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New T3 boss - Mega Trotodrone

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Mon, 09/23/2013 - 17:18
Earthboundimmortal's picture
Earthboundimmortal

I think this has been suggested before but probably not the exact same.
So, as some of you know there is a thing called a trotodrone -> http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Tortodrone
So, you also probably know that a new T3 boss is coming out, and here's my idea for what it would be like.
So, first the trotodrone is construct so this is also construct
the path to it will be 4 levels then the boss level.
1st level: It will be a canyon like level with many constructs and boulders falling down a hill.
2nd level: Kinda dark, and many devilites appear, not so many constructs
3rd level: There's a HUGE door and 3 key slots in it and this level will involve puzzles. main enemy: constructs. also a 1 trotodrone miniboss at the end of the level.
4th level: surprisingly short level, but will have to run from a huge boulder going down hill.
Boss level:
a huge stage looking like a trotodrone back, with 1 randomly placed silkwing spawner (spawns 1 if there is no silkwing)
The actual boss!:
A pretty big trotodrone.
5 phases total:
1st phase: Normal trotodrone battle.
2nd phase: It grows another 2 arms on its back and looks mad and extra hands shoot lasers.
3rd phase: Gets the ability to make trotodrones, and starts firing a missile from its head every 6 secs and doesnt stop to shoot the missile (similar to airial missiles in RT)
4th phase:
turns EXTREMELY mad and now does everything it did before, but now can make big vortex bombs (but it has to stand in the same place for 10 sec to charge)
5th phase: explodes into 15 trotodrones, and also has 10 devilites, 5 gremlin demo things.
any suggestions?

Mon, 09/23/2013 - 17:28
#1
Skyguarder's picture
Skyguarder

No.

Mon, 09/23/2013 - 17:35
#2
Little-Juances's picture
Little-Juances

OOO already has a name for you:
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Omega_Shell

Mon, 09/23/2013 - 17:42
#3
Ustrinaferalthorn's picture
Ustrinaferalthorn
....

No.

Mon, 09/23/2013 - 17:52
#4
Earthboundimmortal's picture
Earthboundimmortal
can i have

can i have ideas instead of no?

Mon, 09/23/2013 - 18:17
#5
Ustrinaferalthorn's picture
Ustrinaferalthorn
King Tinkizar

Read this and then read the paragraph.

http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/89951#comment-796737

According to Nick's post, the T3 boss will be following a storyline post-Vana dealing with the Artifact. We took this... thing... radiating a similar energy wave as the Core, not knowing what it does. I think that the Artifact is actually a key, forged by the Core to be given to whichever warrior vanquishes the Void permanently so that they may have full access to its unlimited power source. The key was given to King Tinkizar, who then passed it to Razwog to further investigate and protect. Sometime afterwards, we came in and stole the key from Razwog and now the king is royal p.o'd (no pun intended.)
The campaign missions will start out by reintroducing the Artifact and will say something like, '' Spiral HQ may have finally made a connection between the Artifact and the Core. '' Next, you will be informed that King Tinkizar has sent a horde of his finest fighters to retrieve the Artifact from the Lab, which you must protect at all cost. Afterwards, you'll need to go talk to one of Tinkizar's generals, who will of course not be very willing to share words without a fight. Following this will probably be a few random missions to '' gather more intel and resources '' and '' find schematics '' to the king's throne room. Finally, we go in and fight Tinkizar, but we see that he's been possessed by the Void. The Void took control of him and convinced him to try and open the Core so that it may finally finish what it had started and destroy it. In return, the Void will give Tink more power than he already has, more than he could imagine. Unfortunately, Spiral HQ's medics believe that the power would overwhelm and kill Tinkizar. You must fight Tink and free him from the Void before it's too late.
Once the Void has been driven out of his body, he will say that he had been aware of his actions the past few centuries but lacked the power to control his actions as if he had already been possessed the entire time. He will then explain how he and he Owlites were the original protectors and that he needs to put the Artifact somewhere safe before the Void returns and takes it themselves. That's right! The Void is still alive! The Void used Tink as a substitute, letting him take most of the damage and left when he was just about to die. The true T3 boss is the Void itself! Your mission is to destroy the Void once and for all, and then finally open the Core.
After the Core is opened, there will be a short intermission ;)

