1) A toggle bind (not button hold) for Auto-Aim.
2) A cursor for controllers indicating where the character is facing. Even a small one!
3) Toggle for Guardians to see teammate's healthbars in Lockdown. We're supposed to support and heal after all.
4) Option to vote kick party leader through majority vote (for disconnect or other various reasons).
Don't kill me for posting this. :|
1)yes
2)that would be annoying
3)im not sure
4)what if there were only 2 people
1/ Would like to see that myself, although it's not essential.
2/ Pointless? I mean...you can see which direction your character is facing by...looking at your character.
3/ We don't need any extra HUD, lag or clutter on the screen. Keep an eye on the HUD or just assume that your teammates could use healing. Given the chance, you should just hold your shield up and allow them to heal and let them choose if/when to leave.
4/ Going solo is always an option, in which you can invite the other players. Disconnected players should always get some time to return, and afk players will eventually be idled anyways. Players all being able to kick each other would be messy; it's best to leave kicking to one party leader alone.
@Outlaw-Knight
4) If its a party of 2, going solo is exactly the same as kicking the other player. The only advantage of kicking a player is the player who was kicked gets to reform their party, where if you go solo, both parties are restricted.
@Darkbrady
4) Going solo restricts your party: You can't invite anyone until the next floor.
How can you both miss one of the most prominent points regarding Party control!?
HEAT!!
Go solo, ya'lose it. Kick out your buddy, you keep it.
Not the PL? There's the issue.
4) Going solo restricts your party: You can't invite anyone until the next floor.
No it doesn't. I do exactly as I suggested when that situation comes up. What would the purpose be of restricting your party?
@Psycho:
I guess after a certain stage you tend to forget heat even exists; it just stops being a factor in your decision process :(
"No it doesn't. I do exactly as I suggested when that situation comes up. What would the purpose be of restricting your party?"
Prevent alt-farming via loop?
Although theoretically this lop would consist of multiple alts being invited to a single 'anchor alt' stationed at the beginning of, say, and arena. I'm pretty sure you can think of all the possibilities from there.
Not that I do that, I have like, one alt. I said Theoretically.
"I guess after a certain stage you tend to forget heat even exists; it just stops being a factor in your decision process :("
Not for me. Seeing all that heat go to waste is almost enough to make me cry. (Not really, you get my drift)
Luckily I have lots of things to heat now :D No waste heat for me!
Yet :/
There's nothing stopping you from going solo then inviting people; you can even go solo and rejoin the same party. Arenas and such have a limit on them that prevent you from leaving and rejoining the same party and won't allow solos to send out invites, but even during the Dark Harvest there was no such restrictions in the CW Tunnels.
I mean, do a run of FSC and leave ten times throughout the run to change gear and you'll be able to rejoin whenever. So why should you suddenly be punished and deemed partyless for going solo? Especially if going solo was your only option (unreliable party, afk leader, unfriendly people etc)
Luckily I have lots of things to heat now :D No waste heat for me!
That's really just the issue for me. I don't like heat going to waste, but I simply have nothing left to heat. Whenever I do a run, I always take along any unheated stuff with me in a spare weapon slot, so all my 4/5* gear is maxed. The only times I need to worry about heat now is when I'm crafting something and doing the run specifically to heat it~
The reason you can leave a party and come back is 'cause...ok, there's no reason for that.
Last I checked, however, if someone goes solo and moves on, that person cannot be invited back until the original party overtakes person's last depth.
As for party restrictions, that might have been tweaked since I was last on. I was booted from an FSC part at the boss lift, and I couldn't even invite a friend to help me get something from the run.
I think I went solo at a boss terminal so I could solo the boss stages (RJP) and couldn't invite some merchanting friends to look at the recipes; party was restricted.
Idk, I'm not fully aware of the reasons and mechanics of a party restriction.
"That's really just the issue for me. I don't like heat going to waste, but I simply have nothing left to heat."
Yeah, but then there's the issue of people who need it. I forget who was once heating gear, and was booted from a party after getting lots of heat because he wasn't going to the boss stage, and they wanted another player.
Last I checked, however, if someone goes solo and moves on, that person cannot be invited back until the original party overtakes person's last depth.
I'm talking about going solo, then the solo'r inviting the rest of the party to join them. If your lead is AFK, you can go solo then invite the two others you were partied with to join your new party; essentially shifting party lead to you and leaving the AFK member solo in his own instance. This isn't restricted in any way.
I think I went solo at a boss terminal
Boss floors are like arenas and are restricted. If you want to return to Haven or something to change gear, it's best done at the elevator just before going down to the Boss floor (i.e, at the end of D27 before going down the elevator to Vana).
