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Status Immunity, /walk Command, and Spear series~

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Tue, 12/17/2013 - 21:48
Mini-Gunide's picture
Mini-Gunide

Here are some ideas that I've came up with whether you like it or not:

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1. Permanent Status Condition Immunity.

Depending on how OOO would approach this, each knight should be given 1 permanent immunity to an element such as Fire or Stun. After doing so, the knight will never have to worry about being effected elements in regular situations such as: walking through fire vents or poisonous thorns.

2. The /walk Command.

Obviously in the game's files, a /walk ability would be nice to have. Constant running isn't always favored by everyone. Why should NPC's in Haven be able to do something we are not? (A /run command will have to be added as well)

3. A Spear Weapon Series.

Similar to the Almirian Crusader's weapon, a spear should be put as a usable weapon. Just like the Calibur and Brandish Series, the spear should have a Normal, Fire, Shock, and Ice series. Possibly giving Normal and Pierce damage to prevent a Flourish repeat. (Weapon attack style could possibly be: Stab, Stab, Spin Attack / Charge Attack being the Almirian Royal Guard, Lance Charge)

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 22:05
#1
Zaffy-Laffy's picture
Zaffy-Laffy

Status conditions are meant to serve as a challenge, so I don't think a permanent immunity is very balanced. I might as well take fire immunity and do FSC in my chaos set, no worries about fire anymore!

Walk does exist as an animation rig, which only toggles when you are stunned. I don't find walking a need, everything can be done with the running we have now.

Spears?

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 05:15
#2
Sandwich-Potato's picture
Sandwich-Potato
I believe I have been sniped.

Besides, you already CAN get status immunity by piling armor resistances with Sprite Perks.

Oh, you also walk in snow.

I don't think we need more weapons so much as balancing the current ones.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 05:18
#3
Masterreeve's picture
Masterreeve
I make you black, bluue and red all over

A big NO on the status immunity. Would be way too unbalanced and overpowered. As Zaffy said, You could potentially make an entire stratum useless by making it immune. Just take status resist armor and be glad that the damage is reduced to the extent that it is.

Walking actually would be nice. I'd prefer it to be a togglable button that would be mapped the the keyboard, as opposed to it being an emote command, That way we would have more access to it in the arcade without having to stop action and type it out.

For spears, do you want an entirely new weapon type making 4 in total? Or do you want spears to be a form of sword, much like how the Warmaster Rocket Hammer is a hammer yet a sword. If it's a sword, then ok as long as it isn't just a flourish knock-off; but if it's a new weapon type then no, since your description would basically make it function exactly like a unique attack combo sword. You would also have to come up with an entire array of new weapons to support the new weapon type.

EDIT: dam, Potato sniped my second post spot

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 05:24
#4
Masterreeve's picture
Masterreeve
I make you black, bluue and red all over

@ Sandwich-Potato

No matter how many armor resist points and pet perks you stack on, it is impossible to be immune to status (unless you mean the status wisps, which can be cancelled with 8.5 points in status resist). I'm pretty sure you can add as many points as you want, but they stop doing anything after a certain point.

Unless that was a direct response to Zaffy, the OP meant that he wants a way to turn walking on and off on purpose and whenever he wants, not just for a few seconds on one level in the game that will disappear in a few weeks.

New weapons is not a bad thing, as long as they are properly balanced before they are released. And not wanting any new weapons pretty much means you don't want the gunner update to happen at all.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 09:02
#5
Zeddy's picture
Zeddy

If you want shock to be removed just suggest for shock to be removed.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 15:07
#6
Sandwich-Potato's picture
Sandwich-Potato
Dat double-post time Masterreeve.

SOMEONE's got serious lag.

If we had permanent immunities to something, do you know what would happen?

Setting. 7:14 AM EST, Lockdown match.

A bomber surveys the corpses of his fallen teammates, prickled with FF and GF blows. A person in shock runs back to the base, only to spasm and collapse. He raises his Freezing Vaporizer or Jack Froster, hurling the cyan projectile. Mist, at absolute zero, swirls around the enemies.

Seeing the lone man, they swoop upon him, dashing quicker than the blind man can see. Mist is ignored as though it were air. The bomber is slain. He ragequits.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 15:32
#7
Dibsville's picture
Dibsville
<pun>

1. .................

2. I've wanted a toggle-able button for some time now. Nothing sucks more than trying to go slow in, say, the very first room in FSC and you BARELY skim the lava, especially when you're using Chaos, knowing that you could have avoided it by moving just a tad bit slower.

3. There's another thread on that...

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 16:11
#8
Mini-Gunide's picture
Mini-Gunide
Thank You For Your Feedback

1. Status immunity, though I figured was going to be 'smashed and bashed' by you humans. I put it out as a.. suggestion. But due to your replies, it is a horrible idea. Noted.

2. A /walk command doesn't HAVE to be used, merely just an add-on for others to use. Just because You don't like it, doesn't mean it shouldn't be added. It will not effect gameplay.

3. Yes there is a thread on that, congratulations. But I don't see any that went into depth as I did. Though a lot more can be discussed, at least I didn't just say "how about spears?".

@Sandwich-Potato - No I have no lag or fps issues while using my computer, I'd simply like to stand in a Fire Vent without burning (as a real dragon would/should do).

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 16:18
#9
Dibsville's picture
Dibsville
3. Yes there is a thread on

3. Yes there is a thread on that, congratulations. But I don't see any that went into depth as I did. Though a lot more can be discussed, at least I didn't just say "how about spears?".

You obviously didn't look hard enough. Try something more along the lines of "new weapon ideas", where some people have posted text walls about spears, don't just search "spears" and come to the conclusion that no one put effort into the idea of adding them.