Mon, 09/23/2013 - 20:34
#6
Klipik-Forum's picture
Klipik-Forum
But

No one said there could only be one new boss :)

Mon, 09/23/2013 - 20:50
#7
Ustrinaferalthorn's picture
Ustrinaferalthorn
THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE!!!!!!!!

Hehe, but in all seerusness, I think there's only going to be one main boss, but there may be a few mini bosses along the way, like how I said, Tink could be one. (the reason why I think there's only one is because Nick said there's going to be a new t3 boss and devs are usually very careful about their choice of words when they release info) Maybe we could have the Tortrodones and Vog Cubs be others.

Mon, 09/23/2013 - 20:56
#8
Nechrome's picture
Nechrome

Personally, I first thought that the boss would be a Tortodrone, since the new scenario rooms are showing their return and stuff.

But after thinking about it...

"the reason why I think there's only one is because Nick said there's going to be a new t3 boss and devs are usually very careful about their choice of words when they release info"

Like Nep said, a NEW T3 boss. That makes me think that it's something legitely completely NEW. New as in they haven't ever said anything about that kind of stuff before, if you catch my drift. Tortodrones and Vog Cubs and Tinkinzar aren't NEW; I mean, they would be new bosses in the sense that they just came out, but they are old news. Everyone knows about them.

So the new boss would be something that OOO has never told us anything about before or hinted at or anything.

Anyone catching my drift here?

Mon, 09/23/2013 - 21:06
#9
Ustrinaferalthorn's picture
Ustrinaferalthorn
I am...

... but I don't know if the devs will go off-track with something completely different when they already have something that's related to the Artifact on the shelf. I hope not, at least.

Mon, 09/23/2013 - 22:02
#10
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Nechrome

Well, the new boss will be related to the Artifact stuff, but it won't be a monster that we've encountered before or have any prior knowledge of.

._. that sentence I just wrote pretty much summed up what I was trying to say in my original post.

Mon, 09/23/2013 - 22:08
#11
Ustrinaferalthorn's picture
Ustrinaferalthorn
@Lord

I know, but what I was saying is that why would you create an all-new enemy when you already have one that's already linked to the Artifact?

Mon, 09/23/2013 - 22:11
#12
Nechrome's picture
Nechrome

Ah.

What I mean is that the one they already have linked to the Artifact is new in the way that they haven't given us any info on it before. Not make another completely new one. Cause they already have this completely new one linked to the Artifact.

Does that clear things up? It's late where I am, and I'm sleepy so my brain isn't really functioning .-.

Tue, 09/24/2013 - 07:28
#13
Ustrinaferalthorn's picture
Ustrinaferalthorn
...

No... because that's still going away from my point.
There's an enemy already mentioned.
That enemy is already linked to the Artifact.
Therefore, there is no need to create a NEW new enemy, because they already have one they can use.

Tue, 09/24/2013 - 07:59
#14
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Thunder-The-Bright

nepetatheleo, good lore, but we don't know if the artifact is a key or a power source. besides, if it was the key to the core, you would like to investigate near the core, not in a facility in d1 when anyone can access it.

Tue, 09/24/2013 - 08:21
#15
Little-Juances's picture
Little-Juances

If someone cares to click my post, lore says there's something called "tortomega".

Tue, 09/24/2013 - 08:55
#16
Ustrinaferalthorn's picture
Ustrinaferalthorn
@Thunder

Who said they were investigating in d1? I just said that the lab was being attacked. The scientists obviously have been down to the Core investigating, they just keep the Artifact in the lab to make sure it's protected. I know we don't know for sure if it's a key, but we don't really know anything officially so I might as well go with the first logical conclusion and work from there.

