums.

Just took the most wonderful bathdrowning and shower of my life. Came back to check on the forums and booha not sure what's right or sideways.

If I actually offended ANYONE with my inhumanity, I sincerely apologize. I moved my thread to GC a while back, but I was still a bit buzzed so I'll probably throw it in graveyard later unless a moderator does it first.

@Thoran I get what you're saying, man. But from my point of view, ONE guy online at the time had his thread bumped down some. Then a few choice people just kind of came out of no where and started bashing for seemingly no reason beyond us filling the front page and making their life more difficult because they had to load page 2 to find their threads. Which I'm sure they do every morning. Threads get bumped down. It happens. Yes, all of those threads that replaced the first page were ours, yes we broke a pattern that has been repeated continuously for over a year. Thinking on it, it may have been bad timing, and for that I'm only a tad sorry. I just don't have much sympathy for people whining about something that they can pay or not pay for by their own choice, or a bomb that people have known for quite some time was going to change, even if it WAS a drastic change.

As for the UV tickets, Nj's reward was an absurd amount, yes. There are others who profited just as much, yes. Hell, if I was online at the time I would have done the same, like with the Haze Bomb craze last year. I STILL have haze bombs. I may be a bit biased since I hang out with these guys, but I honestly don't give an F that they profited from this. Money kind of stays with money in this game. They are rich, they will always be rich, and people will ALWAYS be finding new ways to get rich. I know I'm a dick for saying that, but I'm saying it.

Also: These "love" threads were actually meant mostly for OOO. I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it already or not. For the few people who joined in with us, thanks! It was fun from what little I can actually remember.

I'm certainly not representing EoS here (nor with my earlier drunken posts) even though I share some opinions of other members concerning this.

Edit: Just want to add that I hope this whole ride winds down nice and calmly. Lord knows this place doesn't need more drama

What is a EoS and why should I respect it ?
A guild of 12-year-olds ?

In my year-ish time in SK, I never really knew what EoS was. Now I know I shouldn't even consider joining them.

To a minor extent I'm siding with Ters on this one. I'm not sure if it's really punishable, all that spam, but it's certainly annoying to sift through. The intent was to spam, so regardless if the posts were technically spam or not, action might still be taken. To be fair, though, that would also require the mods to take care of all of the other threads with similar structure- same ideas and little individual input, like the large amount of rage threads and minimal-thought suggestions.

How frustrating.

What a lovely time for me to join Spiral Knights and its forums. *sarcasm*

We don't hate you. We don't hate people, it's not in our character.

Maybe this isn't the way that you would go about showing love for OOO and that's fine. Honestly, there is no mess to clean up. Pretty much all the Love threads are falling off the front pages naturally.

Again, Njthug wasn't drunk.

I don't hate you Tersa or even dislike you, I just wish you could take levity to heart. I didn't take a venomous or aggressive tone with you the entire time. But I do think you might have felt slighted about your thread which was only a coincidental victim and was not intentionally targeted by a small bit of random posting. There are no diabolical masterminds in our guild, or if there are they are incredibly competent.

But good idea, we'll get started on that monolithic thread or just revive the old one if it hasn't been necro too long.

As for the mess, the majority of it is on the second page. And for a good portion of the others they were already moved to GC by the posters. But if you know that we're being hypocritical by being satirical that means you must at least recognize how it's hypocritical to denounce us for the same thing so many of those other people did too right? That those people that were doing it before should be in just as much trouble and hadn't despite the hate spam and the multitude of threads about the exact same thing or off posting in GD (fashion threads, bug reports, etc). Which occurs every day.

In for a penny and in for a pound.

You have a good day though sir.

Again, what clean up?

Why delete them, just let them get buried, most of them are already. Even if they did go to the trouble of deleting/locking/graveyarding them it would take all of what? Ten minutes? What a travesty...

I'm sorry for the double post.

Because you shouldn't be allowed to do this just because "they'll get buried". Spamming is spamming, and you shouldn't be looked over because your guild sent OOO some stuff. :)

Krab, people in our guild already said we were ready for the consequences but people have done far worse and stayed around far longer than they should have. When we get our warnings which will happen I will still stand by my decision for what happened. Last I checked the people who were the most upset were the same people who complain constantly and were watching this go down might see a little of their own hypocrisy. But realize then that all the other people who were posting spam threads about the same exact thing should receive warnings as well.

And I think you're playing a bit of the boy who cried wolf saying that this kind of thing was so incredibly reprehensible that it shattered your life.

:I

Forum moderators don't directly affect gameplay changes. I think you need to reassess your statement because you're confusing development team with forum moderation...

So that gives you the green light to bother them?

I also don't get this act you guys are doing. No regrets, saluting and taking your punishments, blah blah blah. Am I supposed to salute you? I can't fathom this ever sounding like a good idea, unless the people involved think that the so-called 'haters' are ready to storm their office with torches and pitchforks.

You know, I still don't see the point why people are all worked up over this...

I mean, the front pages were spammed about how much people hated the economy and the RSS changes, and some people even joined into those threads too. (Not sure if anyone in this thread did however, and I'm not saying that you/he/she/whatever did) How come all the hate when suddenly the topic changes?

This is all crae crae.

Tersa gets a brofist from me. I'm done with the thread as well, krab for all it's worth it was interesting rhetoric but you win the internet fight due to apathy. I'll help bring the other posts back to the forefront as well.

Yeah, we all went to sleep. Give us at least a day to come back. It's Monday, not the weekend anymore.

It doesn't really look that bad to me. It seems we created about twice as many posts in backlash, though. That we may have to take responsibility for. I love how no one has changed at all and is still deadset in their opinions. And Tera, we found your picture pretty funny. By the way, who has gotten banned from the forums? I can only think of Magnus (or was it Chris? I can't tell them apart because I never knew them). Just asking.

I'm sorry, forums. We disregarded your feelings, as your masters have kindly told us. Repeatedly. Before any official response has come. We should take our punishment from these bash threads just as much as OOO has taken its punishment for all the threads bashing it.

Well. I honestly thought this would have lasting effects for days with continual bumping of the spamthreads and whatnot.

Never mind, EoS isn't all that bad. Sorry for my own little outburst.