Requesting Art, anime-style

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Thinslayer's picture
Thinslayer

Reference picture

^Draw that girl in a Grey Feather set, with some of her hair hanging in front of the hood. She dual-wields pure-white ethereal swords, kind of like Ganondorf's sword, held out to the side kind of like this, but advancing on the camera like this.

I'll pay anywhere between 1kce and 7.5kce for a good piece.

Any takers?

Lizzi's picture
Lizzi

I have some samples on my commission thread and my Deviantart account. I charge 1750CE per character, and a little more for a background depending on how complex it is.

If you're interested, I can produce a couple of sketches and then you can choose the one you like.

Thinslayer's picture
Thinslayer
@Lizzi

How well do you think you can draw it in much the same style as the main reference picture? The character should look human, not like a Spiral Knight.

Lizzi's picture
Lizzi

I can do anime-styled humans too.

Thinslayer's picture
Thinslayer
@Lizzi

Alrighty then, I'd like to see some sketches, please. :D

Lizzi's picture
Lizzi

This is a little more actiony than what you requested, but this is my interpretation. I don't have access to my tablet atm so it's just a pencil sketch.

http://puu.sh/79bJC.jpg

Valorai's picture
Valorai
Heart of Valor.

I was wondering when Lizzi was going to post on this thread. :D

Thinslayer's picture
Thinslayer
@Lizzy

I really don't like how she looks. She seems too short and fat, and her hair is too big.

Try tracing a hood over the reference pic and replacing the dress details with Grey Feather details, and run from there.

Liminori's picture
Liminori
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Hmmm........
Anime style? I suppose I could do something similar, Although I'm not sure I can promise it will be finished until the end of the week.
I will not charge for it, But I cannot reassure that it will fit your tastes or quality, Seeing as my forte is pencil and paper, I'll be going outside of my comfort zone.
I need a bit more description, How should I set the theme? Do you want a specific emotion displayed? Do you want a specific background?

Thinslayer's picture
Thinslayer
@Liminori

I want her to look human. PC is white. Theme is...well, I dunno. She's in enemy territory. Neutral/serene expression.

Liminori's picture
Liminori
*Sigh*

This is going to take MUCH longer than I thought. 2-3 days, maybe. It's most likely due to my lack of favor of PC Art.

Here, After a good amount of procrastination and fury over perfectionism, The sketch has been finished.
Alright, I'll change that when I get to the drawing itself.
Think of it like concept art for a book, If that makes sense- I don't post the picture until I think it's good, even if it's a sketch. It's a 4/5 step process,
Sketch, Upload, Listen for how I could improve, Draw, Upload.

Thinslayer's picture
Thinslayer
@Liminori

That's...half-decent, actually. The cloak doesn't seem long enough, though.

Lizzi's picture
Lizzi

Bloop. Second try. I took all your suggestions for her body proportions. I did this without an internet connection so I didn't have access to any references xD

http://puu.sh/79Cyl.png

Tell me if there's still something you want to change.

EDIT: She's still too short, comparing to your original reference >.<

Thinslayer's picture
Thinslayer
@Lizzi

Oh...that'll be a problem. The reference pics are kind of important.

She should be looking at the screen.
The swords are pointing down.
The pants should be a bit tighter and tucked into boots.
The cloak should be a tad longer.

Her proportions are better, but still not quite ideal. She needs to be a bit taller and leaner.

It's looking better overall, though. :)

Colray's picture
Colray
wait

Tucked in? That's not how the Grey Owlite cloak is designed though

Thinslayer's picture
Thinslayer
@Colray

Don't care. It looks cool

Lizzi's picture
Lizzi

Egh. Really hard translating grey feather to a human form.

V3: http://puu.sh/79DUY.png

Thinslayer's picture
Thinslayer
@Lizzi
Lizzi's picture
Lizzi

This... this could have been a really helpful ref to give in the first place. :/

Edit: Sigh. V4: http://puu.sh/79Fbn.png

Thinslayer's picture
Thinslayer
Let's try this again.
Midnight-Dj's picture
Midnight-Dj
@thin
Thinslayer's picture
Thinslayer
@Midnight-Dj

Not really. I mean, you got the pose right and all, but I didn't mean her to appear imposing. Augh, I have a very specific image of her in my mind, and nobody seems to get it.

Imagine the character being almost utterly defeated, and now making a comeback for a last stand. In that respect, Lizzi's is closer to the look and feel I'm aiming for.

Lizzi's picture
Lizzi
Thinslayer's picture
Thinslayer
@Lizzi

Make the swords parallel with her arms, and it'll be just about perfect. :D

Lizzi's picture
Lizzi

V6. http://puu.sh/79JJe.png

Full drawing is scaling out at 4500x3000, yo.

Thinslayer's picture
Thinslayer
@Lizzi

EDITED

Colray's picture
Colray
My entry I'm not good at

My entry

I'm not good at doing eyes :/

Lizzi's picture
Lizzi

Need more adjustments, or will that do?

Thinslayer's picture
Thinslayer
@Lizzi
Lizzi's picture
Lizzi

Alright, made her fit those proportions on my art program.

Thinslayer's picture
Thinslayer
@Lizzi

Got some alternate opinions. Your original V6 is what I'll go with, not my stretched one.

