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Thu, 11/14/2013 - 06:29
Scirio's picture
Scirio

Heed my words OOO, you might lose your crowd otherwise.

Here's a list of stuff you have yet to unscrew:

-Acheron OP.

-Radiants.

-The insane pola abuse.

-While wearing full snarb, someone still managed to freeze lock me somehow with shiv for an entire match. Because the blast does no damage to break the ice, I wasn't able to dash out. What the boner is this crap.

-Matchmaking is the worst I have ever seen. How is there no match starting with 14 waiting? In fact, how do I still get delayed while I press play again in a match, but somehow 8 random people in that same match don't. That's some premium bs right there.

-A side blade does not go on the side but on the back? What the crap?

-That insane 10% fee when I sell expensive stuff on ah.

-Bechamel destroying my gear.

-Vendors trying to give me 50cr for a 5* recipe.

-I really REALLY miss my mist bar.

Feel free to add your own stuff.

Thu, 11/14/2013 - 06:36
#1
Bitsbee's picture
Bitsbee
"-A side blade does not go on

"-A side blade does not go on the side but on the back? What the crap?"

I'm assuming this is supposed to be similar to a Sidearm.


A small weapon, such as a pistol, carried at the side or waist.

Thu, 11/14/2013 - 06:40
#2
Il-Mono-Il's picture
Il-Mono-Il
Hehehehe

Full Snarb gives you +6 Freeze protection.

Shiver immunity comes with +7.

You got trolled xD

Besides that, +1 to itens 7 and 9.

Thu, 11/14/2013 - 06:55
#3
Vivideus's picture
Vivideus
1. Polaris isn't OP. But the

1. Polaris isn't OP. But the lag it makes on my screen is.
If freeze Polaris and fire Polaris has a considerably less demanding animation, maybe I'd accept them into Lockdown xD

2. Lockdown is obviously broken. There's 0 synergy between Strikers, Guards and Recons; unless the Recon is a very, very nice bomber that manages to never die. Guard shield nearly useless since the owner can't catch up with the main Striker squad; only useful in some capping/Pola war scenarios, but otherwise suffers so heavily from its low ganking capacity. Taking into account that after a certain patch, I find myself able to eat three GF combos at the same instance...

3. Ezho OP. Vokster OP. Too much OP people I can't play against! (OK this is a response to my 'buff Minimeta' complaint)

4. Chaos is so broken I can't describe. On the other hand, it enables the combination of virtually any four weapons on a Striker (ok, just make Strikers better and able to replace a bomber's role xD)

5. OOO, please fix your servers. Please fix your lag. Please set up a nice server. Please...I dunno what to say.

6. Actually, we could really use a DotA-styled Lockdown. But that would probably come out...next century. Yikes.

Thu, 11/14/2013 - 07:00
#4
Scirio's picture
Scirio
OOO has no idea what they're doing.

Fire pola + ice pola + normal pola + supernova will be rainbow spammed to oblivion.

Thu, 11/14/2013 - 07:36
#5
Iamnoone's picture
Iamnoone
They have lost much of their crowd already.

They have lost much of their crowd already. They lost me too. I refuse to play this game until they make it fun again and stop disrespecting their customers. And all of you who will try to tell me that being forced to grind FSC a million times a day, don't bother. I think sitting here and stabbing my hand with a knife might have a higher entertainment value.

OOO's has ruined my game and forced me off of SK and onto another game site.

