@ duke most times they will stay the same you just won't be able to add more members and if someone leaves you still won't be able to add more until u get under 100.

I'm actually kind of under the assumption that an expanded roster capacity falls under the "assets" that are preserved when an upkeep payment is missed, but I can't say for sure.

I guess if the roster limit does remain higher than 100, a guild could enlist more members to help pay for the overdue upkeep, for better or for worse. >_>

Oh stfu Drupal

Just have to say, this update sounds soooooooo awesome! I can't wait! OOO always delivers in the end.

If you edit the post, the time changes.

Just to make sure. Only a little, if any, of this stuff is gonna cost CE, right? The prices are through the roof as it is.

When will this be on the testing server to test it?

It sounds like the rooms and rent will cost crowns, but it wouldn't surprise me if other aspects, like furnishings, will have an associated energy cost. This update seems to describe features very much in development, so some details will probably change before launch: in this thread, Nick has done a very good job of answering questions where possible while still keeping OOO's options open with phrases like "there will likely be", "We are exploring multiple avenues", "or something", etc.

...Still exciting, of course, but I won't yet pin all my hopes on every aspect of a giant and wide-ranging feature being 100% CE-neutral. But overall, this sounds like a shared goal that will add a lot to the end game for players, and help the economy at the same time.

Even if there do turn out to be some items that cost energy to acquire (alas), I'd love to see a fair selection of crowns-only furniture. Who wouldn't want the giant ice towers from Heart of Ice in their guild hall? :D

Normally I'd just wait for the update and see how things play out... but...

Some things to consider:

1. Some kind of list showing who withdrew what from the treasury and storage.

The situation of some random member, even a trusted one, constantly withdrawing anything and everything placed in the storage as a source of income is just stuck in my mind. It's far too easy for someone to withdraw a lot of wealth and hide it. A simple list, even if only accessible by Guild Masters and Officers, would deter that.

2. Some way to elect a new Guild Master or demote the current ones with an active majority vote.
(Or requesting an audit by a SK Gm, someone who can view the log-in dates of the guild members and say: "Yup okay this person is gone okay you're the next senior member with adequate activity you're the Guild Master now." This presents new problems but something along those lines.)

There are many guilds were the lower ranked members are active, but the Guild Head and other high ranked knights haven't logged-on in ages. I'd truly prefer not to be forced to change guilds to access these new hall features.

3. A new complaint section for Guild abuse.

This is mostly in the unfortunate instance of my first idea or in the situation where the Guild Master abuses the treasury. For example: a guild is formed and invested into by the members, then the GM removes all the other knights from the guild and flees with the items and money.
I know these aren't going to be common situations (hopefully), but the fact that they could happen is enough impetus for them to happen. As we saw with the Crystal Bomb mass crafting for UV tickets, many people are willing to gain wealth without care for the effect on the overall system or others (which is fair, but not always positive).

sorry

I just realized you said Bear Cavalry!
Fellow guildy <3
Who are you in-game?

You misunderstood. If you miss a payment, you're left with the default base until you pay it, and then you get everything back.

I don't think he misunderstood anything... "It's worth noting though that if a guild has missed their payment for a very long period of time, all guild assets will be liquidated and the GH will revert to the base hall." - Nick's reply on page 1.

If no one in the guild pays the upkeep for a very long time (im guessing a year+), I would think that the guild would be totally dead or no one would miss it.

By the by, can you downgrade your Guild Hall, Nick?

@Pauling
"Who wouldn't want the giant ice towers from Heart of Ice in their guild hall? :D"

Me!

But since you and Saphy and others crave one I feel it's inevitable... oh well ;-P

Hang on, isn't this the second thread I've found myself agreeing with you in?

Finally a guild hall update.

"there will be a logging feature to keep track of who deposited how much into the treasury, yes? I don't want nice people depositing crowns in my Guild Treasury and having random people claim credit for it."

I agree with what Aeiterealle stated above. I don't want members to deposit crowns into the upkeep and go uncredited for their efforts. Would be nice to have a log to keep track.

We need a dead gremlin rug.

I've loved SK since I started in 2011, the things you have been doing lately have given me new hope :)

I'm so excited for this update!!! :D

Thanks so much!

I do have a question that has been mentioned a few times above such as... Will there be a log of who is accessing the guild bank? I think it would be important on who is taking and giving to hold people accountable just in case someone decides to be greedy and take everything.

I'm really excited. I know I will enjoy this update. :D

The addition of a Jukebox to Guild Halls would be really well appreciated, as this game's soundtracks are just too amazing for words to describe them.

YOU, go to the Suggestions board and post that idea there NAO!!!!!

Some questions brought up by my guild members is regarding personal rooms. Are all the rooms for a guild hall considered common space or will there be options for officer quarters, private rooms, etc.