+1 for the walk feature.

Also, dragons aren't immune to fire. Even in stories, dragons would have fire-fights against each other. A normal dragon would simply resist fire as its scales would make fire "slide off", so-to-speak.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 16:47
#10
Tedme's picture
Tedme
Um, not here to post really, BUT...

I'll just throw it out there that...

a. Walking could be fun, and
b. Nick did say that they have had lance idea on the table, thinking about it for a while now...

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 17:04
#11
Masterreeve's picture
Masterreeve
I make you black, bluue and red all over

@ Sandwich-Potato

That wasn't an accidental double-post. The first post, I was writing before you posted your response; I guess you just finished before me so it seemed like you posted first. The second post was in direct response to you, and I didn't feel like adding an EDIT onto my first post and turn it into a wall of text.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 18:34
#12
Sandwich-Potato's picture
Sandwich-Potato
Oh. Oops.

I just skimmed past your second post, as they were similar length so I was "oh look a double-post".

Mini, when did I ever say anything about you having lag? Was referring to Master.

Yeah, the spear? The Almirians are pretty much a FF charge attack. Besides, what type would it be? Shadow? No. Just no. Piercing? Hi there Blitz. Elemen-

/e was brutally burned to death by a Combuster charge attack.

/e uses his ER.

Anyways. You really have barely any detail on the spear. Take a look at Luguiru. When he's sane, he's so precise as to specify exact damage values, calculated on attack speed, average amount of monsters hit, range, and all that for most of his tweakings and such. Oh right. I forgot. You might want a life preserve in that sea of text.

We don't need another fire, shock, and freeze thing. We've got a Sword line, a Gun line, and a Bomb line. Multiple bombs for shock, in fact. The Caliburs, uh, don't have a status effect.

Oh, and: Possibly giving Normal and Pierce damage to prevent a Flourish repeat.

But but but that won't really work. It'll do less damage against beasts, obviously, so no one will use it over the FF considering how Beasts and Fiends are laughable. If they do the same damage, it won't be fair since the spear would do more damage on neutral or resistant monsters than the FF line.

And still a big fat

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on the status immunity.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 23:26
#13
Mini-Gunide's picture
Mini-Gunide
Hm.

Apparently this Sandwich-Potato human has trouble reading, and is for some reason butt-hurt.

@Dibsville: Your right, I didn't read it all, I just saw the first comment and labeled it as utter idiocy.

Also, if you as a group expect me to have HAD! read that page on Lances/Spears, your all idiots. I didn't realize everyone except me has seen that suggestion. I was unaware only Luguiru was the only one allowed to come up with such a touchy topic.

Thu, 12/19/2013 - 05:03
#14
Sandwich-Potato's picture
Sandwich-Potato
/facepalm

Apparently you feel like arguing in an immature manner, in which you employ straw-man, playground-like insults in an attempt to distract me from noting the insanely high amount of flaws in your goal. I do rue the fact that this may turn out to be your undoing as a decent Suggestor in the forums. T.T.F.N., good sir/madam/kid. Maybe someday you can reearn a small amount of respect.

Huh? No, I meant that LUGUIRU ACTUALLY GAVE DETAIL. Like you leave a lot to be inferred.

-Damage?
-Comparison against FF on Beasts, Fiends, Slimes, Constructs, Gremlins, Undead?
-Range of attack?

Still no on the status effects. You already know why.

And personally, I think it's better to balance our current weapons than to get new ones.

I suppose a /walk command is acceptable, but I'd much rather have a /petsprite or something command.

Oh, and calling everyone an idiot isn't the best way to improve your reputation and get people to take you seriously. For example:

-You employ a childish, immature way to argue against us, not saying anything logical to refute us.
-The fact that you didn't even bother to see if there was a thread about this already shows how little time and effort you put into the suggestion.
-You apparently look down upon "humans" as though they are inferior to your "obviously" superior intellect.

I found this in 30 seconds of searching for SK Spears.

Or this?

It's kind of obvious that you didn't really bother looking at the spear suggestions and FLAWS that people pointed out in other forums.

Oh, right. I should attach a facepalm.

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 13:16
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Usevnsevnsixfivfor's picture
Usevnsevnsixfivfor
@Potato

You mean like this?

NO

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 15:04
#16
Sandwich-Potato's picture
Sandwich-Potato
Yes.

Exactly like that. But I think it should be on fire as well.

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 15:09
#17
Eugothy's picture
Eugothy
Of course

On fire and with a black background

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 15:48
#18
Sandwich-Potato's picture
Sandwich-Potato
And for effect...

Make it out of flaming Slags! Stylish AND practical!

Tue, 12/24/2013 - 17:59
#19
Mini-Gunide's picture
Mini-Gunide
@Sandwich-Potato

Yes sir, egocentric child

/salute

Tue, 12/24/2013 - 18:03
#20
Rezzler's picture
Rezzler
Well, the walk command can be

Well, the walk command can be acquired with a piece of duct tape on your keyboard.

And status immunity....heck no.

Tue, 12/24/2013 - 19:12
#21
Mini-Gunide's picture
Mini-Gunide
Mhm

We've established the status immunity subject as a bad idea plenty of times already.

Tue, 12/24/2013 - 21:18
#22
Sandwich-Potato's picture
Sandwich-Potato
So why not scrub it out?

Once again, making immature insults isn't the best way to gain support for this Suggestion, you know.

Also, it's noted that you've made no effort whatsoever to have more clarity on the spear; damage, range, all those have been left off.

Wed, 12/25/2013 - 11:05
#23
Oskvion's picture
Oskvion
-1

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