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Wed, 01/30/2013 - 11:05
Thalia's picture
Thalia
Game Master

Today's release notes can be found here: http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/73222

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 11:10
#1
Paweu's picture
Paweu
Props for all the cutting

Props for all the cutting down on the abuse!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 11:10
#2
Njthug's picture
Njthug
=0

Quick question is the cost of furniture for guild halls dropping in price?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 11:11
#3
Glacies's picture
Glacies
Lastly, please be advised:

Lastly, please be advised: should you find any kind of whole ancient codex or grimoire from a black kat in the darkest depths of the Clockworks, you are to under no circumstances give it to anyone who could use it for EVIL.

Remember, guys. Don't let it fall into the wrong hands..... *evil laughter*

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 11:17
#4
Canine-Vladmir's picture
Canine-Vladmir
Creep Alert!

Am i the only weirded out by...
" Kat Tribe Fetish " ???

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 11:20
#5
Windsickle's picture
Windsickle
"Oh. THAT dark ritual."

Blast. I had a book on hold.

-Windsickle

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 11:28
#6
Gkku's picture
Gkku
Spy fun-fact (mostly boredom while waiting for the update):

This update has been in the works since roughly january 9th.

I even made a voltaic tempest recently for the sole purpose of fighting black kats when the update came.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 11:24
#7
Dmatter's picture
Dmatter
some of the "Additional

some of the "Additional Feature Changes" seem intresting like chaos cowl buff and "3d models in tool tips".
Let's see what happens.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 11:26
#8
Glacies's picture
Glacies
Just a question: Will the

Just a question:

Will the Black Kats be a perma. New Monster or will it be just until the Event is over?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 11:26
#9
Junecat's picture
Junecat
:)

The last part of the post really got me intersted. I can't wait to start.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 11:41
#10
Iapnez's picture
Iapnez
YES YES YES YES YES! I will

YES YES YES YES YES! I will now try to craft like crazy to get that Chaos set after this event. I've got my Heavenly Iron set to give me that curse resist. Did I mention that I'm going to run Candlestick Keeps and Scarlet Fortress depths like crazy? Black Kat = PROFIT... I'll just have to watch out for anything that shocks. 14 second shocks with Heavenly Iron are not fun. Still, getting my curse reduced to only 2 vials and 1 weapon is very beneficial.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 11:43
#11
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Bella-Donna
SQUEEEE!!! MUST GET ALL OF

SQUEEEE!!! MUST GET ALL OF THEM!

Hammer TIME!

Also if you catch me chilling in haven i can give kat hunting pointers (I can kill kats easily and well, i don't fear any status effect!)

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 11:44
#12
Glacies's picture
Glacies
@Malsvir-Branea

Radiant Silvermail would probably be better armor than complete Heavenly Iron Set. It gives Immunity to Weak Curse, Damage Bonus Undead: High (Damage Bonus Overall: Low) along with only 50% Shock Weakness... Unless you don't have it.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 11:44
#13
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Canine-Vladmir
Divine Supremacy!

First Ever 5* set I ever did was Divine Veil/Mantle.
Now its finally gonna be useful.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 11:46
#14
Iapnez's picture
Iapnez
I don't have silvermail, but

I don't have silvermail, but heavenly iron give strong curse resist in a tradeoff for shock weakness. I'll just try to roll a shock UV on both pieces.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 11:51
#15
Poetry's picture
Poetry
I believe i may actually no

I believe i may actually no longer be upset about the Shadowsun set being altered; the Chaos set buff might make up for it.

Three Rings, once again...

"You have my sword."
"And you have my bow."
"And my axe."
Poetry: "And my debit card."

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 12:03
#16
Iapnez's picture
Iapnez
Heheh. They don't have my

Heheh. They don't have my money for now because I have an Ele Pass. Tip: Grind the mission "Alone in the Dark" in addition to the daily prestige mission.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 12:10
#17
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Tevokkia
@Canine-Vladmir

Definition of FETISH
1
a : an object (as a small stone carving of an animal) believed to have magical power to protect or aid its owner; broadly : a material object regarded with superstitious or extravagant trust or reverence

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 12:17
#18
Bella-Donna's picture
Bella-Donna
BEST ARMOR FOR THIS!

The best armor for this is deadshot armor. Curse Resist, Shadow Resist, Normal Resist Undead med damage bonus, AND GUN ASI LOW bonus!

Set gives 8 points curse resist, undead vh damage bonus, gun asi med and lots of shadow and normal resist, since cats to normal and shadow damage.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 12:20
#19
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Shamanalah
All I have to say is....

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YAYYYY!!!!