(edit to add)
And they do know what they are doing. They have shanked the alts they originally allowed mistakenly believing all of you wouldn't take advantage of it to the level of not needing to financially support them with all your multi-accounting and bots. Then carrying it to manipulating the market, ah and guilds. Driving inflation up on rare items. They believed it would be easier and more cost effective to allow you more than one account rather than trying to keep you from cheating and putting them in positions of having to block ISP's of large networks like schools and colleges which block good users who may possibly pay to play. You asked them to remove the mist. You wanted to play more for free ignoring they are professionals running a business. They are trying to keep you happy. You are trying to scam them into paying to make/run a game for you to play for free forever. You don't care about them and their families or if they can eat. You just want them to work for free so you can play for free. Yes, they've made a lot of mistakes and have faults here but so do the users. Don't attack and insult them when they have given you what you asked for or responded to the shady crap you do. You can make this game fail as much as they can. The negatively posted on this forum and elsewhere and your beat down of noobs only guarantees this games failure because you have no influx of new users as the veterans of the game leave for all of the reasons people move on in life. You will reap the product of the seeds you sow.

Thu, 11/14/2013 - 07:17
#6
Bitsbee's picture
Bitsbee

Can I have your stuff?

Thu, 11/14/2013 - 08:07
#7
Skayeth's picture
Skayeth
@Scirio

I can tell this guy is a lockdowner. I agree that people should remove the radiant drought, and probably lower the polaris' spam, but one shouldn't argue and complain so much..... Your portrait especially makes me feel like you're really angry...

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 04:12
#8
Demonlust's picture
Demonlust
hmmm

Fire pola + ice pola + normal pola?

why not happy polla? (in case u dont know, google it, warning:NSFW)

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 04:46
#9
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
When you're this swag this world just bows at your knees

While wearing full snarb, someone still managed to freeze lock me somehow with shiv for an entire match. Because the blast does no damage to break the ice, I wasn't able to dash out. What the boner is this crap

And you didn't think to call out to your teammates for help?

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 22:03
#10
Fshuolong's picture
Fshuolong
@Vivideus

Surely you got some points.

"1. Polaris isn't OP. But the lag it makes on my screen is.
If freeze Polaris and fire Polaris has a considerably less demanding animation, maybe I'd accept them into Lockdown xD"

They are a Trolling Gun for Jemps.

"2. Lockdown is obviously broken. There's 0 synergy between Strikers, Guards and Recons; unless the Recon is a very, very nice bomber that manages to never die. Guard shield nearly useless since the owner can't catch up with the main Striker squad; only useful in some capping/Pola war scenarios, but otherwise suffers so heavily from its low ganking capacity. Taking into account that after a certain patch, I find myself able to eat three GF combos at the same instance..."

I always been struggle to get of the heavy slams.

"3. Ezho OP. Vokster OP. Too much OP people I can't play against! (OK this is a response to my 'buff Minimeta' complaint)"

Alot of us can't defeat OP users,it takes ALOT of practise for users who suck at LD or live outside of the USA Servers.

"4. Chaos is so broken I can't describe. On the other hand, it enables the combination of virtually any four weapons on a Striker (ok, just make Strikers better and able to replace a bomber's role xD)"

Not to mention that,Chaos set seem make you OP but not unless you avoid those "Status".

"5. OOO, please fix your servers. Please fix your lag. Please set up a nice server. Please...I dunno what to say."

Yup..That's..What does the Users said.Been getting Red Dot of death,barely get a Yellow Bars.

"6. Actually, we could really use a DotA-styled Lockdown. But that would probably come out...next century. Yikes."

e_e What...That...Gonna be interesting.. =3

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 01:35
#11
Blue-Flood's picture
Blue-Flood

@Iamnoone

Totally agree with your edit. I think I was one of the few coming up that never had an alt. My reasoning was I was myself and that's how the game was meant to be played... That and I always felt a bit of resentment when someone would invite me on a run saying "Can you help me and my alt beat this area?". That being said, I wish they hadn't added the name change option. Especially for GMs who might have blacklisted certain people from their guilds.

...And there are plenty of complaints on this thread and forums in general for me to add any more!

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 03:38
#12
Terra-Necro's picture
Terra-Necro
Actually, once that fire

Actually, once that fire polaris comes out, I'll probably use it more than the shock one. I still favor higher dps over shock. I've always hated the lack of knockback from the annoying status. The only bad thing is that supernova will be outshown in terms of knockback when the gunner update comes along.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 05:21
#13
Poopsie's picture
Poopsie
...

