Blitzsonic, do you even have a Blitz Needle? Honestly?
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I don't have a Blitz needle and never crafted one because i'm not fan of the mechanic. But you can ask almost everyone(that has a blitz needle) on haven, and most of them will tell you that they crafted it for vana. A lot of people hate the mechanic, and their only reason to craft this gun is for vana and the trojans, so if OOO decides to change this, we will get a lot of forum topics about this. There are a few players that like the mechanic and know how to correctly use it.
A lot of people hate the mechanic, and their only reason to craft this gun is for vana and the trojans
So you're openly admitting that players are forced to craft it, ulteriorally because without the OP weapon that allows you to glide easily through FSC grinding runs, you'll be kicked from the party.
we will get a lot of forum topics about this
We get a lot of forum topics about everything. Do lots of forum topics wreck the game? Nope. Forums is forums, the game is the game. If the developers were scared of people creating threads, they should just shut down both the forums and the game entirely.
I know A LOT of people who crafted Blitz Needle for reasons other than Vana/Trojans (myself included, I initially crafted mine because I preferred the Autogun line over the Magnus line, and at the time I had absolutely no knowledge that Vana even existed. I had seen three Trojans ever prior to starting on it, and those were all in the 'Blades of the Fallen' mission, in which it's not completely clear that an Autogun was effective on them, in fact, at the time it seemed useless to me to use it on them. You hate the mechanic, you say? May I ask what other weapons and armour you use, then? And also, Blitz isn't only good for Vana/Trojans. It's an extremely useful piercing gun, you just can't be an idiot while using it.
EDIT: Oh what am I saying. I apologise-- at this point I'm just arguing for the sake of arguing. It's overpowered, it needs a nerf, and it's abused. Not much more to it.
Going off what Dib said, Blitz isn't only useful in Vana, it just happens to be the best weapon for that stratum. I got mine for collection reasons, as I'm aiming to get all the gear in the game; the fact that it shreds Vana is just a bonus. And as far as I know the only people who hate the gun and think it is useless because of the mechanic are newb players who don't know how to use it properly (no offense to all those noobs out there :P).
No, they aren't forced to craft it, but i'm sure that most players only got it because of the "trojan killer" and "good ranged vana weapon" reason. Sure, you can use it against devilites and wolvers, but wolvers teleport and devilites do quick dashes(there were 3 videos in a post, you can see some examples there if you don't belive me people). I'm not saying that blitz is only good for vana, it can be useful everywhere else if you know how to use the mechanic.
@Sandwich
An other user uploaded 3 videos, there you can clearly see them dodging and wolvers teleporting.
Your video also shows players with a swiftstrike buckler which gives attack speed.
OOO probably counted the numbers(it's only 8 if you hit a enemy that is strong against it) and probably never saw that the total damage was a lot.
"Your video also shows players with a swiftstrike buckler which gives attack speed."
Well the game only has two shields: Barbarous Thorn Shield which gives sword bonus and Swifstrike Buckler which gives speed bonus. Blitz Needle isn't a sword so what else are they supposed to use?
What do you want them to use? Proto Shields? Because I'm pretty sure it wouldn't make much of a difference.
THEY DODGE. SO WHAT. THEY STILL DIED IN A FEW SECONDS. It's like being in a paintball fight and some moron floods the entire place with paint. You can't really dodge it all.
Do you know a popular weapon that people used to use to kill Trojans? I'll give you a hint, both parts of its name starts with 'F'. The Final Flourish used to be able to almost one-shot Trojans. In fact, the charge, while a bit hard to land, could be followed up by a swipe and the final stab, leaving the Trojan one more hit from death (easily obtained by simply starting a new combo while it's still stunned). And guess what? The toothpick's damage still isn't anywhere even remotely near what the Blitz Needle could tear through, not to mention the charge on Blitz is significantly easier to land, and relatively safer to use. And back to the Final Flourish, this was with max damage bonus. The Blitz can one-shot a Trojan with no damage increases whatsoever, almost twice over in fact.
