The link is: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/28P9CVK
Eurydice already posted it on the suggestion forums, but since not everyone visits it I'm reposting it here so it gets a better visibility. If you have enough free time to answer it, please do it. It benefits yourself and the community as a whole.
the survey doesn't work for me... T__T I click my answer for the first question, then hit next, and it says that i need to select an answer... :/
You can giving money to your favorite charity by doing surveys!!!
lol. who else had that pop out after the survey?
Hey Byas! add a couple of theses ** around the title to get peoples attentions. Asterisks never fail.
I made a thread/survey about what update do players want the most and majority said gear balancing. Im glad they are finally taking it seriously.
It took me a good 30-45 minutes to complete the whole thing (with paragraphs in all the Are and Why sections), though I actually enjoyed it. Sadly, I doubt that it'll come to any good..
I did it in less than 3 minutes.
>polluting survey results since launch.
Maybe people will start coming up with ideas for balancing stuff and suggesting it.
Or ask for healing weapons again.
Or removing the energy system.
Or making CE free.
Or making energy regenerate derpbillion times faster.
I sense another dark age for sausage tins approaching.
> Hey Byas! add a couple of theses ** around the title to get peoples attentions. Asterisks never fail.
Done. :)
It took me about 90 minutes to go through the whole thing. And it wasn't even an interesting 90 minutes - we apparently need to state the obvious, and there's just a whole lot of obvious to state when it comes to gear balance.
That's why I mentioned in the "anything else you want to tell us?" section that just because lots of people suggest something with no explanation or counterarguments doesn't mean it's a good idea.
What would i do for a klondike bar?
Read Lugui's thread and his probably really long suggestion that he just posted in that survey..
But i would love it, its some of the best reading ever.. for gaming balance anyway.
Anyway nice thread did the survey. told them to listen to Lugui...
i made check marks at "I don't know what unique variants are." :3
oops i read the part that the survey is by eury after having filled it..
-Worst Swords
Trokia Line
Cutters
Fire Stun Flourish
CIV
-Best Swords
Brandish
Final Flourish
DA
GF
Tha Hammer
Levi
Levi and DA got powercreeped by Brandish. I can't even consider them Tier 1 swords anymore.
I hope nobody was screaming "nerf this and nerf that!" which doesn't solve anything. The broken/useless weapons just need to be fixed.
The whole game just needs rebalancing, basically.
Exactly. People HATE it when their favorite weapons get destroyed.
I didn't demand nerfs for anything. Instead, I enumerated all the ways in which, say, alchemer and chaos were overpowered compared to iron slug and mad bomber. How they choose to interpret that information is anyone's guess.
We simply need to give people incentives for using other gear rather than the usual.
How they choose to interpret that information is anyone's guess.
This was the first thing I thought of when I read that. Does this say a lot about my opinion of Three Rings?
On topic, I found I was heavily biased on using my own available knowledge, which involves a scant few weapons and armours, which may or may not be good. I'm hoping they'll do more of these surveys, although the demented box probably would fry the liquids out of poor Eury's brain with this one alone.
Looks like OOO is still out of touch with the PvP community. The number one problem that prevents the PvP in SK from having any credibility from a design standpoint has always been and still is the rampant manifestation of pay to win. Gear balance, while still a valid issue, is dwarfed in comparison.
Back when I was still involved with this game, I had suggested a system that would both allow fair and balanced PvP matches while still providing compensation to OOO. Despite clear support from the community, it appears that my suggestions have fallen upon deaf ears.
Nick et al., if you're reading this, please let the community know whether or not addressing pay to win is anywhere on your agenda for the direction of this game. I need to know whether it is worthwhile for me to hold onto my existing gear, or whether I should cash in my chips to trade for other games instead. I understand that the free to play business model requires certain concessions to be made, but I don't believe that compromising fundamental aspects of game design is one of them.
pvp in this game is a sick sick joke. Look at my name and realise my bias. The fact is, people would love to use other weapons rather than the generic loadouts you see but they can't because these generic weapons and UVs are huge equalizers for latency. Those with low latency that use these generic weapons are already overpowered regardless of UVs but will faulter a bit against anyone with the same weapons and if these weapons are nerfed then you essentially take away the equalizer and make the game more advantageous for low pingers. The fact that thrillhaus is even alluding to the 'skill vs UVs' argument makes me laugh and its obvious he is referring to Jempire. If you want fair and balanced PvP then get better servers so more people can at least have a fighting chance in pvp or kick out all the high pingers and laggers because they are never going to stop complaining.
pvp isn't even a main drawing point for this game but it is a neglected part of end-game. The functionality and mechanics of pvp need to be reworked before they even consider gear balance which as we all know is directly related to pvp. I doubt custom lobbies will be coming any time soon seeing as they can't even implement something as simple as a numerical ping tracker to replace this ambiguous bar system.
No one else mentioned Winmillion for worst sword?
Winmillion is so bad that I forgot about its existence entirely while filling out the survey.
I took every chance I could to bash Wolvers and Trollaris, while commenting on the lack of use for normal defense, and the lack of love for gun and bomb sets, ie a shadow bomber set. I also accused them of being too scared of the wrath they'd stir up for giving wolver lines the nerf they need. :)
Like it'll do anything though...
I typed None every time the survey asked the question What is the most useless _____ in Spiral knights.
I only typed none for shields
Well, Shields are Fairly balanced, only nots so good ones being Defender and Some other shield...
When it only requires someone with half a brain to log onto the game and play, or look at the stats in the wiki. Surely devs already know what needs balancing, this is just shushing the masses of butthurt forumers crying for rebalancing/readdition of the RSS. But it has been shown that these devs don't know how to deal with weapon rebalancing (at least for guns/bombs) many times. Rebalancing the sentenza badly, then asking people whether or not the new shard lines were any good. Despite the unanimous conclusion that the bombs were not ready for the game, they were pushed into prod, then gave a ticket to us for compensation. Also, the iron slug. It was said by nick that it was be buffed months ago. And several sleep resistant items still exist, even though it was removed 2 years ago. Screw that.
Even though that makes me mad, OOO is great at building a game, despite the balance issues and the obvious dislike of guns and bombs. I have loved the recent addons to the game, and cannot wait for the new battle sprites. Still, it is a bummer.
Conclusion: NOTHING NEW WILL HAPPEN. RSS, in all of its fun glory, is gone. Blatantly OP sets will NOT change, and neither will Blatantly underpowered ones. Bombs will never really be encouraged to be used. Why would you need a bomb when you can use a glacius charge, or a polaris?
"Shields are fairly balanced"
I beg to differ-
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Barbarous_Thorn_Shield
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Royal_Jelly_Shield
Lets just say that sleep does come out, and that it ends up being just as bad as fire or shock. That would create a niche for royal jelly shield, but would it be enough to really make it viable over barbarous thorn shield?
When you go to C42, how many people bring dragon scale shield? How many people don't?
And more importantly, which bring it and which don't? Hint: Curious people with nothing better to craft. Not new players.
But yeah, shields are admittedly more balanced than anything else. Most of them are at least vaguelly usable, with the noted exception of barbarous thorn shield being like a usable version of switstrike that benefits sword users.
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