10% tax from AH is actually just fine. That's the cost of having easy trade with people, without you keep screaming, bargaining etc.

Shock lags more than other status for old computers indeed. Shock is similar gremlin bombs move. Now imagine volt edge charge on vortex is like a gremlin throwing 30 bombs at once.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 06:04
#14
Scirio's picture
Scirio
@Hexzyle

Ofc I asked my team,

BUT just like most of today's butthurt raging retards in LD they kept damage hogging instead of actually playing like a team, so I was forced to leave.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 06:13
#15
Cmeresweetheart's picture
Cmeresweetheart
After reading your entire

After reading your entire post about not knowing the difference between a feature and a bug I facepalmed so hard that I broke my nose, and for your information I have a lot of lawyers in my side and I will get you to court and get all of your money, energy and crowns.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 06:32
#16
Msaad's picture
Msaad

Iamnoone has taken the words right out of my mouth.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 08:38
#17
Scirio's picture
Scirio
Oh no no no. @Iamnoone

I was more than content with the old mist system. Sure crafting took a while, but when you finally got your gear ready it was an amazing moment.

How long it took to craft a weapon fully depended on the funds you had at your disposal, making it more of a journey when you were a beginning player and less and less intensive as you ranked up. This allowed 5* players to craft more gear without having to grind endlessly for radiants, orbs bla bla bla, and I know you can buy orbs in the depot, but honestly, who would want to buy them if you have the option of finding them instead. An no, rich players still don't have any advantage here since they obviously still have to go through the horrible forge system.

So, Mr Iamknowitall, before you come here accusing me, or the community whatever, of asking for these features. Use your brain and realize OOO just does whatever the crap they feel like, i.e. no one asked for the forge, so what makes you think anyone asked for mist removal in return for this broken unbalanced system. I don't think you put any thoughts into your arguments, because if you had, you would've come up with this possibility in addition to your own (horrible) opinion.

Lastly, since it's their job, the least they can do is do it right. If you don't take your job seriously, give me any reason why I should then? I am aware that it's a free game but your arguments make no sense. For example, how would you like it if Youtube (which you probable use...for free.) decides that the only way you are able to view vids is upside down in black and white with no sound. Would suck right? But hey, according to your logic they are justified to do so and if you don't like it you should just stop using Youtube, because after all, it's free. That's some premium bs right there mate.

As I said in a previous post, OOO staff is far too distant from the SK community and act more like online police officers than actual GMs and devs. But hey what do I know, I'm just a free user who doesn't care and doesn't know what he's talking about right?

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 08:23
#18
Lanieu's picture
Lanieu
Old UI.Crown Count is gone

Old UI.

Crown Count is gone from visible UI

Crown Count is gone from visible UI

Crown Count is gone from visible UI

Crown Count is gone from visible UI

Crown Count is gone from visible UI

And the Forge system is utter poop.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 09:25
#19
Onekone's picture
Onekone
- Bring back mist battery

- Bring back mist battery (because why not. It also would make energy doors less waste of money. And to think, with free elevators I play even lesser than I played with not-free. But then, it's maybe because game is wearing out for me)
- ... mist crafting (it will also bump down prices a bit, I mean, 7K for a fricking common-2*? Back when they costed at max 3K?)
- ... health revives (ruined teamplay for me, and no, I know about that clusterduck of a explosions that Zeddy and his crew once recorded, I'm not convinced)
- Undo* Forge (wasn't good idea then, isn't good thing now)
- ... instanced loot (or at least make so you autoget loot when you alive and need to pick up ones that dropped while you were dead)
- ... Alchemy Orbs (optionally; considering how you basically now can't find 1-4* ones, it's basically same as energy crafting)
- Give option to undo UI revamp (because eh, I can tolerate new one, but old one was better and smaller)

