Spiral Knights - New weapon line, Chaos Blade

New weapon line, Chaos Blade

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Tue, 02/19/2013 - 07:15

Gwenyvier

A sword weapon line that goes from 2* up to 5*. 3 swings, and same damage as the Calibur line. The catch is it has stats in all 4 damage types, and which is used is chosen at random each swing. The charge attack is the same as a FoV, damage type is again chosen at random... with a chance of dealing a single status randomly (all but Sleep) to enemies or yourself.

It would be an interesting little toy to use in the Clockworks, and would add a fun bit of chaos to LD.

And I'm tired as hell at the moment, hence why the description sucks.

~Gwen

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 07:18

Moonsoon

I like the extreme wackyness that this will bring.
Get that sleep back in that charge though
and get some sleep yourself!

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 07:53

Sconesy

love it

I love the idea and would bring that sword with me on every run!

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 07:58

Earthboundimmortal

I like the idea but because it is random, the default damage(not type) would have to be higher than the calibur line, so if at 2*, the calibur had 3 bars of damage, it would have to have a random damage of 4 bars.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 08:05

Aureate

but then I would not be able to use chaos safely D:

Think someone mentioned a similar idea, except originating from the Sealed Sword line rather than being a whole separate thing.
Also, would the standard attack be similar to FoV as well (Status inflicting), and how heavy would the weapon be?

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 08:09

Zeyez

eyes trying to see the end to another end

same pattern of attack and charged attack from the Calibur series... this don't add anything

random status effect on charge on yourself and/or enemies... we already have sealed sword doing random status this, without drawback, and the faust/FoV with drawback, but nearly guaranteed status inflict type
at least, we can use some status resistance to spam the charges of the FoV (vog set) and Faust (divine veil/almirian), that weapon will not give choice to us

random damage type... what's happen if you just did piercing damage against Jelly King? will not feel frustrated?

overall:
was better just got the Leviathan Blade, doing neutral damage against everything and got some side weapon status inflict/vial, than using something than can be overpowered/useless
Chaos set, at least, have something guaranteed, like elemental resistance and mid negative status resistance against all status (except stun and sleep), that weapon only will have utility if the wielder are searching for some fun, not more

"even chaos can have some sense, if you look alone"

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 08:22

Moonsoon

I think the random status

I think the random status should only be inflicted on the charge unlike the FOV. Status effects can destroy harder than most weapons and if you've all of a sudden have shock/fire/curse on you from getting hit a few times then you're totally screwed. Although that would be really awesome for PvE.

As for the swing type maybe a bit faster than most swords simply because 50% of hits will be neutral damage and 25% resistant dmg (for PvE)
For PvP that's a little harder to get solid info on dmg.

>random damage type... what's happen if you just did piercing damage against Jelly King? will not feel frustrated?
You're missing the entire point. That's why this would be fun.

also i'm in favor of this being shaped like a stave

@scone every run right beside that bio & pimp cane

E2: Pssssstt aureate
Chaos set isn't supposed to be safe :P

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 08:23

Little-Juances

"I like the idea but because it is random, the default damage(not type) would have to be higher than the calibur line"

Actually, if the random damage is pure it should be like calibur or even weaker. Else it'd kill anything easily even with the randomness factor.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 08:27

Retequizzle

The argument against utility

The argument against utility is null and void considering we've got a metric #@*( ton of weapons that don't have much of a purpose other than to sit there and look pretty (lookin' at you, Winmillion) and yet they're still weapons and, based off of OOO's lack of attention towards them, are likely considered "finished" for all intents and purposes.

That being said, I'm indifferent on the sword proposal. It swings, it sounds like it'll make people go "dafk" more often than regular things do, and it's different.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 08:54

Gwenyvier

Status only inflicted on the

Status only inflicted on the charge attack. Knew I forgot something.

~Gwen

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 09:09

#10

Canine-Vladmir

Quick Question.

Does it have a Leviathan Look to it or a hunting blade look to it? #random

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 11:20

#11

Kagisnad-Il

It's a very original idea, I

It's a very original idea, I like it. o: I wouldn't use it myself on a daily basis because I dislike such chaotic things but I'd like to see it and try it out perhaps!

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 11:21

#12

Njthug

+1 I would get Ctr Vh on this

+1 I would get Ctr Vh on this sword and just spam it for fun would be pretty cool if they had a bomb n gun line as well =0

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 11:47

#13

Luguiru

Sealed + Calibur + ten bags of cocaine = whatever the liquids this thread is

I wonder when my new straitjacket is coming. Threads like this are wearing my old one out from all my thrashing.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:03

#14

Bugtester

-1

I don't like it for the simple fact that we not just have more swords than other weapons, but also already have more than enough Calibur types.
Not to mention the weapons that still need to see some love concerning their balancing.

Hence I give a "No" for a wacky calibur clone with effect I'd not even want to use. Especially if it was a pure damage type where you'd have severe problems killing anything.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:33

#15

Krakob

@Yauj
In what way do we have many Caliburesque weapons? We have Calibur and FoV. Vanquishers, if they aren't Caliburs. FoV doesn't really function as a Calibur entirely, it's just three swings and the same charge style. It swings at the speed of a Sealed Sword anyway.
Don't we have, say, enough Alchemers? They're all basically the same =P

@OP
Let's do some maths. Say a neutral attack does 100 damage, a weak one 50, a normal one 120 and a strong one 150 (these are NOT any real numbers, they are just made up.)
(100+50+120+150)/4=105
105 damage in average. Compared to 120 from a normal damage weapon. There'd be no point in it, really. The charge? Oh, okay...
But uh... Could we get some real weapons first?

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 22:07

#16

Aumir

Praise the Sun!

Interesting concept, it would make a neat PvP weapon, as well as a fun one.

Though I think I need some sleep, I thought that Gwynevere was asking to implement the Chaos Blade katana...

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