Spiral Knights - Attack Speed UV is barely noticable?!?

Attack Speed UV is barely noticable?!?

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Tue, 05/24/2011 - 22:38

Evokie

I have a Cold Iron Vanquisher with Very High Attack Speed UV. I compared it with a normal Calibur and the attack speed of the 2 swords are pretty much the same. the one with the UV is faster by about 20 millisecond which i think is ridiculous. think about it, if someone has a sword with low or medium attack speed bonus that would only have a 5-10 millisecond difference. might as well not even have Attack Speed UV at all.

I think that the Spiral Knights Developers should really do somthing about the Attack Speed Unique Variant.

what do you guys think?

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 22:43

Loki

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There's a cap on how much of

There's a cap on how much of any stat you can get, and the Calibur-series already has a fairly high amount of Speed on it, so a Speed UV isn't going to affect them -as- much as if you had a Speed UV on a slower, heavy Sword.

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 22:56

Evokie

that just doesnt make any

that just doesnt make any sense. If a heavy sword and a Calibur both have Attack Speed UV -Very High- they should both have the same amount of attack speed increase. just becuz 1 sword is generally faster doesnt mean that it should have less attack speed bonus. A swords attack speed cap is when the "light blue line" reaches its maximum point which is about 10 bars. the calibur has 5 and 1/3 out of 10 on the attack speed bar. a Very High UV only gives a little more then half of 1 bar.

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 23:06

Azurenightmare

They do. It's percentage

They do. It's percentage based.

One sword has, say a 2 second pause between the swings. if it gets lowered by 50%, that means you get a -1 sec bonus. The calibur has like, 0,5 sec between swings, so it only gets a -0,25 bonus.

I think that makes sense anyway.

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 23:10

Evokie

i kinda understand what your

i kinda understand what your saying. but i guess you dont have a very high attack speed sword to compare from becuase its actually barely noticeable. I just feel that as a sword with such a high UV, the difference should at least be a little more apparent.

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 23:19

Tive

http://forums.spiralknights.c

http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/4816
from this it would appear weapon speed increases by 4% per level of attack speed, and with quick weapons it's hard to actually hit the next swing as soon as possible (but it should be noticable for what it's used for, getting more of your combo off in different situations/getting your shield up faster)

edit: and I use ultra attack speed from equip and it's rather noticable. of course it doesn't make it a whole lot easier to hit stuff with my flourish. but that's because enemies attack so slow already anyway (no problem comboing usually). But 3 hit comboing is no problem either most of the time. On my heavy sword it allows for reliably hitting 2 strike combos in close situations. So that's something.

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 23:28

Betrael

I've noticed a big difference

I've noticed a big difference in the time between follow up hits on cornered/stationary foes.
I use a very fast UV nightblade. while I understand how reaching the next frame works in a few other games I'm fairly stumped with this one since there's no real numbers anywhere, but compared to other people using a nightblade I'm like a gust and they're just a breeze.

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 23:48

Cobaltstarfire

I think it's noticeable even

I think it's noticeable even with just the +medium speed increase from a piece of Vog Cub.

I mean, the time difference isn't really perceivable to me, but the general feel of any swing or group of swings is just different enough to mean something in a fight...if that makes any sense at all.

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 13:56

symon17

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Idk, I agree with the OP. I

Idk, I agree with the OP. I was excited about getting my vog cub armor for the "medium sword speed bonus". To this day I can't tell you if I'm even wearing it or not. I even timed the combos with an avenger (slow sword) and acheron (average). There basically is no difference in speed. I've played other mmos that offer increased attack speed with certain classes/gear, and in those cases it actually makes a difference. I'd love to see that in SK also.

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 18:21

Pupu

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Lol

And that's why volc plate > vog, case closed.

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 18:44

#10

Evokie

yeah the attack speed UV in

yeah the attack speed UV in Spiral Knights is pretty disappointing.

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 21:49

#11

sl0shie

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Idk, I agree with the OP. I

This.

I've played a LOT of MMOs, and in every one increasing swing/stab/spellcasting/punching/kicking speed was one of THE biggest game changers out there!

Knowing this, I got the vog set and an atk spd high UV DA, giving me Ultra atk spd increase.

I don't see any difference at all, I have guildies with "regular" DAs, and it's a coin flip as to who is swinging faster.. total let down. I even made a point of getting a really slow, strong weapon so that once hasted to ultra it would be like driving a mack truck with 5 second 0-60 times.

Man this sucks.

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 22:20

#12

mirrorminx

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The speed difference matters

I made a living in a long-ago age crafting and selling vog, so I was on and off wearing my vog or ash tail set.

The big difference I noticed with both is that the attack speed UV/armor enhancement primarily effects the actual swing, not the combo speed between strikes (at least how I percieve it). Try shield cancelling the first strike with a Divine Avenger, and you can notice a very significant speed difference. With full vog, I can get better dps hitting the first hit, shielding, hitting, shielding then going through with a full combo, which isn't the case with Ash Tail.

So it does depend on how you use it. The DA feels a bit sluggish to me without vog on, because I'm used to playing to the shield cancelling strength of the speed increase.

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