there is nothing wrong with AA, Spamming, or anything else,
it just makes the player look like a colossal feminine cleaning supply ._.
so they can make a match fun for everyone, or just for them. of course, players with super UVs contribute to no-fun matches.

i havent seen any AA complaints for a long time
it did tick me off in 1 out of over 30 matches in the past 3 days:
a glacius user just striker boosted and killed me, but i didnt have any evidence for AA so i didnt say anything
also that promise they made in some thread about charge attacks not getting interrupted anymore is such a lie. before the charge is completed some attacks still interrupt the charge and make it last longer, which in combination with the maybe-AA-glacius-user didnt allow me to even place my bomb

ive also used AA in the past and i think its okay, but then i do deserve other peoples rage

not much to say about spam, forum users obviously dont know what that even is
and ingame i enjoy to see people complain about spam, because its usually reasonable in those situations - i still dont say anything about that topic, but its good to be informed about whats going on in parts of map, that i cant see

Just one of the many excuses to make people feel better about themselves.
I find that AA is a hindrance when circling/hitting multiple targets, but apparently people don't really take the time to notice that.

AA has its advantages and its disadvantages. Use it according to your playstyle.

I have the bad habit of using both swings with my Gran Faust, and AA definitely makes it easier to connect on the second swing, especially if I'm experiencing connection problems or something.

The only other place I find it helpful is when I run out of boost and I'm desperately trying to kill the other player before they kill me. In that case I just hammer the attack button and hope I connect. =)

Otherwise, like Bacon-Strip said, it can make you attack the wrong person in a group of players.

AA is for noobs. No discussion.
And polaris and hammer spam without AA isn't' a problem, the only problem is the AA and the noobs who use it.

PS: I'm not complaining, i can kill 95% of noobs autoaimers.

I played a few matches all with the same setup. Striker Kit, Skolver Set, Gran Faust, Final FLourish and Voltedge.
i only recorded in maps such as Graden or 3 point maps.
in AA-less matches, i would score 5k-7k
in matches with AA, my score would increase by 2k all the way to 5k more.
Auto Aim just hits anything in its path. But im still gonna use AA >:}

Gotta deal with it.

i lolled so hard @ your post vokster

i like using leviathan, FoV, or GF w/o aa cuz its fun.

I miss the old school Lockdown community and how it dealt with this issue .. "If you use AA you're nothing special, if you don't; get in line".

OOO will never take it out.

P.S. I hate Bronies.

@Ccrusader AA = Noob because AA does the work for you, you just gotta click your mouse and you basically get free kills. Simple as that.

@Raisinfist May I point out that the only way to actually kill anyone in LD is, by defenition, done by spamming? It's impossible to OHKO a Knight in LD.

You haven't wielded a 5* brandish before have you?

AA hatred was brought and is still entertained by mainstream guild members who can't get over the fact that in under some circumstances they might be bested by "nobodies"; someone in one of these guild HAD to justify their defeats. Auto aim is a game feature, it is both entirely legal and completely up to the player to use it. Being influenced by rage comments on AA is as weak as raging on AA. Your game, your character, your decisions. Not SK's big badass hotshot forum spammers. Cheers.

Mix in some punctuation and reasoning to back up your logic, and maybe then somebody could begin to take your comments seriously. But a wall of unpunctuated text followed by the naive statement "i think OOO should do what i say to balance the game" makes that entire post sound like a whiney, childish rant.

Also, AA is a necessary evil on a "competitive" component of a game such as this. Many people are playing under suboptimal conditions, including lag and latency beyond there control. While given your connection, you might not have any use of AA, but for others, who are playing in situations under different conditions, many times an opponent may appear right in front of them on their screen but be somewhere else entirely.

And lastly, all the "pro lockdown players" say that in the end they are more effective without auto aim then they would be with it. So under that reasoning, auto aimers are ultimately hurting themselves. If you are so worried about people getting unfair help then why do you wear max pierce/shock skolver and use asi UV'd toothpick + gf.

All these UV toting, auto aim bashing "pros" are nothing more than hypocrites. They pay to gain one competitive advantage and then complain about others using a mechanic to even the playing field in another area of lockdown.

for the record: i don't play lockdown. Its a redundant competition of who has the least latency. I won't say there is not a level of skill involved, but skill < latency. And its 99% skolver, toothpick, gf, polaris=redundant. If they balanced LD such that all options could be used equally, with unique strengths and weaknesses, and the need of mind games in switching gear to be competitive, with all 3 classes represented equally, i'd play despite my latent connection. However, as it stands, lucky you if you enjoy it; it does nothing for me.

Real men use Nitronome.

...If whining noob hate other player just because they use AA why don't they just turn on their AA? Seriously, if they're so skilled, player who use AA will not be an issue for them >_>...but meh, noob will always be noobs as they will even whine if you kill them with hatchet in t2 ld >.>

My views on...

