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Sun, 11/24/2013 - 22:58
Hmmnm's picture
Hmmnm

Why do all of the bombs have a circular explosion radius?

There could be directional bombs, bombs with a x shaped explosion area, bombs which acts like a tripwire...
Bombing would be a lot more interesting if you not only had to worry about the placement but also aiming the bomb in the right direction.

I mean, OOO even went to the trouble to take out the popular old sun shards and replace it with a cluster of circular bombs. Why the fixation?

Sun, 11/24/2013 - 23:03
#1
Glad-Amparus's picture
Glad-Amparus
Becauze thei liek circlezzzz.

Becauze thei liek circlezzzz.

Sun, 11/24/2013 - 23:03
#2
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

Probably because its easy to calculate circle radiuseses.

Sun, 11/24/2013 - 23:47
#3
Damienfoxy's picture
Damienfoxy
Because when something

Because when something explodes, it expands from the point of detonation, and outward. Your fancy Xshaped bombs would be... Well... Pointless and untrue to an actual bomb

Mon, 11/25/2013 - 00:24
#4
Midnight-Dj's picture
Midnight-Dj
Well

This is three rings after all, get it? Three 'RINGS'? *criket sounds*

Mon, 11/25/2013 - 00:30
#5
Damienfoxy's picture
Damienfoxy
... Your pun just killed half

... Your pun just killed half the snipe population

Mon, 11/25/2013 - 05:49
#6
Sandwich-Potato's picture
Sandwich-Potato
Stop your circular logic!

/e starts humming Ring Around the Rosies.

That pun killed all the Stranger too, but there's nothing to SPHERE, DJ. Just walk over to that crowd with torches and pitchforks.

Mon, 11/25/2013 - 06:03
#7
Arcknightdelta's picture
Arcknightdelta
They should make it a

They should make it a chiliagon

Mon, 11/25/2013 - 06:29
#8
Cmeresweetheart's picture
Cmeresweetheart

BECAUSE MINECRAFT THAT SUCK MY BOWLS, and by bowls i mean homemade rice bowls, and by homemade i mean stolen from an asian restaurant...

Mon, 11/25/2013 - 06:32
#9
Shamanalah's picture
Shamanalah
my 2 cents

I want a cluster bomb!

Shard are not cluster! they only expand to the outter ring, while I want a bomb that explodes, then have 10-20 mini explosions withing the blast radii so that mobs get shoved around in all places...

You can do anything with explosions... didn't you saw Mythbuster paint with it? The explosion might go in all direction, but you can contain it and point it somewhere...

that's called a cannon or a gun!

Seriously though, I want bombs like Ziggs one in LoL

Mon, 11/25/2013 - 07:12
#10
Whimsicality's picture
Whimsicality

I miss the old Shard Bombs.

Mon, 11/25/2013 - 07:27
#11
No-Thanks
hmm

id like cluster bombs and square bombs

Mon, 11/25/2013 - 07:31
#12
Glittertind

I've also had the idea about directional bombs for a while now (think I made a post that mentioned it a long time ago). Personally I love 'dragging' groups of enemies from one place to another by the use of Electron Vortex, and it is quite useful too. A bomb that exploded with a big arrow lighting up in the direction the enemies go would have been fancy.

But I keep thinking. Why stop there? Why not make bombers able to control where enemies are positioned to an even greater degree? Why not have a bomb that changes the place of every enemy inside the blast radius to the opposite side inside the radius. If you have a lumber on the right side of the bomb, it would end up on the left side, as if it was standing on a big spinning disc. I don't know what tactical purpose such a bomb would have at the moment, maybe to move heavy trojans away from teammates (who may or may not be getting a beating in a corner) in exchange for a bunch of slags, I don't know, but I'd say that's half the fun. Using new mechanics in new ways. Finding neat little tricks and perfecting them.

