Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

It's interesting, but I shouldn't by hyped so much....
A small question:

Would this be implemented in Lockdown too? Because I can't see how this would work...

I like the sound of these new mechanics, they will add some interesting new gameplay.

But please please please compensate this with a monster buff, if only a little one. Shield bumping, and standard dodging already do a great job of avoiding attacks.

I hope this cool-down feature is long enough to make this new dash as a 'last-resort' mechanic, seeing as it grants limited invulnerability. It makes sense to have this feature in place so when you are very low on health you can dash away to safety to avoid those final blows.

All-in-all, exciting times.

But... I hope you make the enemies tougher soon too.

I saw this earlier, but I couldn't post. As a wasdf player(f is shield) whith mouse facing, the keys are fine for me (I've still got q and e), but it would be hard for laptops, gamepads, etc. to find buttons, so yeah. But as I don't judge before something happens, and I don't see any unreasonable details (I mean, the dash is pretty much a dodge, of course it'll need invincibility frames to be helpful.)I'll let you guys go back to discussing it.

Will the bash replace bumping?

I sincerely hope they have individual key-bindings, and not a 'double-click' function, i.e. double-click DEFEND to Shield Bash or something similar, as I imagine that becoming aggravating in hectic situations.

Other than that, sounds cool, but us Knights are kinda getting really powerful compared to our adversaries now, which is a let down truth be told. Hope our enemies become stronger in turn so that they can match up to our new tricks, especially with the up and coming Battle Sprites joining our forces.

I know what this is readying for!

Once a Trotodrone started harassing you at close range, you couldn't escape because their attacks launched them very far forward. With the rate they attacked at and their homing ability, you couldn't escape them!

Either that or they have something in store for wolvers...I mean, wolvers are supposed to be the most agile thing in the game! If they have poor attacks, maybe they are going to make up for it by becoming the next devilite in dodging and being annoying?

You don't need two seperate buttons for this feature: Pressing the dash button dashes, pressing the dash button while your shield is up and at full strength performs a shield bash.

if possible, ill mostly be using it to move faster

in combat itd take getting used to. would be fun in pvp i guess - also my interest in sk pve is really small atm

oh yea and..i can see ppl using the dash to get away from their hated nitronomes hahahaha^^

hey how about making some agile boss, who u have to grind in order to unlock the ability? im just suggesting dont rage me *leaves thread carefully*

I've actually thought about sprinting/dashing for a while now, and how useful it'd be.
+1 for dashing
+1 for shield bashing
I dunno how shield bashing will actually work, but we'll see.
YEAAAAH
I want to run all over the place now.
Can I dash in haven?
I wanna dash in haven.
Let us dash around haven.
If you dash into a wall, will you fall over? (Like Almirians falling over when overloaded with dmg)
If I dash into an enemy, will It knock it back?
How long till dashing?
DAAASHING!!!!

All over the clockworks dashing white wolvers will be doing the the dance of my people.

But yeah... Will the shield bash power/shield drain amount will be related to the strength of your shield? So Swiftstrike will have a poor bash where as Volcanic Plate Shield will have a big bash? If so will it be related to Star level, or defense?

Will the bash take the same amount off your shield health in Tier 1 as in Tier 3? Or is it related to tier/monster type?

@Neodasus
Dude stop. You need a psychiatrist. Feelings of grander aren’t healthy.
“This was most likely a spot decision. It looks to me like someone read my weapons survey.”
“Does OOO hate money?”
“I feel like if I throw enough money at OOO things can get going.”

You know, the insane attack the sanity of others believing they are sane and it’s everyone else that’s screwed up.
“There an OOO defense force? Seriously? Dang dude, that's like borderline Stockholm syndrome.”

Further evidence of this mental health issue is to be so delusional you see victimization's that don’t exist especially if you are trying to convince others that they are being victimized when they aren’t.
“You're being held hostage and you're the last to realize it.”
Yes, I took it out of context. That followed this and actually fits in more with your super power of x-ray vision:
“How many times do you run Vana each day? Yeah. For what exactly?”
You have no freaking idea what I do when I play demonstrated by the ? after the “each day” but you say I am doing it and therefore I must be therefore you have found the victimization that doesn’t exist but you did a great job of creating it.

Having super powers like x-ray vision into what others are doing in personal areas like their game accounts/bank accounts is also quite delusional.
“OOO defense force is almost ALWAYS F2P.”

