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Thu, 03/13/2014 - 12:18

#151

Malkalack

Swag IS a virtue

Who is it? DUDE MY CHARACTER NEEDS HIM. HE IS PERFORMING DARK RITUALS TRYING TO GET HIS ATTENTION.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 12:39

#152

Sho-Marufuji

It's Shotime. Huehuehue.

Recap of the events right now to clear my confusion:

Cicero: Currently in his apartment with a dead body in a sack conducting a dark ritual trying to catch the attention of a Fallen Valkyrie whom hasn't been made yet or played by.
Gwen: Off murdering more Knights.
Elzilla: About to get attacked by some Valkyries on "sacred grounds".
Jaxter, Blesse, Andre, Creepy-Champion dood whose name I can't remember, and apparently Sono: With Barrus discussing the recent murders and getting ready for some sort of mission to pursue the killer?
Me: Waiting for Sono to get to the elevator so I can't accidently bump heads with him, literally. I also heard the mention of a fight and me returning to Barrus.
Renao: Cave?

Tell me if I missed up on anything, messed up on, or anyother stuff.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 12:37

#153

Malkalack

Oh helm yeah!

@ Thinslayer
Dude, you need to assign the Fallen Valkyrie and fast. it's essential to a mini-plot with Cicero I had planned.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 12:41

#154

Darkwatck

Plots

THey are suppose to be designed by the Host not the players ._.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 12:42

#155

Malkalack

Oh helm yeah!

Some people like to play the villain. BUT I WIWLLY NEED IT FWAST.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 13:16

#156

Thinslayer

Getting it settled

Sho-Marufuji's Marsh/Anders is the Fallen Valkyrie.

EDIT: You most certainly will be getting the attention of a valkyrie, but probably not the one you wanted. O.O

Also, by killing that knight earlier, you just put a deathmark on Cicero's head.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 13:16

#157

Sho-Marufuji

Huh.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 13:18

#158

Thinslayer

@Sho-Marufuji

Well, after I made you the offer, you made it sound like you accepted it. I don't recall hearing direct confirmation either way, though. :/

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 13:21

#159

Malkalack

Swag IS a virtue

I kinda need that character to make an emergence.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 13:23

#160

Thinslayer

@Malkalack

As you wish. >:)

No GM powers will be used in this attempt.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 13:24

#161

Malkalack

Oh helm yeah!

okay. I DONT have to call in a wrathful narwhal brigade on you now.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 13:27

#162

Midnight-Dj

:/ @thin

I still need a confirmation whether or not Valkyrie Queen is Gwen, if so, Elzilia will move on to her next targets the spires of life, the 3 spire that is maintaining the power of all valkyries. For now, she will gether a few more weapons and upgrades before the confrontation with the Queen.

Note: Ursulan, Affraiel and Midnight will be join Elzilia's journey if noone else is interested.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 13:39

#163

Thinslayer

@Midnight-Dj

The Valkyrie Queen does not directly command her soldiers; she leaves that job to her underlings, most notably Freya, if that's what you're counting on. I will not tell you the identity of the Valkyrie Queen if you haven't already figured it out.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 13:44

#164

Sonosuke

#Sonosuks

Thin, I think you're talking about Blessid-Bombardier's Marsh/Anders. Sho's character is named Sho. And like I said earlier, where is Blessid?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 13:52

#165

Thinslayer

Wait wut

Did I get them mixed up?

Dang. Sorry about that, guys. :/

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 13:58

#166

Liminori

@Sho

Renao's with Jaxter, Blesse, Andre, Creepy-Champion dood, And sono, And You're there too. Otherwise, Everything was written properly.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:06

#167

Sho-Marufuji

Waitwhat.

Oh, I'm with them?

Crap, I better change my second post then.

EDIT: I'm extremely confused about this current story-line because of my late entrance, I think I'll re-introduce Sho in a later point, perhaps a private talk with Barrus about the siege of King Tinikinzar?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:17

#168

Midnight-Dj

@thin

Hmmm... that was poopy, you just debuffed Malkalack and removed the Vog spirit. That is godmodding in my book, I don't think I would like to do this any longer if you are just going to affect the story like this.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:21

#169

Thinslayer

@Midnight-Dj

I didn't really want to do it either, to be honest. I'll take suggestions on what you would have liked me to do. I'm not particularly interested in a fight scene, though.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:21

#170

Psychnade

A Suggestion

Maybe Cicero could still feel his connection with Vog, and try to reunite himself with the demon because of some inside madness.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:22

#171

Malkalack

Oh helm yeah!

It's okay, we discussed it in PM.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:23

#172

Malkalack

DOUBLE POST!?

/e is ashamed

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:24

#173

Thinslayer

Wut?

We didn't discuss it in PM...

Not that I remember, anyways. I'm pretty sure the discussion stuck to this thread.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:26

#174

Malkalack

Oh helm yeah!

@ Thinslayer
When someone LIES to cover for you, try not to make them look like an idiot. Thanks, :)

THAT SMILEY WAS SARCASTIC!

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:46

#175

Thinslayer

@Malkalack

I'm a Christian. Christians don't condone lying. So while I appreciate the thought, it's better not to lie for me.

