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Wed, 11/28/2012 - 20:11
Msaad's picture
Msaad

I've had enough of this. At first when i see 2500 ce in Our mist well, Next minute it's all gone
So what i want to ask is, Why don't we Limit the usage of mist Wells every day per knight
Each knight can take 2-3 Times from the mist well Daily.
This might solve most of our problems.
My guild (Knightmare) Had the same problem, When someone Sucked out all the energy from the well And left the guild...

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 20:21
#1
Darkshaodw's picture
Darkshaodw
You're guild should be

You're guild should be responsible for the wells actions. All guilds need to do is make rules on it and you're done. No need to make an official rule for all guilds

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 20:25
#2
Aplauses's picture
Aplauses
...

@Darkshadow
sucked out all energy from the well and left the guild..

I doesn't think rules will work :o

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 20:50
#3
Msaad's picture
Msaad
^

Exactly.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 22:09
#4
Severage's picture
Severage
@Msaad:

Hello Msaad.

This is also in my thread that you, I believe, already +1'd. I forgive you for not reading it, lol.

~Sev

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 22:19
#5
Msaad's picture
Msaad
@Sev

I have to confess, I didn't read the whole of it >:)

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 05:06
#6
Gogller's picture
Gogller
yup

I agree on thi ls idea 1+ btw the guy who stole it and left is a ****

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 05:22
#7
Darkshaodw's picture
Darkshaodw
I do feel sorry for you, but

I do feel sorry for you, but you have to understand. Your guild is responsible for the actions of the mist well! If that guy was such a *****, why did you invite him? In my guild, small amounts are taken out and small ones are put back in. Sometimes, 800 ce is withdrawed for crafting, but they always repay. the richer people dont mind donating either. We help some each other by providing mist for "everyone" to use. If you have a problem with this, don't invite any ******* into the guild

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 06:03
#8
Msaad's picture
Msaad
*Sigh*

You might know that Knightmare is dead. We need to rebuild it, That guy wanted to join, So we let him.. He wasn't bad at first.. Then he showed his true form.

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 06:07
#9
Forum-Brady's picture
Forum-Brady
That guy wanted to join, So

That guy wanted to join, So we let him..

That's really not a great way to rebuild a guild, tbh...

Although I understand the issue you're discussing, and I completely agree that zero limitations is risky and can be all too easily taken advantage of, I'm with Darkshadow in principle here. My guild has had no such problems and is regularly filled with thousands of mist; it's give and take. We don't just invite any random who "wants to join", especially now with something that can be so easily taken advantage of.

If you want to rebuild your guild, go ahead and invite, but that doesn't mean you should just invite blindly. Get to know people first, do a couple runs with them, talk to them~

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 17:23
#10
Severage's picture
Severage
...

Here's the problem with the Mist Well, brady.

While I am in agreement with your sentiment, not everyone is who they seem, especially on the ever-anonymous internet.

Even people who have known you for months on a game will take what they will from you if you give them the chance. The problem with the Mist Well is like leaving $500 in front of someone in real life. You *make* thieves out of people who ordinarily wouldn't be, because they have such an easy opportunity to steal.

So yeah, I wish everyone any Guild invited would be honorable to the utmost, but not everyone is that way. Especially when you're not one of those "top guilds" who only recruits 5* people who can solo Vanaduke.

Not everyone has a conviction or a feeling of obligation to you when you've done a couple runs and talked to them a bit. Some people will still take it and run regardless.

~Sev

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 17:28
#11
Forum-Brady's picture
Forum-Brady
Hey, I'm not arguin' that at

Hey, I'm not arguin' that at all, I'm well aware that trustworthiness on the level we do it at is pretty rare, especially with opportunists who'll take advantage of guilds looking to recruit.
Right now the best advice I could really give is to just be patient and wait for the doors to be released~

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 17:31
#12
Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer

"Not everyone has a conviction or a feeling of obligation to you when you've done a couple runs and talked to them a bit."

Actually Sev, he was referring to getting to know them better to judge whether or not they can be trusted to that extent. The obligation thing doesn't really apply.

In any case, the GR can help identify people so they can be held accountable. For the most part, make sure you know who you're inviting, and make the rules clear so there's no misunderstandings.

S'what my guild does anyway. We seem to be doing fairly well now. (Although I 'joined' later. They were doing fine before me.)

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 17:35
#13
Severage's picture
Severage
@Psycho:

Actually Sev, he was referring to getting to know them better to judge whether or not they can be trusted to that extent.

Aside from their personality or bluntness in speech, I don't see how you could judge better just based on a run with someone. It's not like you're having to trust them to do a clockworks run.

Alternatively, you can just place it in a small area surrounded by bushes that can only be opened by someone who can move the furniture until further notice.

~Sev

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 17:44
#14
Forum-Brady's picture
Forum-Brady
Alternatively, you can just

Alternatively, you can just place it in a small area surrounded by bushes that can only be opened by someone who can move the furniture until further notice.

Ha! Is actually quite good~

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 19:17
#15
Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer

"Aside from their personality or bluntness in speech"

S'what I use to judge. I also watch their general attitude. It all depends really, of course you don't trust someone straight off, but through chat and general experience you can tell more about a persons character, and thus judge them better.

All in good time...

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 21:31
#16
Severage's picture
Severage
@Psycho:

Maybe, but patience could be hard to come by in a dying guild, when you're trying to recruit people ASAP to keep the guild alive. Of course, you shouldn't be rash even in this instance, but even if the Recruiter is patient, the other members of the guild may not be. It could become a difficult predicament.

@Brady:

'Twasn't my idea, but it works. =)

~Sev

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