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Wed, 10/23/2013 - 10:36
Thalia's picture
Thalia
Game Master

Today's release notes can be found here: http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/91276

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 10:43
#1
Poetry's picture
Poetry
"- You can now revive early

"- You can now revive early in Coliseum games using Sparks of Life."

Boo :(

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 12:04
#2
Bookmarkmayne
Where are the radiant fire

"- Adjusted drop rates for Sparks of Life and Orbs of Alchemy"

Where are the radiant fire crystal drop rate changes?

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 10:57
#3
Momofuku's picture
Momofuku
Specs on the new

Specs on the new gun/sword/bomb? Are they reskins of existing weapons or are they different?

(Also why did Acheron need a buff?)

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 10:47
#4
Orbwanter's picture
Orbwanter

Ah yes, the long-awaited Acheron buff is finally here.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 10:47
#5
Yvanblo's picture
Yvanblo
Cool!

Sweet! I like it! Thanks for the update! Can't wait to try out the new mission!

shut up complainers... If you don't like the game, stop playing.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 10:49
#6
Daili's picture
Daili
"Adjusted" drop rates of

"Adjusted" drop rates of spark of life and orbs of alchemy?
Are they rarer that Radiant crystals in Tier 3 now?

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 10:50
#7
Exerpa's picture
Exerpa
So nothing new about the

So nothing new about the harvest itself?

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 10:52
#8
Forum-Alfred's picture
Forum-Alfred
There will always be those who only see the dark side...

And why complain, we're finally getting a new T3 boss! This is gonna be awesome! =P

Edit: @ Exerpa, the harvest is also being updated with the new boss, read the IGM ^_^

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 13:02
#9
Khamsin's picture
Khamsin
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Wed, 10/23/2013 - 10:55
#10
Daili's picture
Daili
@Exerpa

Nope. Same items as last year.
No extra items, nothing new. Zip. Nada.
It's exacty the way it was last year...
Except it was shortened a week due to money not going into Nick's wallet.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 10:55
#11
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Sir-Greenlink
'Now, if you'll excuse me,

'Now, if you'll excuse me, I've recently acquired quite a curious relic from a lost era of history.' I'm not sure if this is hinting at a rare item like the Book of Dark Rituals or if Nick's just had too much spaghetti...

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 10:55
#12
Lanieu's picture
Lanieu
Radiants? ...otherwise....is

Radiants?

...otherwise....is work over yet????

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 10:57
#13
Wolfe-Knight's picture
Wolfe-Knight
Hmm

Woot Acheron buff (it deserved it for not having a status, see alch guns for a good example). I am hoping that after the halloween event is over the Shroud of the Apocrea becomes a normal prestige mission (this way you can still be able to get the weapons).

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:22
#14
Reqy
Acheron didnt need a buff i

Acheron didnt need a buff i dont think. l always felt the brandishes were a bit too powerful already.
and I really really enjoyed not having any type of early revs in Lockdown.

Other than that, i can't wait.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:11
#15
Petater's picture
Petater
Acheron did feel slightly underpowered

Eeh, Acheron needed a tweak. I found myself using a combuster at jelly king instead of my Acheron one too many times.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:12
#16
Nick's picture
Nick
Developer
The Obsidian weapons earned

The Obsidian weapons earned in Shroud of the Apocrea are new items, much like the Black Kat event items.

These weapons are very difficult to acquire during one event and will likely require players to gain them over time. Apocrean Sigils never expire. The Shroud of the Apocrea mission will return in the future, though there's no telling what machinations the Apocrea will have crafted by then.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:16
#17
Xtweeterx's picture
Xtweeterx
I take it this new mission is

I take it this new mission is gonna end up and come back like the Black kats? Also, does this mean sparks and craft orbs are even RARER now? Because I was doing jelly king and RT's back and forth and got 3 elites in like 9 alterations.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:19
#18
Capt-Chopper's picture
Capt-Chopper
>:C

You guys really have a terrible sense of balance if you are buffing the acheron of all weapons in this game that are heavily handicapped.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:23
#19
Petater's picture
Petater
The orb ratio is off

I just find it awkward to have more eternals than any other kind of orb. It should be so eternals drop at strata 6 only

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:24
#20
Nick's picture
Nick
Developer
Using sparks of life in the

Using sparks of life in the Coliseum will function in the same manner as it did when you could revive early with energy. The only difference is that now you revive early with a spark of life instead of escalating energy costs.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:28
#21
Petater's picture
Petater
Hmm true

I mean, that messes up game balance, but monetarily with real money I could see early revives funding the game. Often I see vh UV crafting as a one time deal, but revives are never one time only.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:29
#22
Bitsbee's picture
Bitsbee

"All contents of the Obsidian Prize Box are unbound. Full details can be found here."

Nick, y u lie about having a page in the Wiki?

:(

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:31
#23
Xtweeterx's picture
Xtweeterx
@Petater

You also have more eternals than any other orb? ERRMAHVERG WE'RE BROS4LEIF!"

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:32
#24
Glacies's picture
Glacies

Since my topic was deleted ahem...

I have some questions, Nick:

'Weapons:
- Obsidian Edge, 5* sword
- Obsidian Crusher, 5* bomb
- Obsidian Carbine, 5* handgun'

Are these reskinned equipment? Such as The Bitter End was a Reskin of the Grey Owlite Shield?

"- 25% chance for all Obsidian Prize Boxes to also contain Shadow Accessories"

Does this mean that there is a confirmed new type of accessory? Such as, 'Shadow Maid Headband' etc? Or are they the current Shadow variants? (Shadow Dragon Wings, Shadow Valk. Wings, etc)

"- An effect is now played when learning a recipe"

I'm disappointed that I can't see this as I have every single recipe learned.

