So I came to play SK, after not playing it for almost a year and usually when I join in tier 2 I would match up with people all the time.
now its just empty and there's barely anyone in the arcade, is this game dying? or is everyone sleeping .-.
Where is everybody?
Sadly... everyone trying to farm king of ashes since it gives 7.3-7.7k cr plus 3k cr (from tokens) so they dont bother to play arcade because they can go to FSC with just 1 click or being dropped in the mission by a friend or guildie. and some players are in Lockdown so thats the only few things that players do now.
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Mission
In case my sarcasm wasn't enough. Now the arcade is just an abandoned place covered in spiderwebs.
So Mission just basically killed arcade?
RIP arcade
Thanks for the answer by the way.
I see plenty of people in the arcade. Not in the actual arcade arcade but down in the depths of the arcade, since its redundant to go there and kind of dumb to, unless you want to get some of the krogmo stuff or deposit a mineral.
Missions didn't kill the arcade.
Firestorm Citadel did.
When are they going to balance out the payouts with the amount of effort? Or maybe make it so you can ONLY run a mission once a day.
There is no valuable reason to go to the Arcade, except for maybe Basil and his non-Hall of Heroes recipes; ya know those recipes that aren't in hall of heroes and stuff. But, yeah, there needs to be something of value to go to the Arcade. Going to the Arcade would mean that you would be loosing profit that could be made in those popular Tiers, like FSC. You'd be a fool to go to the Arcade, a liberal, conservative hating fool with idealistic ideas of having civil rights for pets. That, and everyone follows the mainstream community of Spiral Knights. We're all here to play this game only to make game money; the SK community are all monkey-suit loving business people who love to play with stocks. The AH is a LIE! That's no AH, IT'S WALL STREET!
Kitty why so jaded.
I haven't done fsc in weeks.
Still making enough to keep playing and crafting new things.
And so much less grindy.
Having a lot of fun helping noobs with their missons, doing Basil runs etc.
I am not here to make game money, I am here to have a good time and meet fellow game enthusiasts.
Happy Hunting
-A
Acck the problem is that most of the players dont think like you.
i dont need the money too, and i just help newbies on their missions because i dont find anything else to do in spiral. rescuing dead friends or guildies, and pretty much crafting stuff with my Mist since i still have a bunch of materials. and arcade runs to remember the old good times...
But now looking at most of the players its just the daily FSC run and lockdown matches. so sadly the game dont have a lot of players who dont care to advance or rush trought their mission or even dont care about money, the game have a lot of players who want to be 5 stars on the most quick way possible and the only way they know to do it without spent time on arcade, AH sniping for good deals, or selling materials... its to do FSC because they dont know about that or dont have the patience to do that.
So... yeah pretty much FSC killed Arcade but talking about the player population there. because most of the player population is on King of Ashes farming crowns all they want from there.
Even Nick tried to change that "behavior" by removing the Ce and Cr from the HUD to be moved on the inventory. but this didnt change nothing and only enraged some players... :/ oh well :P nothing new since its the same thing of every day when someone talk about Arcade heh
Even Nick tried to change that "behavior" by removing the Ce and Cr from the HUD to be moved on the inventory. but this didnt change nothing and only enraged some players
-Sweet-Hope
Jeeze, Nick! We are not stupid! Well, if Nick really wants to change the community, then how come he doesn't rework how profit works in the game? Why should Firestorm Citadel give the most heat, the most crowns, and give tokens to players? It's basically telling us that all other content in the game is useless to do. Does Nick know what we want? What the community wants? It's crowns and heat, that's what the players want. We will go play the content that gives us the most of this stuff, and after that, we will realize how boring and repetitive doing this content is, and then, after that, we will quit/stop paying money.
@Acck
I'm jus' saying what I am witnessing ~
Sadly... everyone trying to farm king of ashes since it gives 7.3-7.7k cr plus 3k cr (from tokens)
Can people please stop saying this? It's incredibly misleading, and completely untrue.
On topic, the FSC problem has been addressed several times by the community. Why hasn't Three Rings done the same? Is it easier to try and get the community to bullscrap itself? I'm not trying to be hostile towards the Devs, I'm just saying what I'm feeling/seeing.
FSC gives the most heat, crowns and tokens because it is the final levels/boss in the game (excluding SLs). It makes sense to have it like this.
I'll add to this thread that I really don't think arcade is as unprofitable as people make out. I have been able to obtain 8k crowns from Tier 2 sometimes from the non-boss gates! And thats before token, material and recipe sales. From tier 3 you can get between 9-12.5k cr from a full run before material, token and recipe sales.
With the right combination of arenas, recipes, danger rooms and monster type Tier 3 Arcade runs are just as worth doing as FSC. And if you're playing from mist anyways who cares? It's all profit anyway until you're using CE, and even then you can still profit.
The materials from Arcade are actually very useful. If you farm FSC all day you're not going to get the wide variety of materials you need to craft all your gear so you end up wasting tokens and crowns having to buy materials when you do want to craft.
With some money and luck, T3 arcade would give serval time more profit, than FSC for that same energy (less with friends*). But yeah, dumbs of course will grind in that same, boring place. For what? For better grinding.
Poor, poor no-lifes.
If you farm FSC all day you're not going to get the wide variety of materials you need to craft all your gear so you end up wasting tokens and crowns having to buy materials when you do want to craft.
Okay, what will someone do once they have gotten what they wanted from their crown farming? Will they use that gear in FSC? They don't play in the Arcade, and the only other place to use their gear would be in LD. So, what WILL you guys do once you have what you want from your FSC farming? Play more FSC and just hoard crowns for no reason and play LD?
I, along with many other players I know, have been playing the game for so long that there's nothing else to do besides farm/merchant for money to buy cosmetic items, do the prestige missions, and play LD. I understand the clockworks are fun, there were a lot of great times back there, but no matter how diverse things are, it's probably not going to be fun in the end unless you're running with friends. Really, would you rather work with a low salary with the possibility of friends working there, or would you rather work at a place with nearly double the other salary, and a higher chance friends will be working there as well.
It is sad that people just grind FSC when they have availability to it. But I find grinding the same level over and over and over boring. So what do I do? I do basil runs, find arenas in the arcade, do JK or RT, selling stuff that I don't need, and selling cheese. Granted, we don't know if we eat. And if we do, we don't know if we are allergic to cheese, which would be a travesty. But I try to spice things up.
King of Ashes pay-out should be less, like 4K crowns, and make the arcade version 7-8K crowns.
When Im done Prestige-ing, and havent much else to do,
I like to go searching for Scenario areas, see what else is new.
Maybe a Camp? Maybe a Lab? Maybe something else?
Im sure to find something out there soon.
Why dont you have a look yourself?
"Sleeping", yes.