- Make a level editor (I can't take 4 packs of recolored levels and 5 bosses anymore)

- Properly balance gear (Wolver, new gear, Chaos and Acheron [and to think that I have CTR:High Acheron...] better than most of current gear)
- Look at list of found bugs and fix them

* Arguments "They spend time on that" is not an excuse for making that causes troubles

> mistakenly believing all of you wouldn't take advantage
It's human nature, what did you expect? You need to make exploit-proof system without restricting people to the point where it's not fun and not believe in honesty.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 10:37
#20
Spiruy's picture
Spiruy
Seerusly

Tldr;
Mah Raidients.
/thread

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:44
#21
Skyguarder's picture
Skyguarder

"While wearing full snarb, someone still managed to freeze lock me somehow with shiv for an entire match. Because the blast does no damage to break the ice, I wasn't able to dash out. What the boner is this crap."

Compare the Skolver and Snarbolax sets. If you hate having someone to freeze-lock you, get a Skolver set.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 00:21
#22
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
When you're this swag this world just bows at your knees

BUT just like most of today's butthurt raging retards in LD they kept damage hogging instead of actually playing like a team, so I was forced to leave.

Well then that's a problem with you playing on pubs and not bringing the right equipment. Carry an Ash of Agni or Voltaic Tempest and hit them back.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 02:09
#23
Scirio's picture
Scirio
That's the dumbest comment I've seen all day.

Seriously.

How was I supposed to know there would be a shiv bomber eh? Should I ALWAYS carry ash or VT with me everywhere I go just in case someone brings a shiv? I couldn't switch gear after being locked since you know... I was locked. Things are not as simple as 'just bringing other gear'.

Point is, this shouldn't even be possible, not everyone out there is able to bring a loadout that counters EVERY possible situation. That's just bad balancing on OOO's part, why is it even allowed to shiv lock people in the first place, I'd imagine OOO can see it's not even remotely fun for anyone to get locked in. Or did their brains just melt from all the radiants they ate?

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 14:25
#24
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
When you're this swag this world just bows at your knees

So you're just going to ignore Monocelha's comment?

I'm going to share with you a secret that nobody else knows about:
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Warm_Hearthstone_Pendant

Anyway, if your team truly was ignoring your pleas for help, either you were on a team full of complete imbeciles (and you probably wouldn't have won anyway since they're all focused on damage instead of caps or anything actually team-related) or you did something terrible and deserved whatever fate beset you :P

What's the alternative, anyway? You haven't suggested anything, the thread title is basically all this thread is. Whining about crap without actually putting any thought into fixing it.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 16:26
#25
Skayeth's picture
Skayeth
OMG GUYS EVERYTHING IS

OMG GUYS EVERYTHING IS TOOOOOOO OVERPOWER-WAIT NEWSFLASH KID FREAKIN RADIANTS- really?

Wed, 11/20/2013 - 03:34
#26
Scirio's picture
Scirio
These kids.

Hex, I'm not sure if you are blind, but I told you already that it is impossible to have a loadout that counters every possible situation. Besides that, the title clearly states this is a thread summarizing all the complaints of individual threads over the past few weeks. Seemed more logical to me to have them in one place instead of spread all over the forums.

And annilaton, I really have no idea what the point and meaning behind your comment is. Please try again when you can form proper sentences and clearly know what point your are trying to make. After observing you on the forums it's pretty clear you have either nothing usefull to say and therefore flood the forums with bs or that you geniunely think you are funny, in which case I suggest you revise your jokes.

Wed, 11/20/2013 - 04:43
#27
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
When you're this swag this world just bows at your knees

You don't even need to change your slots, just go guardian and you'll be freeze immune. Why do you think people mostly have skolver?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e31OSVZF77w&t=4m22s
Champion A: Shivermist Buster users
Champion B: Skolver Wearers, and Snarbolax Wearers with a low freeze UV, 3* Hearthstone or with a Guardian class mod
Champion C: Voltaic Tempest users (also counters champion A if they are not wearing shock immune gear)

Wed, 11/20/2013 - 05:03
#28
Scirio's picture
Scirio
Oh come on, are you serious?

