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Why we should actually agree with this new patch

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Thu, 05/19/2011 - 14:20
#51
Eshajori
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Just to put this into perspective

For people who keep lying to themselves about how this option "fixes" anything, part of my post from the Dev response thread (#159):

" 'There will be a fee for doing so, roughly equal to the cumulative cost of crafting that item.'

So let me get this straight:

  1. I craft a 2* item up to 5*. This costs me 8900 crowns and 1450CE to do total (without even considering materials).
  2. By his good graces, nick allows me to pay him an amount ROUGHLY EQUAL to this to unbind it and try to sell it.
  3. I've now spent some value "roughly" 17,800 crowns AND 2900CE to get this unbound item (not even including the costs of all the material components, and god knows if that's smashed into your "rough estimate"). You now expect me to SELL this item for a value greater than that...
    ... and you get 10%.
  4. "

So at the current CE rate, that's at LEAST 162,800 crowns I'd have to sell the item for just to break even. But then they'd be taking 16,280 crowns due to the 10% auction fee... so I'd have to sell it for well over that amount to make any profit at all. You think that's happening? Especially when someone could just make the item themselves? And they're "fixing" the market.

Thu, 05/19/2011 - 14:33
#52
Azurenightmare
@Eshajori

NOONE will unbind a 5* item (unless he gets an absolutely amazing/stellar offer... we are talking about more than 10$ worth of CE here). People will unbind 3* and then sell the recipes+mats instead. That's only around 200 CE (the only ones worth unbinding being the token ones) extra cost. With lower recipe prices this seems like the way to go. The only unbind I can see happening higher than that is Faust with extremely good UV (either damage or attackspeed high or better), and even that is unlikely.

Thu, 05/19/2011 - 15:49
#53
Eshajori
Legacy Username
@LoneKnight

Your point? Of course no one will unbind those items, because that deal blows.

"People will unbind 3* and then sell the recipes+mats instead. That's only around 200 CE (the only ones worth unbinding being the token ones) extra cost."

We can assume the price to unbind will be a flat rate based on stars so the token items won't cost any less to unbind.

More importantly though, as your quote says, they'll be the only things "worth" unbinding. This patch was ABOUT balancing the market. Sales are why the Auction House EXISTS. So your answer is that we can all just run Jelly King and sell those specific items? And that's it? Anyone who wants them will have them within a week. I don't understand your rebuttal.

Thu, 05/19/2011 - 15:53
#54
Azurenightmare
I was hinting at that token

I was hinting at that token items are the only items bound at 3*. Other 3* items are unbound since you can make them straight up from 2*.

My point is that this is a terrible system (if they want to achieve their stated goal of keeping stuff rare) and I hope the devs don't go with it if I could find a loophole in a total of 10 minutes of thinking about it.

Thu, 05/19/2011 - 16:20
#55
Kaybol
Legacy Username
@Gigafreak

Yep, that and make crafting your second (supposedly UV) item more expensive -> more rare. It's fully intentional.

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