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Lizzi

Er... okay. I just made the proportions somewhere in between.

http://puu.sh/7ae1z.png

Thinslayer's picture
Thinslayer
@Lizzi

Perfect. Let's work with that.

Lizzi's picture
Lizzi

Cool beans. Does this mean I'm hired?

Thinslayer's picture
Thinslayer
@Lizzi

Yes, this means you're hired. :D

Shall I pay a little up front and the rest when the art is complete?

Lizzi's picture
Lizzi

Yup. Standard policy for me is half payment up front and half after I'm done. Would 3500 total be an agreeable price for you? It'll include a nice background and humans are significantly harder for me to draw :{D

Thinslayer's picture
Thinslayer
@Lizzi

3500 is an agreeable price.

I'll have to consider a background now. What do you suggest?

Hazardous-Anomaly's picture
Hazardous-Anomaly
Suggestion

A royal courtroom. dueling chamber. Similar to where people fight Ornstein and Smough to reach you ;3

Thinslayer's picture
Thinslayer
A few I was considering.

*The same snowy background.
*The Clockworks.
*The Swarm behind her.
*A dark forest, like Gloaming Wildwoods.

P.S. Your IGN is Lizzi, right?

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Lizzi

What I envisioned as a background would be a graveyard or something dark? And in the foreground, fog parts to reveal her with her sword in her hand (it's what I indicated with the little clouds close to the ground).

Thinslayer's picture
Thinslayer
@Lizzi

Ooh, that sounds appealing. Though, the graveyard setting doesn't quite seem appropriate to the character (but from an artistic perspective, it certainly fits).

Suppose we did fog in a dark forest?

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Lizzi

Sure, a dark forest could totally fly with me.

And yes, my IGN is Lizzi. I'll begin outlining your commission as soon as I'm done with Styrafome's. I'll post an outline WIP here when I do, so you can make any changes that you see fit.

Kaijuhunter's picture
Kaijuhunter
Hmm... Meh.

He/she's so much better at art than me... But maybe I can try and do something? I dunno, I'm bored and I've got artist's block (is that even a thing?)

Thinslayer's picture
Thinslayer
@Kaijuhunter

I might let you try. ^_^

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Lizzi

So instead of doing what I normally do with outlining and coloring, I've decided to take a more painterly route with this drawing. So it'll end up more like a lineless painting rather than a lined chibi.

For now, here's a WIP of the dark forest background. This will sorta define the mood of the whole piece, so tell me if you want me to make any changes.

Background by itself: http://puu.sh/7ftVv.png
Background with Gwen silhouette: http://puu.sh/7fuqy.png

Thinslayer's picture
Thinslayer
@Lizzi

It's perfect. :D

Remember, Gwen's swords are ghostly white. I know the reference pic showed blue swords, so I wanted to make sure you knew. ;)

Sonosuke's picture
Sonosuke
#Sonosuks

I legit want to see all the pictures from this post photoshopped together.

Lizzi's picture
Lizzi

Wasn't sure if you were going to check my thread so....

WIP for Thin.... and a 100% zoom closeup ...how do I even hair

Feline-Grenadier's picture
Feline-Grenadier
Hm...

There's a lot of different approaches...

You could layer thin strands of hair on top of one another using different sized brushes.

Using a combination of both thick and thin would work.

Making the hair a solid shape and then adding depth and texture would work.

And highlight is a must for hair.

For Gwen's image, I suggest allowing the hair strands to float and whip around, or at least make a sort of frame for her face without making straight bangs. Also, covering the eyebrows will remove any expression you gave her using the eyebrows, so try not to have too many bangs that go beneath the forehead or lower the face. Alternatively, you could add a few bangs that go in between the eyebrows.

You can use this as a sort of help for an anime-style approach :

http://www.deviantart.com/art/Spiral-Knights-Sketch-Vinnydime-366425266

In the method of the link, the eyebrows are re-drawn ABOVE the layer of bangs, making them still visible. Realistic eyebrows are not recommended for that approach, as strands of eyebrow will be lost or conflicting with strands of individual bangs or hair.

Subjectively (mark my words, I am nowhere near a good artist, but I just analyze a lot of things for compensation), I liked your rough draft version better. If you had increased contrast and removed all saturation of color, you'd have a very good black-and-white fill-in-the-blank sort of template to work with. It shows expressions more easily and anime-like than your current draft, and it doesn't look like it's trying too hard for a blend of realism with the anime-style Thin wanted.

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Jes-Turr
Fannn~tastic!

Hiya Lizzi :U

Like Vinny said, it helps to not think about hair as individual strands but as a blob of hair, and adding strands after, to make them flow more
Think of the hair as one chunk and add lines flowing down before adding the hood to make the little... side... pouring-out-y-things of hair more organic :D
Even then, strands shouldn't be rendered, but rather textured in
Also, white hair is really just light-grey (or any variation of light colors) hair with white highlights :D

Good luck!

Thinslayer's picture
Thinslayer
@Lizzi

Her expression seems to look clueless, and her hood is too thick IMO. Maybe aim for a more...seductive or "bad girl" expression. And I'm less concerned about the accuracy of the armor as I am about the way it complements the character, so I won't be bothered if you thin out the hood until it no longer looks like Grey Feather.

A couple strands in front of her face wouldn't look too out of place, either...

I really liked the sketch. The sketch is awesome. There isn't anything in the V6 sketch I would change except giving it some color.