I am not adressing the sole fact that I got frozen. Getting frozen is not the problem, the problem is that nobody can see the future so nobody can tell what they're up against. Which would mean there's lots of tactics that could easily, EASILY, E A S I L Y, be exploited to force other players to leave their match and ruin their experience, that's some premium bs right there. In my case, the only option was to either endure 7 minutes of not being able to move, or leave my freaking match. And I am sure there are other cases in which players have their experience ruined by people who exploit screw ups from OOO.

If this doesn't make it clear that it's not about my sole case of being shiv locked but rather about the ability of ruining the experience of other players, I don't know what will.

Wed, 11/20/2013 - 05:25
#29
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
When you're this swag this world just bows at your knees

What you are trying to say, and what the biggest issue actually is, is that, even though the shivermist is balanced as it has a weakness that renders it absolutely useless in most situations that balances its usefulness, when not countered, it's too useful.
It's like if the Heavies' KGB caused permadeath to anyone it killed provided that the opposing team did not have a medic with a non-stock weapon equipped.
It's like in a game of heads and tails if your $2 coins always showed up heads when your opponent was wearing a white shirt, else it always showed up tails

You still haven't suggested a fix though, which is what I'm waiting for. We can cry over spilt milk all we like, but if noone actually cleans it up, we're still left with a smelly rotting puddle of dairy.

Wed, 11/20/2013 - 05:53
#30
Scirio's picture
Scirio
Ignorant little...

As I told you before. As I freaking told you before. As I frigging told you before, the point of this thread is to SUMMARIZE the amount of complaints etc in this game, if you want solutions go somewhere else. I get the feeling you don't read before you comment. The title is clear. How can you possibly be this ignorant.

The whole point behind this thread was for people to drop their complaints in one single thread instead of each making their own threads complaining about the same things over and over again, I'm tired of seeing so many of the same threads. This was an attempt to clean up the general discussion section and make room for other things, not for me to argue with little kids who think their 'briliant' solution is gonna save the day all the while their balls have yet to drop. Thanks for screwing it up man, no seriously, you should be proud of yourself.

Wed, 11/20/2013 - 05:59
#31
Onekone's picture
Onekone
@Hexzyle

Invincibility frames for status effects? Extra 1 damage blast that frees catched enemies (dash out would be enough) before refreezing? Having big guardian shield blow ice away?

Wed, 11/20/2013 - 06:35
#32
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
When you're this swag this world just bows at your knees

As I frigging told you before, the point of this thread is to SUMMARIZE the amount of complaints etc in this game, if you want solutions go somewhere else

So then it's just another lame rant thread, and therefore I have more reason to be upset at you than you do towards me. But I'm not, you're the one who's being unreasonable getting annoyed over the fact that someone's starting to flame a flammable thread.

The whole point behind this thread was for people to drop their complaints in one single thread instead of each making their own threads complaining about the same things over and over again. I'm tired of seeing so many of the same threads.

That still won't work, people create new threads to complain in because they want attention. If they didn't, they would post in one of the pre-existing threads. Additionally, people will complain until a community-borne solution is brought up so that the regular forum-goers can copy+paste onto every new complainer's thread. Once again, you haven't supplied that, so therefore this thread is doing next to nothing with stemming new complaint threads, and your mentioned intention even labelling it a "everyone comment on my thread but I'm not going to contribute with any detailed information in the OP" thread

Thanks for screwing it up man, no seriously, you should be proud of yourself.