@Juances
I read it, but I just don't really think that a tortomega would be the final boss. Maybe a mini boss though.

Tue, 09/24/2013 - 09:29
#17
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Thunder-The-Bright

I was talking about razwog. maybe I should have said that before. besides, razwog it's an engineer. why he whould have a key to the core?

Tue, 09/24/2013 - 10:03
#18
Ustrinaferalthorn's picture
Ustrinaferalthorn
@Thunder

Because he's Tinkizar's chief scientist. I probably should have added in there that when the Core originally crafted the key and gave it to Tinkizar, it said something like, '' When the time comes, you will know what to do with it, '' or something along those lines. Point is, even Tinkizar doesn't know what it does, he just knows it's important. He gave it to Razwog to investigate, which is the same thing we did when we got it (gave it to our top scientists.)

Tue, 09/24/2013 - 10:03
#19
Little-Juances's picture
Little-Juances

Tortodrone->miniboss
Tortomega->boss

Tue, 09/24/2013 - 10:14
#20
Ustrinaferalthorn's picture
Ustrinaferalthorn
@Little-Juances

I just don't see either as a boss. It'd be cool, yeah, but I'd rather have something that will actually have character. Besides, what does a Tortomega have to do with the Artifact?

Tue, 09/24/2013 - 11:03
#21
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Thunder-The-Bright

ah, I found the major flaw in your point.
you see, you think of already relaeased enemies. nick said specifically that the missions on the artifact will give us a new antagonist.
EDIT: this also excludes the tortodrone, and maybe the torrtomega, from the new boss list. maybe. if it's a plot twist like vana, anything can be. this does not invalidate my point up there. the lore upper there is more than a boss.

Tue, 09/24/2013 - 11:08
#22
Ustrinaferalthorn's picture
Ustrinaferalthorn
...

New is a relative word, Thunder. New could mean we haven't formally been introduced, which would support my claim since we haven't had any formal introduction to Tinkizar. It could also mean that it's NEW new, as in nothing that has ever been mentioned officially, but like I said, I don't see the point in creating a new character with a completely new backstory that would somehow relate it to the Artifact when they already have one that hasn't been seen or heard from that already has a connection to the Artifact.

Tue, 09/24/2013 - 11:18
#23
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Thunder-The-Bright

we have like 7 more members of the crimson order and various members of the devilite offices. in fact, forget about the plot twist. it just was to make vana in the story, cause they already had it.

Tue, 09/24/2013 - 11:58
#24
Donald-Jtrump's picture
Donald-Jtrump
no

Why, because an update already said there will be a new boss which they are currently working on.

Tue, 09/24/2013 - 12:24
#25
Little-Juances's picture
Little-Juances

Tortodrones are at least half done since beta. It's not like OOO has to dedicate too much time to it like a true new boss would.

Tue, 09/24/2013 - 13:03
#26
Nechrome's picture
Nechrome

@Nep

Blargh... I'm confused now >.>

Ok, let's start again.

"There's an enemy already mentioned.
That enemy is already linked to the Artifact.
Therefore, there is no need to create a NEW new enemy, because they already have one they can use"

They're going to use the enemy linked to the artifact that has already been mentioned. The one that they already have and can use. What I mean by new is that other than the fact that it's related to the Artifact, we have absolutely no other info on it. Unlike the Tortodrone, Tinkinzar, etc., we already have some info on them. Not this new boss. We don't even know its name.

Tue, 09/24/2013 - 13:25
#27
Ustrinaferalthorn's picture
Ustrinaferalthorn
@LORD

... Do I SEERUSLY have to spell this out to you? Do I need to type SLOWER?
We have UNUSED characters.
THESE characters already have a connection to the Artifact.
There is NO NEED to create ALL NEW characters.
So why, WHY would the devs waste their time and thinking power on creating a new character that is NOT NEEDED? It makes NO SENSE.