TY OOO ^ ^

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 12:20
#20
Juances's picture
Juances

The bets armor is to have an extra weapon slot :P

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 12:23
#21
Eltia's picture
Eltia
Cooperstown, ND

For people who care:

  • Radiant Silvermail appears to be the choice of armor for this event. In additional to curse resistance, it provides Undead damage bonus;
  • for helmet, Divine Veil, Heavenly Iron and Valkyrie Helm all have equal curse resistance. Almirian Crusader Helm has the lowest curse resistance among all helmets.

Eh... is it just me or there is something not right about that curse resistance on Almirian set?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 12:31
#22
Glacies's picture
Glacies
@Eltia

There's also the Deadshot Set: Providing Undead Very High and Attack Speed Increase Guns: Medium along with immunity to Weak Curse Resistance.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:06
#23
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
@Eltia

Do you think that one of the Kat Hats could be the matching piece of armor to the Silvermail?

EDIT: Nope nevermind. on the other hand, FIRST SHADOW DEFENSE BOMBER HELM WOOOOOT!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 12:43
#24
Spicegirls's picture
Spicegirls

Look at the wiki. Cronus changed all the prices of guild stuff.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 12:44
#25
Njthug's picture
Njthug
=0

New prices arent bad lost a bit of money, but meh money is money lol <69

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 12:50
#26
Nattss's picture
Nattss
Excellent move on reducing

Excellent move on reducing guild hall prices OOO.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 12:55
#27
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Sir-Alfred
/cheer for cat bombers!

Pity I'll have to wait 2-3 hours for my comp to update before I can get started =( (416:08 atm)

At least I'll finally have some cat themed gear =)))

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:02
#28
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Etharaes
I LOVE YOU THREE RINGS!

MY CHAOS SET IS PURE AWESOMENESS NOW! I was just expecting an asi low per piece but NOPE.
CTR AND DAMAGE MEDIUM PER PIECE! PER PIECE I TELL YOU!!!

I could not be happier at this point.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:25
#29
Reqy
Chaos is now OP <3

Chaos is now OP <3

I honestly felt it was balanced the way it was having boosts on ALL weapons with the status resistances being it's set back in both PvP AND PvE aspects. Felt more like a 'Skilled at all, master of none' set. Now it just feels OP. I guess more power to me it being my favorite set.
So even being a little less squishy, it's punch is as powerful as a skolver/snarb, shadowsun, AND mad bomber. nice going. I have no need to use any other armor sets in the game.

I hope it's just a temporary thing for the update provided it fits the event theme.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:50
#30
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Sir-Alfred
OMG! Time to craft me a chaos

OMG! Time to craft me a chaos set!!!!!

Edit: 73% done ftw!

Editx2: 77% and taken 1/2 an hour to go up 4% =((

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:47
#31
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Shamanalah
NVM

It's really too easy. I would expect 2 black kat and a slag at the end or something... bleh

Edit: TY Nick but I found it by re-reading your notes. Silly me :D (thanks again!)

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:42
#32
Nick's picture
Nick
Developer
During the event, anywhere

During the event, anywhere spookats spawn in Tier 2 and Tier 3 (missions and Arcade) there is a chance to spawn a black kat instead.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:44
#33
Spicegirls's picture
Spicegirls

so essentially the same mechanic as love puppies

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:50
#34
Aumir's picture
Aumir
What!

WHAT IS THIS? Who in everything holy thought it was appropiate to buff Chaos Set and leave Mad Bomber still like this? No, seriously. Revert this non-intelligent decision right now, because I feel offended as a part-time bomber. This is some seriously wrong approach to gear "balancing". Are you going now to pull a bait and switch later on and nerf then? Will you pay the people who now craft a Chaos Set? Also, will you remove the status weaknesses Mad Bomber has? Please don't answer "but Chaos Set has more status weaknesses". I couldn't care less about Stun, etc. Etc being dissapeared Sleep.

And a timed event? This is what you spent time and resources instead of something factual, something permanent, something your audience can always enjoy after a year of just behind paywalls content and "once in a time per day and just one of them each 4 days" missions? Also, the stats of those masks are horrendous, you couldn't actually create an useful set of gear, who cares about those pieces when you have that awesome Chaos Set you just created?

The only happy part? Less expensive CE. Who cares when I can't still buy with it Crimson Hammer!

Expecting answers and interesting content.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 13:58
#35
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Knightveil
No way

I hope they will do this event very often because I really want all the helmets but there is ABSOLUTLY no way that I will manage to find 200 Black Kats + have enough time to craft a 5* within 2 weeks, there is no way I'll be able to pull that off, so I hope to see this event again in the very near future.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:05
#36
Orbwanter's picture
Orbwanter
--

A new feature that wasn't mentioned: whenever you run over a vial with full pockets, you get an "inventory full" message.

Also, I'm a bit disappointed that the 3D models in tooltips don't include furniture.