More proof of your delusional thoughts… I have friends who do this therefore I’m the professional.
“Yeah, creating new AI and character models is WORK, I have friends that do this every day. However it's not as impossible as alot of people make it out to be. It's not magic, it's science.”

Run grasshopper to your nearest mental health clinic. You’re in need of some serious help.

Hmmm... if shield bashin will be avaible on LD it will add some point of playing guardian. :)
Dash will change SK forever. Pretty good idea. Hope it wont be avaible when playing Striker on LD. As Byas said, that will be horror. ;/
IMO on LD it should look like that:

Guardian = Only shield-bash
Recon = Dash
Striker = None

Will be some balance...

Would be cooldown between dashes?

PS - Please add some bonuses for playing without shield ;0

tl;dr

Too long; didn't reply.

:3

We're going to have a war now, right?

Also, it'd be cool if they changed the Barbarous Thorn Shield to instead have a bigger bash. The description justifies it. Gets stabbed by a toothpick-wielding, Thorn Shield-loving skolver clone.

EDIT: PS - Please add some bonuses for playing without shield ;0

I've read a few times that shields are intended as a required piece of equipment, just like weapons. Just like weapons, you can also de-equip shields. in asking this, you should also be asking for bonuses without playing with a weapon. /sarcasm

I don't have any links, but I think I remember Nick saying the stuff about shields.

lol everytime I say that word I hear the demoman's scream.

Wait...what? I don't even...

And yes, I wanna try that when they add this. Scale Shield, FTW! Runs into T3 Heart of Ice.

Also, who wants to kill Vanaduke with just full Royal Jelly set, and no weapons? Clash of the royal tyrants, eh?

If omega shell gives longer stun/more damage/more uses of the shield bash and more uses of the shield dash, I think it will start being used a lot more. I am interested to see if the shield bump will do different damage depending on the shield, or even different damage types.

If this is implemented into lockdown, wouldn recon be able to execute these actions invisible? And if a guardian equips the hammer we will have super mobile tanks (not that they can tank much in T3 anyways).

Oh, and Zeddy's shadow defender thing will actually be viable.

tl;dr

Wait... Is that Iamnoone I hear coming? TAKE COVER!!!

Oh boy, and only 5 ce per use? I can't wait!

Okay soo...

Will these be available in PvP ?

How effective is the knock-back ?

If you can passively knock-back with an ability, whats the point in the Troika weapons existing ? Seems like Troika will have no use once these abilities come out. Dash back or Bash+Knock-back+Stun. Dashing back will provide a massive defensive boost or offensive boost if you go foward, if you need to create room this would prove to be more effective. Bash does everything Sudaruska does without a charge, instantly, with seemingly faster recovery..Oh and guaranteed stun instead of a stun chance.

If you ask me this is more reason to choose a Brandish or other weapons.

Now you need to add some new content to balance these changes which will make the game SO MUCH EASIER.

Or just buff all the enemies to these changes.

EDIT: Would be nice to use with my extra Swiftstrike Health. I barely use that thing for defence now.

Man, ok. I've waited long enough for you guys. I was wondering when someone would pick up on it, but here it is. You don't know how huge this is for competitive PvP, and how this will change the game for up and coming guilds with a fair amount of talent. Let me spell it out for you:

Dash invincibility frames get past Polaris soft-locks. Do you guys realize how game-changing this is for guilds that aren't as wealthy as jempire? It makes games more skill-intensive and not so much gear-dependent. This is Nick's way of balancing Lockdown without any actual balancing.

Hmm, there seems to be quite a few people familiar with these new abilities, how they affect the difficulty of the game, and whether or not they are available for use in lockdown. And here I thought they hadn't been made available for testing yet. *rolls eyes*

I imagine dashing will be fun to putz around with, although I can't think of too many practical uses for any short ranged dash. As for shield bashes, since swords have ranged attacks with charge spam, it's only fair that gunners and bombers get melee attacks.

Was expecting a long, barren wait for pets. All these new features in the interim are a pleasant surprise.

^
That's what everyone is arguing about. We aren't octopuses. And a regular joystick don't have so many keys.

A monthly update that actually works (Except we've already had shield bashing. Just press X next to an monster and push them out of your way).

OOO, I am proud.