Tue, 09/24/2013 - 13:31
#28
Nechrome's picture
Nechrome

No need to get touchy and yell. Yeesh.

So, let's get some things straight.

You are basically saying that the new boss will be a character that we KNOW OF ALREADY. Like Tinkinzar or the Tortos or something. UNUSED BUT KNOWN OF.

I'm saying that the new boss will be a character that WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT OTHER THAN THAT IT'S RELATED TO THE ARTIFACT. A BRAND NEW CHARACTER.

Tue, 09/24/2013 - 14:01
#29
Ustrinaferalthorn's picture
Ustrinaferalthorn
You still don't get it, do you?

There is no need to create a new character if there are already available characters to use that are already linked to the Artifact and have a good reason to be the new boss given circumstances. It's just plain stupid to waste time create something new when we haven't even been able to have any experience with something that's already been created.

Tue, 09/24/2013 - 14:11
#30
Nechrome's picture
Nechrome

You don't get it either, do you -_-

"It's just plain stupid to waste time create something new when we haven't even been able to have any experience with something that's already been created."

Define 'created.' Created as in the idea is there, or they actually created stuff for it already but haven't put it in-game, or what?

OK, so from now on SK will no longer be releasing any content that gives out new lore and characters, cause it won't make sense to 'waste time creating something new.' We'll just stick with the stuff we have for now. No new Crimson Order members, cause it'll take time to create them. No expanding on the Swam and the Core, cause we'll have to create new monsters and lore to do so. We'll just connect everything we have with each othe from now on, even if it doesn't make much sense. Basil = The Swarm? Seems legit. Nonna = Crimson Guard member? Sure, why not (actually, that does seem like a legit idea. A double-agent in Emberlight). The Owlites didn't actually exist cause there's nothing else to connect them to? OK.

SO THERE'S STUFF AND ENEMIES THAT THEY HAVE THAT THEY HAVEN'T DEVELOPED AND RELEASED YET. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY CAN'T GIVE OUT NEW AND DIFFERENT CONTENT.

Tue, 09/24/2013 - 14:37
#31
Ustrinaferalthorn's picture
Ustrinaferalthorn
You know what?

Forget it. I'm not going to waste my time convincing you why this is stupid. You're just a waste of my time.

Tue, 09/24/2013 - 14:56
#32
Nechrome's picture
Nechrome
Honestly, I've lost track over what we're arguing about.

/slow applause

Well, if you refuse to explain to me what I'm seem to keep missing, that's your choice.

But I will continue on, even if you think I'm just a waste of time. If you're gonna speak to me like that, I think you're a waste of time too <3 but whatevs. I'm sure you don't care what a waste of time thinks of you. A waste of time isn't worth your time to think about, right? Don't waste your time on a waste of time.

In all legitness, I'm actually trying to have a civilized debate/conversation/argument here. Sure, caps lock in my previous posts, but I was blowing off some steam. So sue me. Also, YOU STARTED IT (+1 for immature retorts :D) in post 27 with the indirect insults.

So, far as I can tell, you're saying that this new boss will be, what, a creature we already know of.

"There is no need to create a new character if there are already available characters to use that are already linked to the Artifact and have a good reason to be the new boss given circumstances."

Here, I assume you are speaking of Tinkinzar, since he seems to be linked to the Artifact according to your lore that you typed up. Well, unless they already have a character model and stuff for Tinkinzar, they'll still need to spend time creating him. Sure, they have lore on him. Lore is easy to create (I can only speak for my self, anyway). Either way, they'll still have to start on him from scratch. If you're not talking about Tinkinzar, then who the carbcakes are you talking about?

What I'm saying here is, the new boss is a boss that we have no prior knowledge of (other than that it's related to the artifact), so it's 'new.' Still related to everything, 'has a good reason to be the new boss under given circumstances,' all that jazz. But new. Like brand new, just released content that we haven't had a preview of. Simple as that.

Does this clear things up?

No?

Figures.

I'm not expecting a reply, since, you know, I'm just a waste of your time.

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