Hey guys, imagine.... Imagine a FoV with the speed from a Cutter, and from each swing, it would release some fire .. Like the Winmillion, but Winmillion isnt releasing fire. However, This weapon would be soo BOSS, BADASS AND EPIC.
OOO, if you make this weapon, directly this game would be more awesome. Cmon, we would like to feel like a ninja. BTW, This weapon would have Elemental damage...
(Reducing some damage cuz it would be way to OP)
Winmillion FoV cutter? If you reduce the damage of each swing to 10-15 ok...
I'd like my FoV to be as fast as a Leviathan. Any faster [like a flourish] would be overpowered.
I dunno, but the FoV just seems a bit heavy to me after using CIV, Levi, and Lionheart for half a year.
So you want us to imagine it? I can't imagine it because I don't know the details ._.
In my opinion, the FoV should be entirely reworked to act as a fire Cutter. Same general damage, but split Normal/Elemental, with the same charge attack, too! The Cutter line is very fun, but no current Cutter-style gear is "optimal" because of their pitifully low damage compared to other equipment. This is mostly because of having full normal damage.
While we're at it, make DVS Normal/Shadow and WHB Normal/Piercing, like I've been saying for about a year now.
can we stop posting in this stupid thread. let it die.
no, it's an achronim I've never seen using in these forums, that is OT, off topic. make another topic.
I would add what I think, but that would be OT.
It isn't awfully off topic, since this is about making a normal/elemental Spur/Cutter mishmash. I'm pointing out how great it'd be if the FoV's normal attacks were cutter themed, and if the same split damage archetype applied to the other cutters. I'm not going from dragonfruit to danishes, I'm going from red apples to green apples.
If I made another topic, sillies would say 'use the search bar'. If I bumped an old one, they'd cry 'necro'. Attempt to sneak bits into relevant threads, get called out for going off topic. How am I supposed to play this strange forum game and not lose? By not playing at all? That accomplishes nothing.
Ignore these people claiming that this would be overpowered; as long as it does the equivalent amount of elemental damage to a WHB/DVS's normal damage then it won't be overpowered. Also reduce the proc rate to a 'moderate' chance of causing strong fire (it currently has a 'good' chance). And if one of those haters still thinks it will be overpowered, then look at the brandish lines... actually look at every other sword line in the game (except for Winmillion and status flourishes).
Also like Draycos said, make Wild Hunting Blade split piercing and normal and Dread Venom Striker split shadow and normal.
Also my thread to re-balance the cutter line if anyone wants to read. xD http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/67998 (shameless advertising)
Thanks for reading my thread... post. I meant post.
Right. It would be OP but i tough we gonna reduce some damage !!
You 'tought' about it but never mentioned it... we can't read your mind....yet.
Just imagine the lag it would cause if all 4 party members had that. Oh boy...
Skyguarder, how'd you know i'm a newcomer? Cuz i haven't set yet an forum picture? Maybe cuz i'm on SK's forum on my iPad instead of my PC.. We can't set an forum picture for our account on a tablet.. Duh!
So you've never accessed the forums on your PC? Ever? I find that pretty unlikely.
You are still a forum nub who doesn't know how to make good suggestions. Get out.
I dont care. I've never accessed SK forums from my PC cuz in my region we've got an internet limit. I can only play on my PC 1 hour per fking day. That sucks. And i just prefer play SK instead of staying on forums you know.. I've just said that FoV would need yo be reworked. If you disagree with my suggestion, shut up and get out of there!
that's not how a suggestion works, buddy. freedom of speech and of opinion, you know.
as for the suggestion, being more "epic" would not benefit for the game. besides, FoV has already been nerfed, and with the reputation of cutters this would practically be a nerf. so it's a no.
Meh! It's your opinion. You're kinda right, and i agree whit that ;)
Why not just make it a fire winmillion?
The FOV already shares the 3 strike combo and from the OP it shoots bullets per swing. Why not go all out and just make it some kind of kick-ass 5-star fire-themed winmillion?
It just seems like a much easier jump than *NEW SUDDEN CUTTER THAT DEALS SPLIT ELEMENTAL/NORMAL THAT ALSO SHOOTS M***ERF***ING BULLETS!!!!"
Cutters need some love, yeah - but with this thing I would never need my DVS ever again.
Yeah... Why not a Fire Winmillion (5*) like Spookington said?
Because the winmillion is a utility weapon. Not an offensive weapon. That is why it ends at 4 stars, it is meant to work more as tool then an actual weapon for pure swordsmen to still be able to hit switches with out bringing a gun.
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First off, nice little Helvetica font mix-up to mask that you just called us all '[goofy]'. How very clever and socially adept of you. I mean, you could have tried to be constructive with your criticism instead, but that would have taken effort now, wouldn't it?
Second, although I agree that it is the current use of both weapons, I personally think the "support weapon" thing is utter bullcrap. "Support weapon" is just lingo made by people on the fly to find use for completely neglected and underpowered weapons so the devs have an excuse not to take the effort to buff or change them towards being actually useful. It's a cop-out excuse never used by the devs themselves (if my memory is correct - actually correct me on this if I'm wrong) or implied anywhere in the game. It means it's a classification made by players based off of observations of a certain weapons being crappy as they currently are. To me, this just means they need some kind of buff or need to be completely re-worked to best fit the niche they were created for.