You added yet another thread with half the argumental points having pretty much zero value (Seriously? Do you really need to have every single economical system in Spiral Knights explained to you in detail? If so, why didn't you just ask instead of complaining about absolutely silly things that anyone could have figured out in 20 seconds?) to the pile of negativity that already plagues this subsection.
If your thread has a terrible OP, it was doomed from the very start.

Wed, 11/20/2013 - 06:42
#33
Bitsbee's picture
Bitsbee

Scree-O, Textile, stahp et.

Wed, 11/20/2013 - 06:45
#34
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle

Even though mummy and daddy fight, we still love you

Wed, 11/20/2013 - 08:41
#35
Scirio's picture
Scirio
Mhm.

You're spouting so much contradictions you might as well say nothing at all. Once again you fail to see the underlying message of things. I don't care how much you keep kicking, no need to try and drag me into your narrow minded point of view which leads me to believe your thesis is written by a toddler with a crayon up his nostril.

Wed, 11/20/2013 - 11:08
#36
Traevelliath's picture
Traevelliath

Wait... you miss mist energy? I can understand the appeal of free energy, but mist energy went away when the absolute dependence on energy went away. Now, you can easily go through the entire game without ever touching a piece of Crystal Energy. That's a worthy trade IMO, and I personally don't miss my mist at all. If you're trying to summarize complaints, I haven't seen/heard anyone else complain about the lack of mist energy. Occasionally I hear a nostalgic yearning, but never outright complaints.

"While wearing full snarb, someone still managed to freeze lock me somehow with shiv for an entire match. Because the blast does no damage to break the ice, I wasn't able to dash out. What the boner is this crap."

So... you're saying you want to nerf bombers and buff swordsman in pvp... Erm... Ok... I can think of many people who disagree with you. Believe it or not, there is this thing called "defense" which you can obtain to avoid being freeze-locked. Turns out, there are benefits to investing in defense, rather than forgetting everything for offense. What a novel concept.

After reading back through the thread, I've lost all interest to continue this post.

Wed, 11/20/2013 - 11:32
#37
Fangel's picture
Fangel
Oh dear, let's not nerf the shivermist

The tactic you are complaining about is probably one of the only tactics that makes me a viable recon, especially when I can only freeze-lock the non-popular loadouts other than chaos, and whenever I pull it off one of my teammates will rush in and kill them or a skolver and/or a polares user charges in to attack the recon. It's harder than you might think.

As for a more direct response to the thread, did you make this for complaints you see everywhere, or just ones you see an issue with? You're the first person to really complain about the freeze-lock outside of a match that I've seen. From the looks of it, this isn't a thread looking for solutions. Us forumers who like to resolve conflicts have had a rather unpleasant surprise.
As for the thread's actual points, we've all heard them elsewhere. Some are balance issues, both good to have and bad to have. Others are legitimate issues that we've made clear in far too many threads anyways.

In short, the purpose of this thread isn't really advancing solutions farther, and we're all aware of most, if not all those issues from other threads. Sorry. :/

Wed, 11/20/2013 - 23:51
#38
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle

@Scirio
If you're going to reply to my comment, actually reply to it and develop a counterargument. If you think my points are stupid or nonsensical, refute them with your own points, or with "common logic" if you're so adamant that I'm missing that. If you are simply incapable of doing that, don't reply at all. No need to throw insults

Judging by your last post, you've sidestepped my question on how much you understand the economy. I'm going to assume that you still don't understand how the economy works (as you haven't changed that post in the OP) and simply ignored the question because you were embarrassed by it.

The 10% fee, if you've spent any time on any sort of online auction service, is to pay for having your item advertised on the online database.
"If you don't like the Auction House's fees, then use the trade channel. IT'S FREE! Cramming your items on a permanently active database isn't cheap. Not to mention this is a big crown sink. [...] Lowering auction house fees will cause energy prices to rise! And unrealistic? 10% final sale fee is unrealistic?"
~HexZyle, 87986#comment-778977

The reason why bechamel destroys accessories when they're removed from armor is to remove them from the economy. This means that there is an ever decreasing supply of accessories, especially promotional ones, that must be refilled by CE purchases. (On silver keys for lockboxes, or for accessory boxes during promotions) Said CE purchases consume energy from market circulation, driving the price up. The more CE is in demand, the more likely players are to purchase CE with real money, fuelling Three Ring's profits. After all your talking down on me I'm surprised you hadn't figured this out already.