Auto Target

Auto Target, as far as I'm concerned doesn't make much of a difference unless you are using the second and third strikes of the rapier line. If you got hit with Auto Target, there is a big chance you would've been hit even if the opponent didn't use Auto Target. The one advantage you get by using Auto Target is that you can swing farther, as explained in this post. Said post also contains some good arguments on the subject of Auto Target. This does make it easier to strike enemies that are further away than you would be able to hit were you not facing directly towards them, but aside from that this is the only advantage I can think of.
Also, Auto Target is best used with a good connection to the server you are playing in. The more latency you suffer from, the more inaccurate Auto Target will be as it will lock on to the enemy's position on your end of the screen, meaning that if the latency to host is big enough you will be swinging at where the target were then as opposed to where they are now. (lol Shidara, you try too hard at sounding smart..)

"Spam"

I view spam as most anti-Pulsar/AT people do.
Flourish combos are spam.
Excessive use of the Pulsar-line is spam.
Are these entirely valid combat methods? Yes.
I am not conceited and arrogant enough to believe that these methods make you a "bad player" or that "you are a noob for using them." I will however admit that they irritate me. Nothing is like running into a wall of Pulsar bullets that either knock you back or shock you in place for a full barrage to kill you or for the perpetrator to run in for the kill while you are spazzing out. Or for that last rapier line combo to hit you dead on for massive damage. But in the end it is my own fault for letting those exploding bullets hit me, or being predictable enough to be wrecked by a rapier combo. Hammers, on the other hand, I don't really mind so much. I rarely run into players who can handle them well enough to make a counter difficult to pull off.

It's funny watching the pseudo-competitive people complain about it.

Having experienced (and gotten deep into) what it's like to play competitively (aka for money prize) in another game, people should realize that (aside from external factors like latency), getting hit is their own fault, whether the opponent used auto aim or not.

Are you a swordsman striker and did you get hit when fighting? Your fault for going in when you should have retreated or used a range weapon.
Are you a gunner and did you get hit while fighting? Should have had better aim.
Are you a bomber and did you get mauled down because you couldn't fight off a striker? Should have had a sidearm.

Now, for autoaim, it's only relevant for swordsmen because, last I heard, auto aim doesn't work while you're moving (and gunners are always moving), and that aside, autoaim shots don't even take into account movement speed/lag, so you will just miss if they move sideways.

In that case, it's a matter of your own timing and prediction. If you know someone's going to swing, then why move into their range at that point? The winners in confrontations are either the ones who bait and counter (predict and stop movements before they happen) or the ones who are so good at predicting/execution that they can overwhelm their opponents. If you're losing to autoaim, stop moving stupidly.

Guess I might as well comment on this as well.

AA ~ It's there, get over it. I use it, I don't use it, and I do everything inbetween. Trying to say AA should not be in the game means that you want people without a mouse to be unable to hit anything. It's there to aid those who don't have a mouse, might not have the best of rigs, and as another post said, does help with range and accuracy in certain situations.

Am I going to stop using AA? Course not, I use it because it is there, it does help at times I need it, and it also does gimp me at times and screw me over. It's a pretty balanced feature, you hate it? Too bad.

Spam ~ As others have said, spam can be irritating, but it is a viable tactic. Guess I can go through them individually:

-Polaris(Supernova?)- I say Supernova because it behaves like Polaris, just without the chance to freeze you in place and apply Shock. Both weapons have the same property, which is slow projectile speed, increasing hit radius, and an explosion at the end. Are these weapons considered spamable? Yes. They can be spammed quite easily, but what is the purpose behind them? The same as with status bombs: Area denial. Area denial is a very valid tactic, saying it isn't is like saying the sentry gun in TF2 should be taken out of the game, because it does the same thing in most situations. Polaris/Supernova is also a very effective support weapon, and does wonders when you are backing up your allies. Don't want to run in and risk being hit with your ally? Use the weapon, which also makes it harder for your opponent to dodge. It also works well in 1v1 situations where you need a brief break from fighting up close. Shooting a few shots and then planning your next course of action also works well with the gun.

tl:dr - Spamable? Yes. Valid tactic? Also yes.

-Flourishes- Specifically the combo attack. This combines with AA, as most use the two to make effective use of their third strike. Can this be considered spam? ...yes and no. Yes, a person can use it over and over, but does it make it a good tactic? Not always, doing it over and over makes you predictable, and allows the enemy to think of ways to counter you. In addition, as a side note, you don't need AA to "snipe" people with the third hit. I've done it plenty of times without AA, not exactly easy, but doable. I think in summary, most people combine AA and flourish together, but alone, flourish doesn't really have anything about it that is too spamable. Shield canceling the first swing is also a viable tactic, and one that works a lot. It makes you fast, and able to make quick swings at the enemy. Half the time though it requires you to be accurate in timing, position, and avoidance of the enemies' own weapon.

