Wouldn't that mean fashion related threads in general discussion aren't supposed to be in Treasure vault?

Or starting a thread for a bomb petition in general discussion and not suggestions?

Or how about complaining about the number of cash promos which drive down the price of ce for most players and then putting that in general discussion and not in suggestions again?

How about starting a stun bug thread and putting it again in general discussion and not in bug reports?

Or about players starting protests and petitions on general forums for the sole purpose of slamming the game they play FOR FREE. And not posting changes that can be implemented in suggestions.

Yeah, you're right. This is crazy that something insane had to be done so you people realize how inane and utterly crazy general discussion was as a catchall for every kind of thread that had no right to be here. Crazy.

Its not crazy Rep its crae crae

Btw What she order?

I wish there was a rule against minimodding, like the rule against impersonating a GM. I understand that you no liek all the love threads, but I find backseat moderating to be just as annoying and counterproductive. One person's interpretation of the ToS might be very, very different from an actual moderator's interpretation of them, and speculating on them openly might be a misdirection to other players who haven't actually read them in their entirety.

Tl;dr: The ToS might not mean what we think it means. We ain't no moderators, yessir.

@Providence

Yeah. ToS basically is there for the devs to block out anything that might be "bad" for the community.

REally its kinda like a waiver as you enter the game. You abide by the terms that they can do basically anything, and in return you get to play the game (and post on the forums, in this case)

@Xylka-MkII

That's basically it in a nutshell. The ToS gives OOO a lot more discretion than people think; they can use it to nurture a community THEY think is good for the game, it doesn't mean they are legally obligated to autoban anything that's "spam." Note that they can basically define spam as anything they want in that ToS, which they can amend at any time.

OOO can nudge the community to become whatever they want because it's THEIR forums and THEIR game. It's kinda fun to see what they'll do with it.

I have no regrets.

This was not planned at all...We never plan anything....(Example Eos: It was never planned to create a guild I asked it happened).....Example: Cobalt I never planned to have Cobalt in Eos he beat me with a rake in my no-no parts it happened.... Example: I never wanted girls in Eos then we let Provi in and now we have 10+ girls in Eos.... Example: Eury and I dating we never planned for it we fell in love....

Regardless ---- this wasn't planned we got bored told each other we loved each other and that why we play Sk.....We didn't take matters in our own hands...The difference is we had 10+ posters from 1 guild post similar like topics....instead of having 10+ random kids post similar like rage topics. Only difference here is we are all in the same guild.

"Yes only Eury would know....wait aren't I Eury...."

I would hurt you if I were her for even suggesting a degradation so low.

Virtue, I am not mad and I understand your point of view clearly. But a light needed to be shed on the situation at hand. If I have to pay the piper then it was worth it. I can't FORCE anyone to do anything, nothing I did was ultimately coercive beyond pointing things out in a satirical fashion.

It just needs to be seen, and if it takes something shocking to do it just once then it is worth the effort. My opinion is no more important than the next man or woman but you must admit that the state of affairs for the forums in this particular topic was woefully negative. And now that it's been seen as such and the people who perpetrate that can see it from another perspective it's a good thing. Hopefully it means that things will be less of a whine-a-thon and the people who post on these threads can show at least a scrap of appreciation for the hard work these people put in for us.

Thanks for a good post though, much appreciated to see your side of things.

But you should know for a fact that this having lasted one day that it will have absolutely no impact in the long term. That's just sadly the truth.

"Lol aww its okay your way too young on the forums to understand that joke"

What is a joke

And yes my active forum age is rather small as I had no interest before

Eh maybe two hours. People are getting totes sleepytowns all up ins our Mumble server, and then they won't pick it up again in the morning. This thing will last 6 hours max, I'm guessing. We're not known for our lengthy attention spans.

Take care Virtuewis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0ximxe4XtU

There's also a fair bit of difference between one thread and a dozen. Njthug has done the equivalent of summoning a raid here when considering signal-to-noise.

I'd also like to point out that positive noise is still noise, and this is rather clearly coordinated. If it wasn't, as Njthug is trying to convince us, you'd think he'd have the foresight to stop it if he gave a damn about the workload on the forum staff. Nope. Now they got this crap to deal with on top of the rage.

Heck, at least the rage is coherent. Most of this is just in-joke dribble, not to mention it could all be contained to one thread. Which is a pity. Some actual positive reflection would do *some* good to balance things out. That doesn't lessen the bad OOO has done, but still.