"Oh, it's not underpowered, you're just using it wrong, uh... see - it's a support weapon! Even though you could just fill the wep slot space with another, more practical weapon, it's good as it is just sitting there, taking up space, doing a less optimal job than everything else. ... Don't buff it, please..."
TBH, there are weapons that work great as side-arms, Valiance being the best example, but having used both cutters and winmillion extensively I know they have potential to be just as useful as the sealed sword and flourish lines.
This suggestion by the OP is bad, I agree; but I felt like elaborating my point further because your manners are abysmal.
I never claimed it was a support weapon. I said it was a utility weapon, that means the weapon has a use that out ways the offensive side of the weapon, now that is similar to support weapons, and most support weapons are utility but the winmillion is not a support weapon. It is meant to give pure swordsmen a ranged weapon for activating switches and attacking things over gaps, as well as a pure damage type so regardless of what level they just entered they have something to deal with the enemies.
If it was a support weapon it would have lower damage and have a massively large chance for stun making it function more as a "get out of a bad situation free" card.
If you are going to get this worked up for me insulting eagle, then I think you need to calm down a bit.
From your logic of "Support weapon is just lingo made by people on the fly to find use for completely neglected and underpowered weapons so the devs have an excuse not to take the effort to buff or change them towards being actually useful." Then do you think the mist bombs need a buff? they are obviously purely support weapons, they all have tiny (direct) damage rings that are not even shown in the charge circle, and most don't even hurt the mobs, it only apply a status effect.
A game can do support weapons right, they obviously have and are still doing it correctly.
Waffleconecake, can you stop posting in my thread please? I mean, you're not helping anymore.. And if you think you can hide one of your phrase because you've insulted someone or something else, you are wrong. "I cant tell you are just acting retarded or something" you said in your previous comment.
Ah, I see I mistook what you meant by "utility" weapon. Yeah, my bad. I'v played other multiplayer-based games where "side arm" and "utility weapon" tend to be interchangeable terms. Being that you were bashing the "fire winmillion" idea and that I was the first one to suggest it I perceived the whole "lol u acting retarded?" thing to be primarily targeting me. I tend to react poorly to undeserved hostility - it's kind of a problem, I'm aware. I still think you're a bit rude, but I see that most of the hostility on my part was rather uncalled for.
For the most part, I totally agree with your description of utility weps - my last post was going to be a full-on text-bombing of every conceivable way the cutter and Spur lines fill out their own niches, a lot of what I was going to say actually syncs with what you just said - but eventually decided it was too farking long to force anyone to bother reading.
The "fire-winmillion thing" was just a placeholder idea. I personally think we have way too many elemental and especially fire status weps in the game already. There are more and better ways to make a 5-star addition to the spur line, but I can't say I wouldn't be interested in a spur or cutter that was all about status-application akin to an alchemer.
Also, regarding that last paragraph: I do think side weapons have a place in the game, I was just too lazy at the time to list anything beyond Valiance.
@Waffle You keep on being offensive on the forums, like telling people to get out. You just called someone a [R-Word]
@OP On a side note, I think that the Winmillion line should stay like that. I think that during the winter, people suggested winbillion, wininfinite, winmillion-5*, etc...
I would suggest Windumbdumb if I was actually forced to suggest a 5* winmillion.
Imagine, a Sudaruska with the speed of a Blitz Needler. Epic? Yes. Balanced? No.
Also, ninjas didn't carry flaming swords. The whole point of being a ninja is stealth.
Flaming objects tend to draw attention.
@ Gent-SoopaKoopa, dude, i just said it like that "being kike a ninja" xD
@ Skyguarder is right Waffle! You always say to evryone to get out. You are so rude.. >:C
@Scramineagle
I reason why I tell people who make terrible/troll suggestions is because I doubt they will provide anything worth while into the suggestion forum. And don't go telling me you asked me to leave when you just directly spoke to me, this is your fault for being me back into this.
@Skyguarder
"@Waffle You keep on being offensive on the forums, like telling people to get out. You just called someone a [R-Word]"
So are you telling me to keep being rude? I honestly don't act this way with everyone, if you don't believe me well what ever.
@Gent-Soopakoopa
You pretty much just summed up everything wrong with this suggestion in 14 words, nice! I also find the next part a good argument as well, just not really necessary.
@Waffle
No, but I never said that. You should at least ignore the thread if it's a troll thread, and let it die.
Nice try in hiding your insult with mashed up text.
while i agree it would be epic its too much for them to reanimate it and all thar but +1 for the fire out of each hit
shotjeer u managed not to make a comment about something i typed ★terrty aplauds★
-1. We don't need any more overpowered weapons, especially one that procs fire on every single flippin' hit, let alone one that hits as fast as a cutter. Did you put any real thought into this? Please make more absurd suggestions though, they're fairly amusing.