should auto target be banmed from lockdown?

In my opinion a definite yes. Even though i currently use auto target i would readily give it up to stop those three combo flourish, sealed sword line, hammer, and branish spammers from hitting me repeatedly without having to even aim their mouse at me. I know some people will probably say, "but i get really bad lag so i need auto target" well guess what people with bad lag clicking the mouse a ton when you have a near frozen screen, amd are teleporting a bunch with your auto target spamming, with you praying to hit something wont make your caps or damage very much higher thqn it usually is.
If auto target was banned players wouldnt have to rage over the absurd range that auto target sometimes gives players. For example sometimes when i am owning people in t2 some noob is clearly way out of range and all of a sudden i go fricken flying accross the map into a wall. And im like wtf was with that range and then i spontaneously scream out, "omg major auto target range right there, i was clearly out of range but your epic god given auto target begged to differ." Then i rage and kill the noob 20 times over for revenge.
Getting rid of auto target would also definitely get rid of so many petty arguments that people constantly bicker about. Often times i hear people (i wont say any names but you know who the major auto target bickerers are) say especially in t3, "you only beat me because you used auto target" or some other excuse having to do with auto target. anyway im looking forward to reading the responses to this touchy subject, but to me we would be better off with out the auto spam target, if it is ever remov ed from lockdown i will beat the living mess out of those auto target hammer spammers for eternity!
Prays for nick to take away auto target from those hammer spammers _--gods-corpse

Geez, these kind of threads are STILL going?
There isn't a point to starting these things up, they aren't going to remove it.

Gods-corpse flourish stabs physchodestroyer R.I.P
Later adds physchodestroyer to the collection of corpses.

Should we ban Auto Target from Lockdown?
Will you bring back my original RSS?
The answer is the same for both question.

To be honest, I've never really seen the difference between auto-target and no-auto-target :P So what if that darn striker can slice you down in three hits with his Final Flourish? So what if that hammer-knight (a knight with the WRH) can come charging at you before you can even blink? If you ask me, what I like about lockdown is that people always come up with ways to attack (and kill) you efficiently, but then you'll find a way to avoid that. Then they find another way to efficiently attack and kill you, and you find a way to avoid it, etc. I've only played lockdown about 3 times, but you don't have to be Einstein to figure this one out.........
"well guess what people with bad lag clicking the mouse a ton when you have a near frozen screen, amd are teleporting a bunch with your auto target spamming, with you praying to hit something wont make your caps or damage very much higher thqn it usually is."
Clearly you have never experienced lag to my extent...............First of all, I don't spam my mouse. Secondly, spamming auto-target won't make you fly around the place...........Finally praying actually does help sometimes :P It makes you more confident in yourself XD
"Getting rid of auto target would also definitely get rid of so many petty arguments that people constantly bicker about. Often times i hear people"
Wow, people in this world argue about the most pointless things.........................
"if it is ever remov ed from lockdown i will beat the living mess out of those auto target hammer spammers for eternity!"
Why? It's not their fault.................you are acting like they killed half of your family and scared you for life. What about people who use Flourishes? People who spam the Polaris? I bet that everyone who plays lockdown on a regular basis has used one of those weapons at least once..............
Did you know that the Blitz Needle is Nick's favorite weapon? And that its not quite easy to use it in lockdown without auto-target? (The rest is self-explanatory) What if Nick uses auto-target in lockdown? :3

Actually auto-target prevents you from leading any autogun/magnus line weapon and would therefore be easier to use without. Also there is nothing that says developers are supposed to be the best at their games.

I really was hoping this was a troll thread based on the spelling of "banmed"

PLease don't get mad,but i think this is spam.
In my opinion people use auto target because there on a laptop,just can't aim right with the mouse,or just to lazy(Like me).
For sword people use the full combo attack because everyone know that the last hit is always the strongest hit for swords.
For guns,auto target is possible if your stationary but you get killed if you stay in one place too long,so gunners have to constantly move around meaning auto target doesn't work.
For bombs,well its already explanatory why auto target doesn't work.

AA makes both flourish and hammer do unnatural contortionist moves and land attacks when you clearly shouldn't.
Only the first swing should adjust to a target, not a full combo. Then it'll be ok.
If you ban AUTOAIM, you will destroy GvG, at least 3 completly teams will dissapear ( like finesse and knightmare when the heart trinkets machine appear).
Some teams will loose their "magic" and will be forced to retire, some LD "good players" will be forced as well.
We need AA to keep balance between people with hands to aim and baddies.
Without AA you will kill brandish line, hammers, GF second swing, FF 3 hit combo, and the skill of the 99% of the players.
This community NEEDS AutoAim.

Only folks who take the game too seriously will worry about Auto Target. Nerds gotta go get a life.

should polaris/volt driver/hammer........................................................................................... be banned from LD? <.<
it´s a game mechanic- deal with it!
btw: GF is weaker with AT/AA. if you use it you´ll have a disadvantage there.
GvG will be boring and way too easy, same for randoms.
LONG LIFE TO AUTO AIM.