Spamable? Yes and No. Valid Tactic. Very much so, main method of most strikers, and keeps true to the name of the line.

-Divine Avenger/Gran Faust- The spam part of this is the "overuse" of the weapon. These weapons are designed to be slow, yet hard hitters (not always the case considering UVs and armor choice) and respectfully do some of the most damage in LD in the right hands. Gran Faust seems to be the preferred one, as it is controversial that it is a tiny bit faster than Divine Avenger, as well as contains the ability to sometimes curse on it's second hit. Gran Faust is also the only weapon with the ability to curse in the game, besides vials (of which do not appear in LD, unless Rock Jellies do spawn them, but I have not seen such). AA can help the aim of this weapon, and also hurt it. AA can help it by making the weapon have more reach by correcting your aim, but at the same time can reduce your amount of damage output by moving your aim away from where you want it to be, say...a group of enemies. Keep in mind, SS line is more of a thinking weapon, it doesn't really reward spamming it. More often than not, the weapon is going to be slow, so you have to think about when you are going to swing, and when not to. I use it as a weapon to punish my enemies mistakes, often than not shying away from the second swing because of how vulnerable it leaves me. Often than not, it isn't that someone spammed a SS line sword that you got killed, it was because you got outsmarted. Or latancy, you can also blame it on lag if you want, but would that really be the truth?

tl:dr again, Spamable? I say no, due to the somewhat low reward with reckless swings. Valid Tactic? Absolutely. In the right hands, a devastating weapon.

What else...

-Status Bombs...?- Not going to talk about this one much, as I can sum it up easily. Area Denial, easily said. Shiver is often not seen, but Voltaic Tempest/Stagger Storm/Agni/Veiler are all fair game. Now, two counters against these bombs, having the status resistance, or just avoiding them. Makes LD a lot more tacticful, a person who knows how to use these bombs can deny the enemy team a point, and make their own team all the much stronger.

Spamable? Kinda have to use them over and over to get their effect sometimes. Valid Tactic? Hands down yes.

-Warhammer- Interesting one to talk about. This kinda reinforces the whole thinking aspect of the SS line, because of it's dash. In a skilled player's hands who knows how to use this weapon, then can really pull some surprising and unpredictable stunts. On the contrary, it's swings tend to be slower than GF/DA swings, thus those weapons can counter against this one as well. It's all about timing with this weapon, spamming it makes you, again, predictable.

Spamable? Less so than DA/GF. Vali- you know I am going to say yes.

In summary.

I can say that all weapons used are used because of the fact that they are all valid tactics,, the absence of them would reduce the amount of thinking one would have to do in the game of LD. I like the game when it isn't just swing swing swing and kill, and more of "what do I do to counter against what they are doing." Luck does factor into the game too, but only by a tiny fraction. Most of the game is if you did the right thing at that moment, or the wrong thing. Hands down, if you die, it is because you did something that put you in that position to receive the killing blow. There really is no single weapon so powerful that they alone dictate victory or defeat, same story with classes. Does pure striker win LD matches? Course not, while they can, a combination also can, as well as pure recons or guardians. Though that is going off topic.

In short, AA is where it is, and should stay because of the fact that it is balanced, and a valid feature of the game.

Spam is spam, which in itself is a tactic. You mad about it? Sucks to be you, thats the game. Want to prove against spam? Go ahead, find a tactic that counters against it, pat yourself on the back for it too. But in summary, spam is going to remain, can't really pull it out of the game. Either live with it, or don't, doesn't matter to the other LD players out there. We are going to enjoy our game of LD, and that is that.

...FFfffff--

I say AA noobs and i used AA only twice when i was vs noobs who though AA is good.
Noone killed me cuz the AA helped me with my latency.
I can use AA and kill everyone because the AA aim for me but i don't use it because its for noobs who can't aim for itself and I'm not gay.

Finally! I'm glad someone said this. It's so smart. I kept saying "Shut up please. I'm so god dang tired of your excuses. AUTOAIMSPAMPOLARISNOOBEGIHIEHNBJNJBKDJKHIKJWHIKWIJHEIOH!" If the features are allowed in Lockdown then they are allowed. They can use it if they like it and it's not a problem, they just get mad because they get their aholes wooped. It starts to get me mad(I'd used the other word but yeah... this is the forums). Calling someone an auto aim, Polaris, hammer noob, or whatever they say is just simply a way to say that they're a legit player because they killed you. Now, Three Rings allowed the feature of auto aim so if they allowed it they allowed it. You're getting mad for no reason and you just look like a cry baby if you complain about spam. I don't even see how there is a such thing as spam on Spiral Knights since the combos are pretty basic.
These guys make me sick.

"Noone killed me cuz the AA helped me with my latency."

What did I just read. Are you serious? Do you know what latency is?

If you're going to make an argument, try to use facts and or opinions you can support with facts.