I hope they will do this event very often because I really want all the helmets but there is ABSOLUTLY no way that I will manage to find 200 Black Kats + have enough time to craft a 5* within 2 weeks, there is no way I'll be able to pull that off, so I hope to see this event again in the very near future.

More like 66, not including the missions. I saw a random Black Kat in the d27 prestige that dropped 3 tokens.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:18
#37
Aumir's picture
Aumir
^

Because putting the furniture thing would have meant accepting my suggestion. /sarcasm

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:19
#38
Canine-Vladmir's picture
Canine-Vladmir
Bug

Infinite Poison

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:28
#39
Asdfasdfasdfs's picture
Asdfasdfasdfs
Chaos is way too op

Whos idea was it to buff it?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:34
#40
Eltia's picture
Eltia
Cooperstown, ND

I have yet to encountered any Black Kat in T2 CW (Candlestick and Scarlet Fortress). Anyone has better luck?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:54
#41
Dmatter's picture
Dmatter
@eltia one so far.

@eltia one so far. EDIT: also, secret change is secret. one of the scarlet fortresses have been changed! It's the one with the infinite looping explosive bombs in it at the beginning, instead of hitting switches to change gates on the path when carrying the statue, you change gates so you can hit a switch out in the air.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:52
#42
Eltia's picture
Eltia
Cooperstown, ND

@Dmatter

Which map was it from?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:55
#43
Dmatter's picture
Dmatter
haunted passage 3rd floor of

haunted passage 3rd floor of t2 i think, but they are random.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:55
#44
Bluebrawlerneo's picture
Bluebrawlerneo
yay new update.

 WE'RE GOING IN HARD STRAP IN!!

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 14:55
#45
Doctorspacebar's picture
Doctorspacebar

I have to wonder what happens if you give the Kat a tome...

So, from what I can gather, these pieces of gear will become uncraftable after this event, because of a lack of Black Kats and Ancient Pages? That's really kind of a bummer, considering THERE IS A PIECE OF BOMBER ARMOR WITH SHADOW DEFENSE. Players have been clamoring for Bomber Armor with Shadow defense (and Pier

And speaking of that, why'd you have to go and make Mad Bomber obsolete by giving Chaos EXACTLY what it has, but for all weapons? If you're going to do that, can't you at least give Mad Bomber Shadow defense, so Bombers can get actual Shadow Defense after this event? It takes Trojan Horseshoes to make.

If I were in your place and absolutely HAD to keep Chaos's boosts the way you put 'em, I'd take away almost all its defenses and HP boosts. Chaos is supposed to be a "Glass Cannon" armor, when really it's a "Plateglass Cannon" armor. Actually, now it's more of a "Plateglass Nuke".

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 15:38
#46
Nearo's picture
Nearo
Any staff care to share

The chance of spawning a black kat? Or whether they're any more likely than mewkats at least.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 15:53
#47
Narfle's picture
Narfle
Overall I'm happy with this

Overall I'm happy with this update (now I have a reason to dust off my chaos set!) with one exception: 200 tokens to make it to a 5* kat hat in two weeks is REALLY substantial given the spawn rate for black cats. After finishing several runs, my party was averaging 1 black kat per floor, and only on those floors that were specifically kat-heavy. We came out of a t2 run with a grand total of 3 tokens, and a t3 run with the same. Add the prestige, that's 10 tokens so far out of quite a few levels. So 200 tokens, plus mats, crafting costs, etc. in two weeks? Mmmmm, I dunno...

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:36
#48
Ghost-Of-Manlet's picture
Ghost-Of-Manlet
Unlucky or doing it wrong?

Been to Alone in the Dark's first floor 50 times now. Not a single Black Kat was seen.

/e is sad.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:03
#49
Likal's picture
Likal
About the previews

Okay, that 3D model for equipment? That's cool, but nothing we couldn't already do with the preview button. You know where we really need that? Furnishings. Please, please, pretty please. I've been begging for a preview function for furniture for a while now, and this seems the perfect way to do it.

(Oh, and please also add the previews to accessories and have armor/helm previews include attached accessories.)

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 16:39
#50
Gkku's picture
Gkku
Everything seems broken.

Me and a friend ran the mission earlier, and we saw 3 black kats. Now, the patch notes say in tier 3, they drop 3 ancient pages right?
The last two didn't drop any at all.

Since then, I've been going down to T3 candlestick over and over (<3 temporary elevator price reduction), and I've done so countless times now, but I have yet to see anymore black kats. Can anyone confirm seeing them outside the mission?

Either there's various things not mentioned in the patch notes (very rare outside of mission, can drop >UP TO< 3 in tier 3, etc), or they're very broken at the moment.

or me and my friend just have VERY bad luck.

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