You want your mist bar back because you want free stuff? Sounds like freeloading to me, we already get ingame currency (crowns) for actually playing the game, the mist bar was pretty much a handout system that rewards having lots of accounts, not actually playing the game. It was a stand-in, Facebook game-esque system that wasn't perfect, and it may have not been the worst system out there, but the way we have things now is much better, and that brings me to my final point. You complain about radiants, so clearly you have no idea where to find them. Try some Shadow Lairs for once. No-one said that your 5 star equipment HAD to be level 10 all round, and no-one said it was going to be easy even getting there.

You added yet another thread with half the argumental points having pretty much zero value

Unless you decide that you actually want to join the discussion again and debate what I've just said here instead of sitting on the bleachers throwing insults like they were smelly old jaffas that you found underneath the bench seats

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 02:43
#39
Scirio's picture
Scirio
Nonsense.

I'm convinced you're just shouting whatever comes to mind without thinking about the point you're trying to make, since you keep suggesting stuff that's so controversial, it's hardly executable.

The 10% fee, if you've spent any time on any sort of online auction service, is to pay for having your item advertised on the online database.
"If you don't like the Auction House's fees, then use the trade channel. IT'S FREE! Cramming your items on a permanently active database isn't cheap. Not to mention this is a big crown sink. [...] Lowering auction house fees will cause energy prices to rise! And unrealistic? 10% final sale fee is unrealistic?"
~HexZyle, 87986#comment-778977

I don't know about you, but I have more to do than stay online on SK all day and spamming trade channels. However, your argument only reinforces my point of you not reading properly. I never mentioned removing the fee, I just don't like the fact it can cost you several hundreds of thousands of cr. This could probably be fixed by implementing a degressive system, which decreases the fee with every 250k for example. If you think about it, this would at the same time fix the issue most merchants have with the ridiculous price drop of rare items.

The reason why bechamel destroys accessories when they're removed from armor is to remove them from the economy. This means that there is an ever decreasing supply of accessories, especially promotional ones, that must be refilled by CE purchases.

I don't think it's to remove them from the economy, why would you remove accs but not gear? If I don't want to have a prism halo on my helm, I should be able to do so without losing 4kce since I bought it during the promo a few months ago. And don't tell me it's the same as losing 4kce for a 5* unbind because it's not, since you can sell said item. The accs just disappear into thin air. This could be easily done otherwise. Such as, giving me the option to get a small refund, just like selling bound gear to vendors, you can get up to 30kcr for that, why not do that with accessories? And don't tell me they can't do that because accesories and costumes don't have a set price for them and the price constantly fluctuates, because they seem pretty capable of coming up with prices for them during the promos.

You complain about radiants, so clearly you have no idea where to find them. Try some Shadow Lairs for once."

I did UFSC the other day, guess what I got? Come on, guess. You guessed it, radiant shards! And not just any amount, but a whopping 64 radiants, which could get me to level 4 if I'm lucky. I'll use your 'amazing' and 'genius' not to mention 'glorious' idea of doing a shadow lair every time I want to heat up a piece of 5* gear. Thanks for the marvelous tip. This is surely doable, especially since it's a given that anyone can finish a shadow lair ofc, so it should apply to everyone who's having trouble finding radiants. Thanks man, that's just a genius solution. Before you try to go all sherlock holmes on me and deduce that I 'clearly have no idea where to find them' please revise your genius argument.

I'm not gonna tell you again, if you want to comment, bring up a valid point and think about how you're going to support it instead of just blurting out what comes to mind.