And lastly:

"Successfully completing Shroud of the Apocrea solo is very difficult and it is advised you attempt this mission with a party"

IS THIS A CHALLENGE?

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:34
#25
Khamsin's picture
Khamsin
.

Using sparks of life in the Coliseum will function in the same manner as it did when you could revive early with energy. The only difference is that now you revive early with a spark of life instead of escalating energy costs.

But escalating energy costs made players more and more hesitant to use revives. Whereas for many players, Sparks of Life are "free", meaning that for at least as long as those reserves last, they'll continuously come immediately off respawn.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:34
#26
Blacksunshine
Is the update live or not? I

Is the update live or not? I don't see any changes in my game.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:36
#27
Poetry's picture
Poetry
@ Nick

Reviving during lockdown is a luxury that really only benefits a handful of wealthy, damage obsessed players :(

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:37
#28
Xtweeterx's picture
Xtweeterx
@Glacies

"IS THIS A CHALLENGE?" I think it is...

@Poetry: Or a FSC fixated junkie like me

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:38
#29
Darkcub's picture
Darkcub
Nick CE rev no please , ld is

Nick CE rev no please , ld is very funny atm ... CE rev back no .

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:39
#30
Petater's picture
Petater
@poetry

Meh, any sparks I have I use on reviving people in a PvE run. I feel like I'm cheating if I use revives at LD

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:40
#31
Daili's picture
Daili
Dat Ingurish.

Dat Ingurish.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:40
#32
Sir-Greenlink's picture
Sir-Greenlink
@Blacksunshine The server

@Blacksunshine The server hasn't gone down for an update just yet. It will do so in approximately 27 minutes and then your game will start updating. Good luck waiting. :)

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:42
#33
Nick's picture
Nick
Developer
Glacies: Regarding the

Glacies:

Regarding the weapons, they are not identical in function to any weapon currently in the game, no.

Regarding the shadow accessories, they are an extension of the few shadow accessories that have already been released. There is now a full set of shadow accessories, including wings and such released before available in the Obsidian Prize Box.

Regarding 'is this a challenge,' yes, it most certainly is :)

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:45
#34
Bleyken's picture
Bleyken

@Darknub ahahahahhahahahahhahahaahahahahahahhahahahahhahaha

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:46
#35
Jendar-Nox's picture
Jendar-Nox
...

Why are the new weapons difficult to obtain? Are they just extremely rare? or they are heavily guarded?

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:47
#36
Canine-Vladmir's picture
Canine-Vladmir
whoa whoa whoa

So is there a boss? or no?
and isnt rank 4-1 for three star players? Why are there weapons 5* then?

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:50
#37
Glacies's picture
Glacies

Nick: Thanks for answering! All I have left to say is...

Challenge accepted: BRING IT ON!

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:51
#38
Reto-Da-Liz's picture
Reto-Da-Liz

Great idea bringing back revives in lockdown. Totally, absolutely genius.

/clap

Yes, I'm sarcastic.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:52
#39
Exerpa's picture
Exerpa
A full set of shadow

A full set of shadow accessories? Including the wolver tail?
Is shadow now a legitimate style that will be integrated into standard iron lockboxes?

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:53
#40
Retequizzle's picture
Retequizzle
"- You can now revive early

"- You can now revive early in Coliseum games using Sparks of Life."

Yeah, I'm done with SK and the Coliseum. So after this prestige thing's done, I'm probably taking a break.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 11:58
#41
Flowchart's picture
Flowchart

I think a better sink would have been to be able to use them to bribe King Krogmo with

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 12:01
#42
Poetry's picture
Poetry
@ Flowchart

+1 for Flowchart.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 12:27
#43
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
When you're this swag this world just bows at your knees

People on this thread whining about Energy Revives

EDIT: Changed it to something more insinuating because Bitsbee has a dull sense of irony/humour

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 12:12
#44
Kamishinlnoyari's picture
Kamishinlnoyari
It looks beautiful but...

Acheron buff?! Yeah, it must deal more damage because it doesn't inflict a status, but OOO could just nerf the Elemental Brandishes. There's not much difference between a Brandish and a Ban Stick. Everything becomes even more pointless when you OHKO everything... Now buff Chaos-it doesn't give ASI, and nerf Iron Slug because it's OP...

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 12:15
#45
Bitsbee's picture
Bitsbee

"People on this thread..."

Wouldn't that include you?

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 12:13
#46
Dravor's picture
Dravor
Well the run in and combo

Well the run in and combo groups play style will rise. Since reviving is faster than actually going back to heal and nets more reward then trying to stay alive and playing defensively. And now no escalating revive prices will allow players to continuously revive at a "low" cost. Say 10 revives now would only cost 200 energy compared to the 3582 energy it cost before.

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 12:16
#47
Klipik-Forum's picture
Klipik-Forum

"The daylight, the starlight; all hope is merely waiting for their dark shroud to return this cosmic play to its primordial black."

Thor: Dark World anyone? >_>

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 12:24
#48
Zero-Tix
Drop rate or Drop Hate?

Plz, what with the Orbs and Sparks drop rate??

More or less???

I cant see this answer in all this topic

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 12:24
#49
Canine-Vladmir's picture
Canine-Vladmir
Return of the Long Downloads!

Downloading data...
70% complete
306:25 remaining

Wed, 10/23/2013 - 12:30
#50
Jendar-Nox's picture
Jendar-Nox
...

Goddamnit, just look at the gate map of this mission...

WE ENTER THE CORE

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=188369747

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