Sir, I would like to offer you to meet me in-game for an Arcade run. I'll use my Level 7 Blitz Needle and only my Level 7 Blitz Needle, no matter what stratum it is, then you can tell me whether you truly understand that what you're saying is erroneous, or if I'm just exaggerating.
Did I ever say that I'm against a damage nerf, do it if you want OOO. But don't tell me I didn't warn you about the posts.(not sure if OOO will ever nerf it or if they "think" the weapon is fine. because *removed spoiler about a screenshot that everyone saw* is going to be added in the gunner update, so say bye to ice queen and royal jelly.
Two things: remove the spoiler for one.
And two, Dark Retribution. Some new gun taking its place is cool idea and all, but it's no replacement.
1: As Dibs said, REMOVE THAT SPOILER.
2: Back on topic. Since there's nothing really to say more on OCH stuff, I think this should be Graveyarded.
Having used the DR before the nerf, I'll tell you my thought after it happened. This bomb was amazing (still is) when I first got it. It was sooo much fun to use, and the power was simply astonishing!! To me, it was like eating comfort food. It just felt great. I was instantly in love with the bomb, and used it on every run. THEN, there was a nerf... my initial feelings were very bitter. To me it was a similar feeling as when you get stunned, it was so sluggish, incredibly sluggish... I could not believe it. I pocketed that thing and didn't use it for a while, it was just too painful with the orbs moving sooo slowly. The thing felt like it was in slow motion!
Fast forward a bit... I still really enjoy the DR, and I have gotten used to the reduced speed. Even after the nerf this thing is still a monster! I think it's great... although two silk wings can be a problem now if using only the DR vs. neutral enemies. I would give anything to have the pre-nerf DR back, sigh.
As for the other OCH stuff, excellent gear. Take the WRH, learn the swing bash trick and kill some kats quicker than you can say bad kitty! For a gunner, the perfect mask is fantastic.
...That would be insane. Stupidly insane. Everything would die nearly instantly. Even Vanny for stages 1-4 would be quickly take care of; did you see the FSC Shadow Challenge?
Since there's nothing really to say more on OCH stuff, I think this should be Graveyarded.
Please, yes! This post has gone on long enough, and nothing is even being added anymore.
Blitzsonic, please remove that spoiler.
Waiting for it to be Graveyard'.
Ahem. Blitz, it has come to my notice that you are in stark violation of a serious rule -
BWAHAHA.
- serious rule. AKA no spoilers. So please remove this vile atrocity at once before Graveyarding the mess.
AKA HURRY UP AND REMOVE IT BECAUSE IT SPOILS EVERYTHING. Jeez.
Yes, it spoils everything because noone has seen the leaked screenshots...
Ontopic:
This topic can be closed since the DR still works great against enemies and didn't get nerfed that bad.
Now that the topic is closed, it should go where it belongs.
/e Blackbluue wonders if Blitzsonic knows how to graveyard a thread
Yes, it spoils everything because noone has seen the leaked screenshots...
Keep saying that when you're banned for spoiling. You know, some people don't want to know what the new guns are. Some want to be surprised.
Don't make topics on gear you don't even have... it's redundant, especially in a game where there's practically no balance so everything is more opinion-based rather than "This is better than this in this situation."
Guess what Blitz?
NOT EVERYONE HAS SEEN THE SCREENSHOTS.
Guess what else?
NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO SEE THEM. SOME WANT TO BE SURPRISED.
And you just ruined their day. I hope you're happy with yourself.
Monster.
*Noobie player tries to school everybody as to how weapons in Spiral Knights work.*
*Our awesome forumers try to teach him, and to no avail.*
Noobie player, "Hurr Durr, I totes know what I'm saying hurr durr."
Experienced players, "Hurr Durr nope durr."
Lesson of the day? Blitzsonic, before the you try and school all of us who have been playing for a couple of years, and know our way around the game at least try these weapons. Heck, even the strike needle is more powerful than a lot of 5 star weapons. And to you experienced players...think about what you're getting into next time. And if you'll get anywhere.