Mawashimono: "Nerds gotta get a life"
Feller: "$0 spent. More than 20mil."
So you're saying you don't have one then? I'm confused if you're making fun of yourself or not...

@Juances:
-Only the first swing should adjust to a target, not a full combo. Then it'll be ok.
That's an interesting idea, actually. Never heard that before~
@OP:
Surprised no one's already referenced this thread with the exact same premise, but in Suggestions, which basically covers all the real answers you're likely to ever get. Most notably, that AA doesn't change the game that much for regular players, but removing it would completely deny keyboard users from every seriously playing in LD, which is a big no no.
So, have a read, ponder over it. Then send this thread to the Phantoms o:
In first, stop spam your polaris Feller. A guy who whine about the AT but who spam polaris like a noob, sorry but that's ridiculous.

Everything Corpse says reminds me of this article.
Corpse, stop your elitism and stop your whining. You will not make any friends that way.

Really Corpse...are you just trying to troll the forums at this point?
~Sev

OOO will never remove Auto-Target from Lockdown. That's because they already ADDED it to LD.
It was an addition. I will go search up the thread where they added it in..

They added it in after the preview LD, iirc.

I can imagine in OOO studios one IT guy going
"hey guys! Guys! This dude is so pro at LD and got killed by a noob with.... Auto-Target!"
*GASP*
"We have to take it away. Right now!!! Stop what you are doing and fix it!"
lolz.
When i cleaned the floor with your corpse in the tournament, i wasn't wearing my polaris.
Remove AA from LD
[No personal attacks please]
REMOVE AA FROM LD!!!!!
OOO will not remove it, because when they did it, rich kids in beta start to complain.
Rich kids rules OOO, F2P like me have no rights to ask for nothing
FREE LD FROM NEWBIES!!!!!

I vote we ban AA ban threads.
All they seem to do is make people rage at each other, which is pretty pointless since nothing ever actually changes and I'm fairly certain that OOO isn't going to remove it from the game just for the sake of PvP.
What I will vote for is an implementation of LD match options, such as temporarily banning AA usage in certain matches.

well, ld suggestions are popping up like crazy. going exactly to plan hehehehe......
I hope GMs regonize this trend, and realize something. We're tired of unbalance!

We get a token bonus (+1 token) for not using the AT, the order to get although is to have your whole team not have AT on.
You can also get a 1 token bonus (or 1 per slot total 2) if they don't use any trinkets. Same goes with the weapons.
However, the team can not quit or the bonus is void. (unless the person has connection problems then its still fair game).
It will be applied both Winning and losing teams.

Should you also get token bonuses for not using Skolver? Or staple weapons? Should you also get bonuses for not using polaris either? And VT too, since that annoys people? Or would that be exempt because people can get immunities to bombs?
And what about the keyboard users who cannot play LD without AT? Should they go for the bonus token and suffer impossible playing conditions? Or should they just play normally and feel like they're being punished?
AT does not change the game that much. Honestly, try it. It really doesn't do much to alter anything. It is, quite simply, an excuse that people use to rationalise [whatever they're QQing about this time].
Seriously, no AA with Skolver or AA with Dread Skelly. Try it the other way around, afterwards. You tell me which affects the game more.

Stop posting about lockdown you fruit tart.
And what difference does it make? Especially when you can win automatically by equipping a specific set? That being said, the most pressing issue here is balance and not some negligible mechanic that prevents some annoying "pro-gamer" who's already high up on the scoreboard to distance himself even further from the lockdown rabble as much as possible.

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Can I report for personal attacks?
I don't care who this fruitcake is, he's getting on my nerves.
Ya'll know who I'm talking about, and Firestorm be heaven before I'm directing this at the OP, although these topics from him are beginning to get irritating.

Dear @doctorspacebar im offend by your elitist comment. I dont play to win in any sense i simply play to dominate other people and humiliate them so badly that they cry with frustration in real like. Also that lame article that reminded you of me is very offensive as well. My ego is higher than the earths atmosphere and there is no limit on how big of an elitist i am so how dare you tell me to stop being what i am! Until you get to my level of greatness you cant tell me to stop being an elitist. Another thing i dont wine i simply tell the truth, hammers are for noobs and if it wasnt for other people using auto target i wouldnt use it either. And lastly if you dont like my god like elitism you dont have to post in my threads. Thank you and have a nice day. :)
_--GOD

