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ASI or CTR for Pepperbox?

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Sat, 12/08/2012 - 16:29
Irokwe's picture
Irokwe

So, I will be making a Pepperbox. I have an Autogun (CTR low) and an Autogun (ASI low). I was wondering which trait would be better for my Pepperbox. Thanks in advance.

Sat, 12/08/2012 - 16:36
#1
Juances's picture
Juances

Meh, both are lows. I'd go for the CTR then.

Sat, 12/08/2012 - 16:49
#2
Skyguarder's picture
Skyguarder
I have ASI med on my blitz needle

Get CTR for your pepperbox. ASI won't be useful much on a pepperbox since speed is high enough.

Sat, 12/08/2012 - 18:15
#3
Ganzfeld-Effect's picture
Ganzfeld-Effect
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CTR, definitely. That is not a gun line you want to be using the regular attack for.

Sun, 12/09/2012 - 06:08
#4
Irokwe's picture
Irokwe
Yeah

I was thinking of CTR, but ASI would help me unload the clip a bit faster. So everyone thinks CTR?

Sun, 12/09/2012 - 07:15
#5
Bopp's picture
Bopp
data

Yes, CTR. ASI seems not to have a huge effect on Autoguns, perhaps because the firing part of the animation is so much longer than the about-to-fire and just-fired parts of the animation. See the Lancer Knightz handgun data (although they haven't measured every aspect of gun speed that you might care about).

Sun, 12/09/2012 - 08:19
#6
Shotjeer's picture
Shotjeer
CTR all the way

Autogun line has a devastating charge. With CTR, you can ue it more

Sun, 12/09/2012 - 15:42
#7
Irokwe's picture
Irokwe
kk

Ok, I'll go with CTR. Thanks guys! I will still go test firing with max ASI through armor and shield, and get some data on that. Unless Lancer Knightz already has data on that, I'll check in a moment.

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 05:38
#8
Bopp's picture
Bopp
yep

Yes, they have data at almost all levels of ASI and CTR. The issue is that they have only certain kinds of data: full clips per minute, full charges per minute, full combos per minute on swords, etc. They collect these particular data because they are highly reproducible --- there is no skill involved. But other measurements of speed, such as how fast you can fire two alchemers using alchemer switching, are not available.

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 06:22
#9
Fradow's picture
Fradow
Data <3

@Bopp you may want to know some alchemer switching data is available on this thread : http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/68414 though it's not perfect since skill is involved.

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 06:32
#10
Bopp's picture
Bopp
thanks for that

I stopped reading that thread before those data showed up. Thanks for pointing them out.

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 06:48
#11
Dukeplatypus's picture
Dukeplatypus
I'd say ASI as CTR doesn't do

I'd say ASI as CTR doesn't do much at low and, it might just be me, Pepperbox has a little pause at the end of the charge that lasts a bit too long. I end up getting hit because I'm stuck and can't shield in time.

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