http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEt0-CXvO9c
Relevant.
Why doesn't Spiral Knights have Co-op Missions?
Thu, 09/12/2013 - 10:46
#6252
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
Thu, 09/12/2013 - 15:22
#6253
It's so true...
There's nothing cooperative at all. Or very little co-op. I can only draw up a few, like how everyone shield-blocks a tile in IMF to prevent mecha spawns on the last part of the 2nd depth. I'd love these puzzles and co-op situations to be added to the game, but the devs would have to consider the fact that sprite attacks could be used as delayed gunshots.
Also, whenever someone has to leave in a multiplayer party, there should be a statue/drone to replace the person so that it can do things like push 4 player blocks or stand on a pressure plate if needed. Drone cannot do combat, but can be lifted/placed on pressure plates. Something like that.
Thu, 09/12/2013 - 20:07
#6254
Puzzles, puzzles everywhere +(900)1
I have also thought we need more Puzzles, like LoZ games. OOO has very few puzzles in the clockworks, we need some more puzzles in CW Tunnels, and possibly a third kind of random floor, Treasure Vaults are lucky, puzzles will be fun (a danger room style loot room at the end), and graveyard as the "challenge /unlucky" one. Of course there is some random regular CWs level in the mix.
Fri, 09/13/2013 - 21:38
#6255
If there were co-op missions,
If there were co-op missions, what happens the people that like to go solo?
Fri, 09/13/2013 - 23:46
#6256
If you hadn't noticed, a lot of the game's content is meant for co-op. It's not like you have to be in a group to defeat Vana or the Roarmies but that's how they were designed to be buttkicked. The SLs are pretty dependent on coordination in the team if you want good results.
Sat, 09/14/2013 - 02:01
#6257
When people can join or leave at any moment, you can't make any puzzles or areas entirely dependent on a specific number of players.
Sat, 09/14/2013 - 02:48
#6258
Answers!
I really like how Krakob completly ignores the very first sentence, Which is why I will completly ignore his comment.
@ Batabii: People can and do leave in all MMO games, yet all MMO games have content that can not be solved alone. It is simply solved by leaving them as it is, unable to go further unless they either find replacement or give up and go back. That's how it works in every other game. Always. Saying "You can't make multiplayer content for a specific number of players" is like saying "WoW, Final Fantasy 11&14, The Secret World and all the other MMOs are following an impossible concept and can not possible be successful".
@ Lightplasma: They spontanously combust into flames that will consume their entire neighborhood and enevtually open portals to hell from which their charred souls will reemerge to tempt others into going on a co-op mission alone until the earth is drowned in the fires of hell.
What do you think will happen with someone who tries to play content for several players alone, hm?
That all aside, yesterday they announced the "challenge mode that will allow players to work as a team in cooperative scenarios and compete with other teams for a high score". It is to bee seen what they mean, but that wording is rather promising.
Sat, 09/14/2013 - 06:54
#6259
@Khamsin
I always use to hate
@Khamsin
I always use to hate getting the com in Dungeon Duos, since I played with 3 people it was like whoever got the com loses.
@El-Ordio How would the levels be created then?
Would the rooms be treasure/heartbox room because what if someone decided to fly solo but was hit by a 2 switch timer?
Since the levels predetermined will they have select "2+/3+/4 player Only Statums?"
Or will it get it's own gate stating it is a group gate?
Possibly a new mineral that corresponds to group stratums?
Sat, 09/14/2013 - 14:58
#6260
That's actually a really easy question
I guess you didn't think much about it, but that's okay, because I am here to take my time and lay out the obvious.
First of, there would be the possibilty to make co-op passages akin to Danger Rooms, but instead of energy it would require two, three or four knights to stand on pressure plates or hit switches at the same time. There are many ways to go about this, but it would be far from difficult, rewarding groups and still offering the comfort of choice.
Second would be that I am calling this thread "...Missions" like in the Missions you access from the Missions menu because it would be the easiest way to just have a section with missions for two, three or four people that tells you how many people you will need (but you can of course bring more, because, hey, why not).
I am sorry, I get really unfriendly after some time in the forums. But really, was that so difficult? What did you think, that I want these passages to be randomly spread about the clockwork without any warning that you might be stuck if you don't bring friends? That I chose to name this "missions" because I want it to be normal puzzle rooms?
Then again, you ARE asking exacly that. Did it make sense to you? Did it seem like something that would make sense to others?
Sun, 09/15/2013 - 02:03
#6261
New stuff. Nick said so.
Hopefully the new challenge mode will fix this.
Sun, 09/15/2013 - 06:22
#6262
+1
I agree, it would be nice to have some genuine co-op content in SK. Depending on the ranking/reward system for Challenge Mode (whatever it ultimately becomes), perhaps we might see some, however I would foresee a lot of complaining from some members of the community for having to... well, cooperate. I think OP's suggestion for a dedicated group of co-op missions for X number of players is the best option--that way those who are specifically interested in co-op gameplay can have their fun, and OOO can avoid snarking from folks who don't want to rely on their teammates randomly running into a co-op level in the CW. Could even be a fun new DLC, call it... The Legend of Alpha Squad, or something--Spiral Order is looking to form a new Alpha Squad to go looking for any evidence of what happened to the original members, players are called on to attend a series of advanced tactical training sessions for Alpha Squad candidates, something goes horribly wrong, mini-boss fight, etc.
don't forget lasers Odio. those are deactivable walls just like gates. exept any level 75+ seraph's user could just walk by, but there are things to counter that. a party button and some gates.
and +1e100000000 to the suggestion.