Spiral Knights - Argent Peacemaker vs Silversix

Argent Peacemaker vs Silversix

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Wed, 11/13/2013 - 03:04

Magmabubble

No, that is not a typo. Yes, I am asking about the 5* vs the 4*!

Okay, so I have a silversix and I REALLY wanna get an AP (after I get other weps as I only have 5* elemental + dark retrib). However, I don't see the point in it that much...

http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Silversix says 127 in Stratum 6 against undead and http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Argent_Peacemaker says 143 for Argent Peacemaker (Yes, it does say the table is incorrect, but I have no other AP damage sources).

So basically, to upgrade from silversix to ap (I just came back from 1 year break, so I have very low rarities; meaning that this upgrade is still as expensive as before for me), I only gain 16 damage per hit?

I know that 16 * 6 = 96, but that doesn't seem enough to me.

So my question is (I know it may sound stupid):
Is the upgrade worth it? Or should it just be something to do when you have the extra orbs and mats?
OR if the damage table really is wrong... How much damage does the AP actually do to undead in stratum 6? (Looking at max possible damage)

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 05:14

Kamishinlnoyari

@OP

I'll test AP's damage ASAP.
And no, don't upgrade your Silversix until 5* fire crystals are back.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 07:28

Kathrine-Dragon

If you're going to upgrade, do it for the bird.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 08:11

Bopp

parts are correct

The depth-28 values for AP may be incorrect (I don't know), but the depth-24 values are correct. They match the Lancer Knightz data:
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Lancer_Knightz_(Guild)/Handgun_Damage_(Depth_19)
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Lancer_Knightz_(Guild)/Handgun_Damage_(Depth_24)
Does that help you decide? For what it's worth, my advice is to wait for the impending gun update. Or, if you must get a 5-star elemental gun now, then get Nova Driver or Storm Driver.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 14:04

Magmabubble

Kamishinlnoyari: I noticed a

Kamishinlnoyari: I noticed a lack of 5* crystals. What happened? And thanks!
Bopp: Whats the impending gun update? And thanks for the damage tables! I don't need a 5* elemental, I'm not going to get AP for a while even if it is worth the upgrade.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 20:38

Bopp

impending gun update

The impending gun update is announced here:

http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/90696

We still don't know exactly when it will happen, though. You might try searching Google for something like "gun update site:forums.spiralknights.com" for more threads.

Thu, 11/14/2013 - 09:52

Kamishinlnoyari

Finally, found some time to shoot a Monster!

113 damage vs. Constructs, 127 damage vs. Undead (because of the Med. bonus)- D24

Fri, 11/15/2013 - 20:27

Magmabubble

So the upgrade is essentially

So the upgrade is essentially worthless?

Sat, 11/16/2013 - 05:05

Kamishinlnoyari

If it was a Magnus, the upgrade would be worthless because it has only 2-bullets magazine and such a small difference wouldn't help you. BUT Antiguas are fast and have a large magazine so that +20 damage will greatly increase your DPS. Bonus damage is very important for fast weapons. And AP has Undead Med damage bonus, while Silversix has Low.
You must just wait for the 5* crystals.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 00:31

Magmabubble

96 damage over 6 shots. As I

96 damage over 6 shots. As I said originally, I don't feel like that's enough for an upgrade; I feel it would be better for an upgrade when I have an excess of orbs (never)

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