Yeah, but then there's the issue of people who need it.
Is a fair point for those who run PUGs, and worth making sure that they find out before taking such actions. I can afford to forget about heat because I don't really ever do PUG runs anymore; all mine are solo/friend/guilds, and most of the people I know don't need heat either unless, as said above, they're specifically doing a run to heat stuff, in which case we give each other all our heat~
By boss terminal you know I mean 'Clockwork Terminal before boss strarum', right?
"I can afford to forget about heat because I don't really ever do PUG runs anymore; all mine are solo/friend/guilds"
I can relate. I normally solo, considering PUGing normally ends up in frustration because my party members are completely impotent and clueless.
Seriously, One came in, invited another, to T3 while the friend had 3* gear while the latest addition kept telling us to revive him because his shadow gear was adequate for the Slime level we were doing.
Also, they got us all wiped and made a break for the lift because they were desperate to reach the core.
Granted, they came back, but only because more enemies appeared to block their way.
"in which case we give each other all our heat~"
...That squiggly line at the end made that statement that much more creepy...
Oh, no I didn't realise you meant that at all. I just call them Basil floors.
I've never tried going solo at Basil so can't confirm/deny this claim one way or the other, but I also can't see the value in having it coded as such, since they rigged Basil to not sell to anyone who joins on his floor. Going solo wouldn't achieve anything anyways so...unless it's just a restriction from before they implemented Basils no-sell-to-joiners policy and they just never removed it?
How was that creepy?! That statement was full of love! I get my girl to give me all her heat when I'm in need of some heating up~
NO!
Squiggly is its official name. No one likes tilde; it sounds like a a scary Aunt who smells like old person and enjoys hitting children.
Squiggly makes it sound rad and fun~
"How was that creepy?! That statement was full of love! I get my girl to give me all her heat when I'm in need of some heating up~"
Yeah, Dark? You're forgetting; this is the internet, you're scaring people.
Megatokyo ref: Last panel
" Going solo wouldn't achieve anything anyways so"
That's a little about what confused me, I assumed it was the 'party looping fix' people were on about.
Me inviting them was so I didn't have to type everything there for them to browse for what they wanted.
This is the internet; everyone loves the Squiggly, whether I sound creepy or not. Everyone loves me whether they realise it or not~
Well like I say, I'm not sure about that, but I can tell you that it'd be limited to Basil and not everyone in the CW; probably just an exploit guard from before they added better exploit guards. Keepin' in mind though, that you can still invite people directly onto a Basil floor just by inviting them directly to your party. If there is a restriction like that, it'd be from going solo before you send invites, so just inv them regularly when you reach Basil.
Not that that matters anymore regardless, mind you.
Thanks, Hall of Heroes...
Tilde sounds like when you're trying to cheat at Pinball.
Squiggly sounds like a Pokemon.
~Sev
Aaaaaand who doesn't love Pokemon?
'Xactly!
@Psycho:
At least we're making sure the thread is answered and our opinions are shared before the derailing? Free bumps, dawg~
Pokemon haters.
Duh.
But I lost almost all hope in Pokemon since Black and White. Diamond and Pearl got me a little irked, but Black and White totally killed me.
Seriously, they have a Pokemon called GIRDER.
Girder!?
And his pre-evolution is TIMBER. (or was it Lumber?)
/)^(\ Can't take this...Just as bad as Digimon 4 and 6...
Yo dawg, I heard you like bumps.
I blame Psycho.
...
...He started it.
~Sev
Aye, I do like bumps but I try to make sure that it's only really done when the thread merits it~
And aye, I feel that even by 3rd gen they just started to get lazy to the point of offensiveness. It's a shame though, because ignoring the bad pokepeople, the actual games themselves really do just outright improve with each generation.
Which brings me back to the point that pokemon is something everyone just can't stop loving, for one reason another.
Which brings me back to the point that everyone always loves the Squigglies~
Which brings me back to the point that sharing heat is an act of love and is therefore enhanced by the presence of a Squiggly.
Which brings me back to the point that one should always consider their party members and heat when kicking/leaving parties
Which brings me back to the point that parties are very accessible to leave, go solo, kick, join, rejoin etc as you wish, with only few restrictions.
Pfft, who said derail? We're bang on topic, here~
"Which brings me back to the point that sharing heat is an act of love and is therefore enhanced by the presence of a Squiggly."
/e facedesks.
~Sev
1) Yes
2) Not sure why that would be needed, it might get in the way of your view. Just the little things.
3) May become a problem with pendant-loaded allies, I personally just use the party HUD and mouseover names
4) I'm neutral.
Well, since you bring up a good point /draws plain Leviathan
...Let's get this over with, m'kay?