Offended, are you? Well, take a look at what you say after you decry me for "offending" you:
"I dont play to win in any sense i simply play to dominate other people and humiliate them so badly that they cry with frustration in real like."
So your main purpose in playing is... not to have fun... not even to win... your purpose in playing is- you say this openly- to humiliate people and make them cry. Yeah, there's a word for that, I believe it's "bully"? Or is it "jerk"? Or is it something censored? Or maybe it's... well... you're making people cry, thus keeping them from having fun... and you get on someone's case for using anything that isn't the "uber pro Wolver/Flourish/Pulsar build"... I wonder what that sounds like?
Hey, wait a second. You offend people and make them cry, ON PURPOSE, and that's okay, yet I "offend" you once with one comment, and I'm such a horrible irredeemable idiot? Yeah, that's called a double standard. Here's a wikipedia article for those who don't know what this is.
"How dare you tell me to stop being what I am!"
How dare you tell me to stop being what I am, double standard. Or are you just above everyone else? And if so, how are such lowly worms able to kill you with Hammers and Blast Bombs?
"Until you get to my level of greatness..."
What greatness? Screaming at people on an online forum when they disagree with you? Most people would agree that's far from 'greatness'. You're out-voted.
"Another thing i dont wine i simply tell the truth, hammers are for noobs and if it wasnt for other people using auto target i wouldnt use it either."
Those must be some pretty impressive noobs to kill your oh-so-infallible self. Oh, wait, that's right, you're NOT infallible. And what was that about not whining? I do believe I remember you whining. Like, for example, at the beginning of your topic titled "Why do some people think hammer spamming takes skill", you said this choice bit...
I think that the hammer is by far the most annoying lockdown wep in spiral knights especially t2.
That's classified as "whining" to most people. And "tell the truth"? Not only is that there an opinion, it's one that lots of people don't share. (See also: Pulsar.)
And lastly if you dont like my god like elitism you dont have to post in my threads.
God like? More like devil like, you've got some shared traits. Ridiculous inflated pride? Check. Enjoyment at other people's expense? Check. In fact, should we just call you "devils-corpse"?
You're human like the rest of us, in which case you should consider criticism. Don't kill yourself, that's never a good idea... but at this rate I don't think we're worried about that; you appear to be so in love with yourself you couldn't imagine such a thought.

"The only thing you should feel when shooting your Polaris is the Auto Aim"
-SK Starcraft Marine

Look doctor grab a needle and stich your mouth shut, and gtfo out my my thread if you donthe t like what i have to say. As for the devils-corpse name i like it that would be a pretty cool name. If i could change my name i would probably put that one or happy-holocaust.
As for me making people cry i didnt say that you tool and lets reread what i actually said," cry out in frustration" which clearly means make people rage quit the match because they are getting an unbearable, and humiliating beating from GOD! So cupcak quit arguing with god for you are comiting a deadly sin that will lead to me beating the absolute mess out of you in lockdown.
Doctorspacebar have a good day and a marry Christmas
Happy holidays to all. :D

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Ok Gods-Corpse, trolling or not, you are annoying me.
Stop. Now.

Is my kindness killing you phycodestroyer?

Shidara's got the right idea. AA will never be removed, why people are still trying to get it removed since LD was released September 14th, 2011 is beyond me.

"Happy-holocaust"? You do realize people will be offended by that, right? You did just chew me out for offending you.
And you claim I'm arguing with God by arguing with you. Huh. I'm pretty sure God wouldn't consider the name "Happy-holocaust" at all. In fact, I think He would consider that name a sin, as He would consider your ego a sin.
Yeah, so you didn't mean literally "make people cry", you meant "make people frustrated". You still said "i simply play to dominate other people and humiliate them". Humiliate. Huh. Still sounds like a bully.
Putting "nice" sentences at the end of your post doesn't make it any less rude than putting a flower on an eviction notice would make said eviction notice any less unpleasant.
Let me tell you something, Corpse. YOU ARE NOT GOD. YOU ARE NOT INVINCIBLE. YOU ARE NOT ALWAYS RIGHT. That probably goes for anyone posting on these forums- it's a factor of being human. I don't know why you have this puffed-up opinion of yourself, but you need to get rid of inflated ego before it ends up getting you killed- and make no mistake, it will, especially if you start driving and expect everyone to give you the right of way.

You do realize people will be offended by that, right?
While that matters little (really, we don't have to have a whole show of sackcloth and ashes everytime that comes up, but I digress), it does make Gods-Liver-Cyst look like a hypocrite and a goddamn fool. and I'd just like to take the time to say: shut up gods-cirrhosis

Oh how dare you say that my ego is inflated, it is the size of the moon my friend. And you say i am a bully take a long look at yourself trying to put me down in my own thread. Your a hypocrite to the max. And i think we could be friends if you weren't so mean. Some of my godly dust might just rub off on you if you decided to stop being such qn impeccable troll.
As for me being wrong about things, know that i am wrong about NOTHING! FOR MY WORDS ARE LAW. Doctor i speak the divine truth and nothing less but quite a bit more. Good day my friend and one day when you decide to be my friend some of my GODLY dust might just rub off on your heavily crippled soul!

Stop feeding the troll...
He'll get tired of speaking maniacally to himself and bumping his topic after a while.
~Sev

Hey sev stop butting in and listen you could let a little of my godly dust rub off on you if you to weren't as stuborn as spacebar.

3 alive ld threads about balance and unfairness at the moment. Wow
Eh, Lockdown will still suck either way. Removing it will just make more people complain about them removing a key feature in the game just as much as people are complaining that they should remove a key feature in Lockdown.
Yet no matter what happens, the world will keep turning.