I'm pretty sure a good couple of people commenting on threads on page 2 will rectify this and will require a minimal of moderator input.

I can't imagine it'd be that difficult to actually accomplish. But it's nice to see that even in all of that you can see that it was approaching a terminal point in naysaying. There are a multitude of other players that DID start negative threads and they've turned around asking for a more positive form of constructive criticism and use of the suggestion forums WHICH NEED TO BE USED, PLEASE DEAR GOD USE THEM PEOPLE.

Also, NJ can't coordinate anything. He's a Guildmaster, but he's like a kid who didn't take his adderall. If you believe he's some kind of mastermind then I have a flying unicorn to sell you.

Saranghaaaeeee. That was affection, not my undying love which you have. :* Smoochies.

Sorry for the double post, but... EDIT: well it ended up not being a double post, but...

"I'd also like to point out that positive noise is still noise, and this is rather clearly coordinated. If it wasn't, as Njthug is trying to convince us, you'd think he'd have the foresight to stop it if he gave a damn about the workload on the forum staff."

NOPE.
Nope.
Echo of Silence is a hive mind collective. Nothing is coordinated, it just happens because we're basically a gestalt intelligence. And Njthug does not have the foresight to do anything. His mind doesn't move forward through time like everyone else's, it moves sideways.

Do you know how memes spread? It's a packet of cultural information that people latch on to and replicate to show common membership in a community; it's a spontaneous inside joke. Coordinated or forced memes usually aren't funny and don't last long. Note that some people who were not EoS also picked up this "meme."

Also, I seriously doubt that this will need "cleaning up" in any serious sense. The ONLY reason these threads are staying up as long as they are is because this is a particularly dead time for the forums. When all the usual suspects log on tomorrow they'll push all these down with their own threads.

This'll be over in a few hours when the guild goes to sleep, people will mention how weird/lame/stupid/awesome/spammy it was for a few days and then forget about it. It ain't no thang.

It's also the principle of the thing. Taking responsibility. But I guess you all wouldn't care about anything about that.

Whatever. I don't care anymore.

We'll take responsibility by taking our warnings/bans like champs.

But again, this whole love thread thing is not doing the irreparable damage to the forums that you seem to think it is. It's an aberration, but one that is relatively harmless.

Why does this whole thing bother you so much? Sorry for the aggravation, but you seem to be taking this way too seriously.

It's a discussion forum for a video game. Extrapolating any ethical implications of our actions is a bit disingenuous since this is an extremely low-stakes matter--you're giving it way more importance than it deserves, therefore feeding the event itself. We probably would have stopped it sooner if there weren't any rage threads about it. Classic Streisand Effect.

Nobody's gonna die over this fer cryin' out loud.

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I do think you care =0 and it makes me all warm inside <69.

@Njthug
I don't care about the spam. I do care about maybe helping you guys be more upstanding than you are. You're a long-time guild, yes? It's kind of disappointing to see you all just crap everywhere. I'd think you'd want people to look up to you somewhat. Guess not.

Still, I try to help. And yet, I get ignored. Oh well.

Maybe a better way to put is is "I don't care about the situation, but what it represents." Your actions speak for you. Even the seemingly inconsequential ones. And this whole thing does not speak positively of you guys.

@Providence
Eh, screw dignity. You guys can. I only have one thing to say. Character is what you are in the dark.

Spambomb the forums. We all have a laugh over it. Then you guys help clean up.

Spambomb the forums. You laugh over it, then leave it for us to clean up.

So, which one is less dickish? I know if a friend pranked me with the old bucket-on-the-door gag or something that makes a mess and they didn't help me clean up, they'd get vengeance brought on their head. It's also the difference between that guy who pranks everyone, and that d-bag that torments everyone.

And once more, you're basically accepting just the consequences. I point back to this post. Wouldn't the more upstanding thing be to clean up after yourself, especially since you have absolutely nothing to lose? (Though at this point, I bet most of the posters have logged off or something)

That's all I'm getting at really. But since you'd rather refuse that, it's ok, I guess. Just a pity that I have to think less of EoS now. And they were pretty cool, what with that cake thing.

I'm pretty sure I'm out of things to say concerning this thing. I doubt there's anything you could bring up to make me respond. Hooray! I'm free!