Bombers doesn't have to stick to the same old boom-spread-enemies-everywhere. We already have bombs defying that, but I would love to see more of it. Bombing could be like the freaking spellcasting of SK.

Mon, 11/25/2013 - 07:33
#13
Bopp's picture
Bopp
agree with Whimsicality

The old shard bombs didn't have circular explosions. They effectively had 8-point star-like explosions.

Mon, 11/25/2013 - 08:06
#14
Skayeth's picture
Skayeth
You can't sustain my releases!

Lol, when I read your topic thingy, I thought you wanted square and hexagon bombs.

Mon, 11/25/2013 - 08:09
#15
Talaos
Set traps

With motion sensors!

Demolish crumbling walls with remote detonation!

Lob grenades with the new and improved Sling!v2.0!

Mon, 11/25/2013 - 08:12
#16
Skayeth's picture
Skayeth
You can't sustain my releases!

Welcome to SK, where bombs used to have no effect on surrounding structures. Now, with the new releases, bombs can blast open the core, destroy Seerus' base in no time flat, and make more LD complaining.

Mon, 11/25/2013 - 08:21
#17
Eric-Rokai's picture
Eric-Rokai
People are afraid of Offensive bombers

It's easily done, since we have the BN bombs, which works by squares instead of radius.
Using a logic like "lol thats not how bombs works" is cheap.
C'mon, this is a game, swords dont shot explosions or edge-shaped energy and we know we have the Brandish and sealed lines.

Mon, 11/25/2013 - 08:27
#18
Krakob's picture
Krakob
@Bopp

The initial blast was a circle, though. A small one but it was still there.

Mon, 11/25/2013 - 13:45
#19
Yanos-Aldrin's picture
Yanos-Aldrin
playing Dev's advocate

While I wont get into the basic physics to answer the OP's question, how cool would it be if we were given a new line of bombs that functioned like Claymores? Granted some can argue that some bombs can function the same way with strategic placement, but I would imagine multiple placement mechanics with possible proximity triggers rather than timed fuses & one-at-a-time placement like the current system. TO THE SUGGESTION FORUM!

I'm surprised no one has suggested this thread to go in The Arsenal yet.... :P

Mon, 11/25/2013 - 19:28
#20
Mzculet's picture
Mzculet
Maybe the devs are made of

Maybe the devs are made of circles?

Mon, 11/25/2013 - 19:47
#21
Kraanx's picture
Kraanx
circular bombs are a complex

circular bombs are a complex matter.
you see, circles are a symbol of eternity, but since bombs don't last forever, there is some poetic stuff to be said about it.
however, when you use bombs you get infinite bombs, and when you kill enemies you kill them forever, so its even more poetic.
so, i hope that was clear to everybody

Mon, 11/25/2013 - 20:19
#22
Rezzler's picture
Rezzler
@Damien You are comparing

@Damien

You are comparing mechanics of a bomb to real world? In that case, if we were to make everything real world, swords would be much faster and do a LOT more damage, guns would have MUCH longer range, and bombs would blow the crap out of EVERYTHING because a bomb the size of your head wont make some measly explosion onpy 10 meters in radius.

I wonder what other geniuses tried comparing this obviously fictional game to real world. Anyone who makes this argument deserves a "my IQ is less than that of a donkey" award.

Now.....different shaped bombs? Good odea.

Mon, 11/25/2013 - 20:19
#23
Skayeth's picture
Skayeth
You can't sustain my releases!

NO! HEXAGONAL BOMBS ARE THE BEST. THE END!

Mon, 11/25/2013 - 22:15
#24
Alphacommando's picture
Alphacommando
I don't think they'd have

I don't think they'd have ACTUAL directional bombs that shoot off one way, that's too much like guns or Brandishes...

What about a bomb that makes a circular string of explosions, one after the other, originating from whichever direction you were facing when you placed it?

