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Mon, 12/09/2013 - 01:03
Blue-Flood's picture
Blue-Flood

I remember hearing rumors about this but never really dug too deep into it.
Fire fire... if an item say causes Minor fire, would the fire do the same amount (per tick and duration) regardless of what weapon dealt?

For example:
Ash of Agni vs Flamberge

I remember hearing that if the damage bonus is higher on the weapon, the fire tick becomes greater.

Anyone?

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 01:30
#1
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle

Damage of status is dependant primarily on the star rating of the weapon with the status, and secondarily dependant on the strength of the status.
This being said, the damage does not always increase with each star rating increase. Some examples are: Four Star Freeze deals the same as Three Star Freeze, Three Star Shock deals the same as Two Star Shock, and Five Star Fire deals the same as Four Star Fire.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 03:49
#2
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Zeddy

You're in luck, I've extensively researched this.

The fire from Flamberge would be weaker than the fire from Ash of Agni if both are used in Tier 3. However, in Tier 2 they would act the same. The fire from Fierce Flamberge, on the other hand, is Tier 3 and will work just as well as Ash of Agni's fire at any depth in Tier 3.

So there's Tier 1 fire, Tier 2 fire and Tier 3 fire. Tier 3 fire acts exactly like Tier 2 fire while in Tier 2 and exactly like Tier 1 fire while in Tier 1, but the opposite is not true.

Tier 1 fire is inflicted by 0* and 1* sources, Tier 2 fire is inflicted by 2* and 3* sources while Tier 3 fire is inflicted by 4* and 5* sources.

A notable exception to this is Drakon, who inflicts Tier 3 fire right away even when it's level 1.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 04:16
#3
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Blue-Flood

Nice, thanks for the responses. I was really trying to get at if my 4* firo driver would do as much in fire damage as the 5* magma.
My next question was going to be about the length of freeze from a 2* cryo in the LD enviornment comparativley, but after looking at the fire spreadsheet... i think it'd be easier to just level it to it's full potential :)

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 08:52
#4
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Zeddy

Firo Driver is bugged, and its fire is Tier 1. I strongly recommend upgrading it.

I believe the freeze length would remain unchanged for the 4* gun, however. The shock from 4* storm driver as well.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 11:36
#5
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Gianor
So that's why my Firo Driver is so dam weak!

I was using Firo Driver and AoA in the clockworks, and I knew this fact about fire, and I still wondered why my Firo Driver didn't do is much.

Also spotted this in Lockdown. Caught a chaos on fire, did about 1-1 1/2 bars per tick. I was a skolver hit by a Magma Driver, and I get 2 1/2 damage per tick.

I didn't wanna upgrade it because it'd just be weaker, since Radiant's are in drought right now.

Should I leave it as-is and keep my higher ele damage but weak as hell fire? Or should I trade in that damage for decent fire?

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