My lottery thread got shut down and I wasn't even hosting the lottery- it was just a discussion. I say if player-hosted gambling has the chance to scam people out of money and is not allowed in this game then this status poker game should probably get shut down before someone gets hurt.
@Dragneel Your last post before my thread shut down gave me a ton of respect for you. Add me in-game? :3 IGN is same as forums.
Edited just to prevent future arguments. Don't want to spark another.
I thought Poker was a card game that involved strategy. I didn't know a guessing game could be called Poker these days. Since its "Poker" can we have shared or community colors each game? If I get colors I don't want can I trash them and get new colors as my hand? Are deuces wild? What if the person next to me folds their hand? If I get the same color 5 times in a row how do I tell if it is a flush, straight flush, or royal flush?
If you can't tell by now.. I'm pretty bored and just screwing with you because its called Status "Poker".
I vote for a name change to Status Guessing.
I actually do have the "True game" of Status Poker in beta. But it's really really complex... I may need some beta testers :)
If you need to double post with a bump, it probably means there's nothing to discuss, and you want attention above others.
As others before me have mentioned, this isn't INHERENTLY god-awful, but it certainly does encourage other problems.
It's a little depressing that you call it 'poker' when all it is is a two-tier lottery... I personally despise gambling. All this seems to be to me is a way for you to get rich quick, inspiring negative qualities in other people. Don't make this another Lockdown.
I'm frustrated that whenever anyone argues against this they're forced to bump it too. It's like having a billboard advertisement that teleports in front of you whenever anyone talks about it, no matter where, when, and why.
This topic is like abortion/death penalty its hard to pick which side you stand on. I have played runescape which might as well be known as gamblescape and it was a regular occurrence that people would be scammed. Remexe I totally believe you are doing this soley for fun and have no intent to scam anyone. The fact is the game can never be safe since it involves a person trust trading and thus people can be scammed. I personally dont mind gambling at all but I can tell you that gambling is very addictive and when you lose you usually spend everything you have to get your money back and when that happens you will end up broke. And once a player goes broke at least in runescape they quit the game. With spiral knights only having so many players this is not something that is in the best interest of the game. Im glad everyone is having fun tho and I wish I could take part but super busy. Honestly this is 000 fault for making sealed colors random so no player should be punished because they fail to foresee a random occcurence from an item becoming a game of chance. I dont blame any player for even making up the game because it 000 fault for taking so long on making new content that players have resorted to gambling for fun instead of actually enganging with the game. Plus gambling will also reduce the amount of players in both lockdown and parties simply because they will chose to gamble instead. You probably should have kept it hidden so only you guys could enjoy it since others will certainly ruin it.
If this will be a legit update (Which is a longshot), Not only will it be taking the same path RuneScape took, but I will be very displeased, and maybe quit. But like I said, longshot. Soooo..... Yeah I'm still here.
What's SoF?I quit RuneScape a long time ago (never was premium there) and ditched it for this beautiful, original work of art.
SoF is short for Squeal of Fortune which, as the name suggests, is a wheel of fortune. You spin it and you win random prizes, varying from straight out money, experience lamps, costumes, experience boosting equipment and even raw items. Free players get one spin per day, members get two, and there are several ways of getting mulitple spins per day, meaning more money, experience, gear, whatever. You're getting stuff handed to you every day for absolutely nothing but a mouse-click, meaning you can both gain experience and money for only a minute's worth of play-time. I'm sure you can piece together where I'm going with this.
Unfortunately, Shidara is right in this case. Anyone who has seen what the flower game/dicing/player-hosted gambling did to Runescape would know that it essentially ruined the game; some people like myself even theorize that it is where Jagex got the idea for the SoF and the beginning of "pay to win."
Don't even think we're kidding, you do not know how bad something like this can be in the long-run. This is not a path we want Spiral Knights to go down, and this needs to be nipped in the bud. Hopefully the GMs act on this soon.
@Remexe, "Why would I go through all the trouble of developing a one of a kind game just for the use of scamming?"
First off, it isn't really one of a kind (see Runescape's flower game). Games like this are considered a scam for two reasons; the first is that someone could easily just take the money and walk away without paying out. Even if you don't, others will. People who are long on greed and short on morals will scam with it without a second's hesitation. The second is that the odds are stacked immensely in the dealer's favor and anyone who plays more than a game or two is guaranteed to lose money, unlike this "poker" you advertise it as. Poker is a skill game involving reading and deceiving opponents;
Call a duck a duck, this is a luck game--and one stacked for the host at that.
As the game stands... With two rolls:
Chance to win nothing: 64%
Chance to win double: 32%
Chance to win quadruple: 4%
When hosts inevitably start offering one roll:
Chance to win nothing: 80%
Change to win double: 20%
Chance to win quadruple: 0%