Tue, 11/26/2013 - 01:11
#25
Ambasjaydor's picture
Ambasjaydor
oωo

well I did always have this idea for a bomb that had enneacontagon shaped explosions, but in retrospect i'm not actually sure it'd be too big a game changer....

Tue, 11/26/2013 - 08:14
#26
Skayeth's picture
Skayeth
SIDECHAIN WOLFGANG!!!

Lol. I don't even know what shape that is...

Tue, 11/26/2013 - 10:32
#27
Skold-The-Drac's picture
Skold-The-Drac
@alphacommando

"They have actual directional bombs that shoot off one way, that's (the charge of) brandishes."
fixed it for you
/ty

If you want alternate bomb mechanics look at the other weapon classes.
Directional bomb = any non-bomb with an elemental line and troika lines.
Cluster bombs = Alchemer charge (you even get range!), the initial payload detonates and then four additional loads shoot off somewhat unpredictably due to factors such as internal ricochet. Autoguns too (directional service free, tracking not included)
Tripwire = Catalyzer (generalization incoming), you can set a payload on the enemy and decide when it goes off. How? By shooting a regular shot.
Quick bombs? Pulsars (just let their "fuse" finish)
Slapping with a bomb? Brandishes
Seriously.

That noob calling you weak for being a pure-bomber? Likely relying on his directional bomb(s) while you run right up to any threat and instead of smacking them you give them a present!(Caution: presents generally not intended for consumption or general use except in dire situations in which user is feeling swag)

Tue, 11/26/2013 - 11:44
#28
Draycos's picture
Draycos

I knew I wasn't crazy.

Relevant topic I made a long time ago here.

I want to see more explosion shapes and mechanics myself.

As for the argument that bombs shouldn't explode in X's or anything but circles, swords aren't supposed to shoot laser swords and explode when they slam into the ground. It's a game. Suspension of logic for the sake of fun and all that.

Tue, 11/26/2013 - 12:08
#29
Misty-Wellington's picture
Misty-Wellington
<insert witty comment here>

Why not Bomberman-style + bombs?

Tue, 11/26/2013 - 14:18
#30
Popoixd's picture
Popoixd
A bomb that explode into a

A bomb that explode into a triangle and one that explode intao a big *. But tey dont care where you face when you place them, they alway do point in this ^ direction.

Thu, 11/28/2013 - 14:59
#31
Skold-The-Drac's picture
Skold-The-Drac
a bomb that aims

If they ever release a bomb that has a non-circular radius, I request on behalf of every bomber, that said bomb has a function that makes it "aimable". DBB proves that this is possible as snarby rises whichever direction you were facing when you placed the bomb.

But they're bombs, so this request will go unheeded and OOO will prolly just make another reskin of an op weapon/buff blitz again.

Thu, 11/28/2013 - 17:23
#32
Nuclear-Atom
Intriguing...

@Skold-the-Drac
by saying that, you changed my views on bombing completely.
Now that I think of it, this whole game is about bombing, in essence.
SK created bombing as a crowd-control style of play.
And even if some weapons dont explode or cause explosions, they, in essence, have a crowd control function.

We dont need anymore types of bombs. We have them all

Okay, well, personally, I'd like to see a bomb replicating a Gremlin Demo's bomb.
Like, they get to throw them. not fair.
Like a darkfang shield, why cant we get demo bombs?

Thu, 11/28/2013 - 23:12
#33
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
Goddess Ilias ain't gonna bless you, boy

Like a darkfang shield, why cant we get demo bombs?

http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Deconstructor

Fri, 11/29/2013 - 10:39
#34
Hellscreams-Forum's picture
Hellscreams-Forum
This guy must be new...

The Beta version of the game contains different bombs from the other...You should check it out before posting random stuff :D

Fri, 11/29/2013 - 18:42
#35
Quin-Thunderwraith's picture
Quin-Thunderwraith
Grenades could be cool. you

Grenades could be cool. you charge em up and then you can throw them. then it has a certain blast radius

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