EDIT: I'm getting tired of you on this forum btw, so I'm just gonna stop responding, you don't seem like the type of person who sees anything besides his own point of view.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 02:46
#40
Zeddy's picture
Zeddy

Solving shiverlocking is simple: Just buff the blast radius of all mist bombs to match their mist radius.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 03:17
#41
Scirio's picture
Scirio
^ this guy gets it.

Finally someone gets it.

I love you zeddy Q_Q

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 04:20
#42
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
When you're this swag this world just bows at your knees

However, your argument only reinforces my point of you not reading properly. I never mentioned removing the fee, I just don't like the fact it can cost you several hundreds of thousands of cr.

Maybe you should have said that from the start then, instead instead of a one lined complaint. Would have helped to have been more descriptive instead of "blurting out what comes to mind."

This could probably be fixed by implementing a degressive system, which decreases the fee with every 250k for example. If you think about it, this would at the same time fix the issue most merchants have with the ridiculous price drop of rare items.

See, now we're getting somewhere. Turning this thread into a constructive one.

The accs just disappear into thin air. This could be easily done otherwise. Such as, giving me the option to get a small refund, just like selling bound gear to vendors, you can get up to 30kcr for that, why not do that with accessories?

I'd prefer to see something like this when it comes to accessories. That way the accessory could be moved from gear to gear in your own arsenal for free, but still a hefty cost put on trading it away.

This is surely doable, especially since it's a given that anyone can finish a shadow lair ofc

Well if you aren't good enough for a Shadow Lair, then you aren't to have your equipment maxed at level 10. I'm certainly only mediocre at elite Shadow Lairs; I tend to burn up a spark or four. (But I'll definitely be going on more in the future, they're fun and challenging) The result of this radiant drought, whether it was intentional or not, is that the higher tier of players: a.k.a the players who are always looking for more challenging levels, are stating that "Tier 3 Elite is too easy", and are actually really good at this game, are rewarded for their level of skill. You don't get people in World of Warcraft or whatever other MMOs people play complaining that they want the highest tier equipment, but aren't good enough to actually beat the endgame bosses to get said equipment or sufficient gold to max said equipment.
Are you dismissing Shadow Lairs as a viable source of Radiants just because you are unable to reliably farm Radiants from it? Or are you actually using solid data gathered from the community? And so what if you can only gain a couple levels for one piece of gear per run? It's not like there's any limit to how many times you can run Shadow Lairs per day, there isn't a mist limit like there used to be.

valid point and think about how you're going to support it instead of just blurting out what comes to mind

"Thinking about how to support a valid point and then posting it" is "blurting out what comes to the mind."
Both involve a thought process, and then a print out of the result. You've just rephrased that statement to make it sound sloppier.
I didn't want to drop huge blocks of text on you because you only replied in short in comment #35. Writing a massive retort could have been a waste of my time, (because I wasn't sure how interested you were in responding) and it also would have made me appear insulted, (Person A says something nasty to person B, and then suddenly Person B writes out a ginormous response? Doesn't take a genius to figure out what Person B is feeling) which I'm trying to avoid (one of my pet peeves is being misinterpreted. I don't mind when people don't understand my point of view, but when people take something I say differently than how I meant it, I can lose it)

so I'm just gonna stop responding

You do whatever you want. (You don't need to state it) I'm in the mood to keep up this banter, as I always am, unless my view changes, I run out of argumental points, or I feel that a comment I'm about to post exceeds a certain threshold of hostility. Personally I'd rather you not reply at all then reply with a half-baked point, nothing quite as boring as holding a discussion/debate with someone who's barely interested in continuing

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 04:33
#43
Oski-Boski's picture
Oski-Boski
God...

Here is your solution, lockdown shouldn't even be in this game. Happy?

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 05:29
#44
Aplauses's picture
Aplauses
@Comanderblue

Then most of people will quit SK and I'm not happy with it.

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