Besides, I'm just as prone to making mistakes as anybody else. It's just that my being a GM amplifies those mistakes. So it's important that I be able to admit them, fix them if necessary, and move on.

Speaking of fixing mistakes, what solution do you guys recommend? I have a few in mind:
*Redact the offending posts and continue from the last coherent post (disadvantage: creates gaping holes in the thread)
*Continue with the story as-is and work around the offending posts (disadvantage: may leave the other players bitter)
*Edit the offending posts to remove the power-playing (disadvantage: opens the door to yet another pointless fight scene)

Any other suggestions?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:50

#176

Psychnade

MASS EFFECT

I'S LIKE THE LAST THREE CHOICES IN THE THIRD GAME >:O

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:53

#177

Darkwatck

Continue with the story as-is and work around the offending posts (disadvantage: may leave the other players bitter)

THis is my choice, sure it will leave some people bitter (Those effected) but it will keep cotinity and further more promote forward progression. After all we need to keep going, even if it makes some one angry :/

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:57

#178

Malkalack

Oh helm yeah!

Howsabout I have some "blessing" from Gwen or something that has the same effect or something. Or another cool effect. Or a winged girlfriend.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:57

#179

Malkalack

@ Psych

I destroyed the reaper. Screw it, I'm shepard. Ain't gonna make any other choice.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:03

#180

Midnight-Dj

@Malkalack

LOL, I chose the blue ending coz I wanted to play god on humanity, PARAGON ALL THE WAY.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:11

#181

Thinslayer

Noted.

Thanks for your input, Darkwatck. I won't finalize a decision until I've heard from a few more players within a reasonable time frame.

GMing has rarely been this difficult for me. :(

Allow me to explain my reasoning for the offending post.
-Malkalack wanted a Fallen Valkyrie to come to Cicero's location.
-A player currently controls the Fallen Valkyrie.
-That player character cannot plausibly reach the desired location within the desired time frame (i.e. ~immediately)
-I didn't want to leave Malkalack hanging.
-My own character (Gwenivere) was absent from the group.
-Gwenivere is a Valkyrie.
-She could plausibly have tailed Cicero because of his murder, taking the place of the Fallen Valkyrie in a minor plot twist.
-Gwen's character would have attacked Cicero with intent to kill.
-I figured Malkalack would want to turn that into a fight scene.
-I didn't want a fight scene.
-I didn't want to kill Cicero and take Malkalack out of the game.

What would you have done in that situation?

List of available GM tools:
-Power playing
-god modding
-NPC spawn
-Event spawn
-In-game plot device (Gwenivere, in this case)

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:12

#182

Sonosuke

#Sonosuks

Wait, didn't Gwen kill another character already? And is She the Queen Valkyrie?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:13

#183

Hazardous-Anomaly

I FORGOT

I forgot i was involved in this story, will be playing catch up, gimme a few

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:14

#184

Sonosuke

#Sonosuks

*sarcastic clap*

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:15

#185

Thinslayer

Gwen doesn't kill PCs.

Gwen doesn't kill player characters. I consider Vog an NPC.

Gwen is a Valkyrie, but I won't say whether she's the Queen Valkyrie. She's certainly not commanding anyone.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:17

#186

Malkalack

Oh helm yeah!

Except Cicero's heart.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:41

#187

Colray

erm

Hate to be interruptive but was I accepted?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:53

#188

Thinslayer

@Colray

Yep. Start anywhere and anyhow you want. I recommend approaching Barrus to join the hunt for the White Council (to kill them) and repel the (future) Morai invaders.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 16:00

#189

Colray

okey dokey

DAT sounds good be posting tonight :D

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 17:17

#190

Liminori

AAAGH

22 Bloody Posts? Jeebus, This place is so active now...

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 17:17

#191

Hexlash

@Thinslayer

It's not too late to join, correct? Mind you, I have not engaged within reading anything in the story thread.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 18:06

#192

Psychnade

Apologies

Sorry for all those OOC posts... :(

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:00

#193

Malkalack

Oh helm yeah!

I think Cicero will serve/work with/moon over Gwen for the next little while. Maybe help murder people.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:18

#194

Thinslayer

@Hexlash

It's not too late to join. If you don't want to read the story thread, I won't ask you to - it's a mess of pointless battles and heavy-handed GMing.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:23

#195

Sonosuke

#Sonosuks

Why were Cicero and Firebug even fighting in the first place?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:33

#196

Psychnade

Dead?!

So... Is the to dead? Do we need to remake the remake?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:34

#197

Malkalack

Oh helm yeah!

Nah... just waiting on the Slayer-who-isn't-fat

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:42

#198

Thinslayer

Patience!

I had a mandatory meeting at work from 4:30pm-6:30pm MST. We were basically paid to sit, eat cake, and listen to the managers talk for two hours. I had a good time. ^_^

All right, now to answer some questions.

@Sonosuke: Because Firebug and Cicero disagreed on the correct way to grab Gwen.

@Psychnade: Nope. What we need is patience, some tough GMing, and more effort on your guys' part to write a better story.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:44

#199

Sonosuke

#Sonosuks

I have no idea what you just said

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:46

#200

Thinslayer

@Sonosuke

What are you unclear on?

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