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Tortodrones should TRULY reappear, wandering around the Clockworks in Stratum 6, even when the event is over.
Jue, 02/27/2014 - 14:56
Jue, 02/27/2014 - 16:22
#2
Exactly what they're supposed to be; something that you shouldn't mess with unless you know what you're doing and have good gear.
Besides the point, 2 of them at once is outright impossible, especially with respawning healers.
Jue, 02/27/2014 - 18:16
#3
#Sonosuks
The mission is Event-Only? That's totally not gonna have horrible repercussions down the line.
Jue, 02/27/2014 - 19:09
#4
It was heavily implied, yes...
Jue, 02/27/2014 - 19:26
#5
The event is til March 9th. I already have almost 20 shells. You need 28 shells in order to make a set from 3-5*. But I agree with Draycos.
Wait, would minimal damage count? Like throwing a pot at it?
Jue, 02/27/2014 - 19:56
#6
:/
I don't see the point, the shields are useless anyway apart from the look, I mean seriously, at this point we should all agree that offense > defence in SK. A shield that slows you down just doesn't float in my boat. I mean how many additional hit can they take than their non slowing counter part? One? Two?
And also, why just Tier 3? what about lower Tier 2? Where 3 star items are supposed to be found?
Jue, 02/27/2014 - 20:02
#7
Midnight, they have special shield bashes which cause cool explosions and hit monsters multiple times. They win. And MSI/D Low is barely noticeable; it's when you get to the 20-30% that you see significant changes.
Jue, 02/27/2014 - 20:06
#8
:/
@sandwich
So AoE shield bash? I never useshield bash and never will, the shield is still kinda pointless, and also, is it me, or is OOO really running out of ideas for new costumes?
Jue, 02/27/2014 - 20:09
#9
Because they're an extremely powerful enemy.
If they had to appear in T2, they'd only be in very specific levels. In the beta, they were usually found in Treasure Vaults, where they'd be passive until you hit them.
Vie, 02/28/2014 - 01:46
#10
and also, is it me, or is OOO really running out of ideas for new costumes?
Seriously, how long have you been here? The only reason this statement could make absolutely any forgivable sense is if you're a new player and haven't EVER read anything in the suggestions forum.
People keep thinking that the suggestions forum is useless, and that the developers never read it, let alone implement ideas from it. The reality is pretty much the inverse: The majority of things that are implemented into the game have been seen in some shape or form in the Suggestions forum, coincidence or not.
- Extra Shield Bash abilities
- Alternate Shield Bash trails
- More varieties of shields
- Returning tortodrone
- More traps
- Ancient Accessories
- Tortodrone-themed armor that shares the same color scheme as Ancient Plate Mail
Sound familiar?
Vie, 02/28/2014 - 02:35
#11
@HEX
For the record, I have been here for 1 and a half years. My steam accoun name is 'coralbow', you can check me on steam and you will see that I played around 800 hours of SK. And yes, the costumes sucked.
And what is wrong with me saying that OOO is running out of idea for costumes? The total war and TF2 promotion costumes are for the most part great, the Apocrean ones are somewhat poorly designed and didn't really match the theme with anything else in the SK arsenal. The dangerous/battle chef costumes are some what just cheap recycled content, so yeah, I think they really are running out of ideas for costumes. The love crest is dumb and I don't think any men will ever put that on any of their manly costumes.
-Extra Shield Bash abilities
Good, but I still don't use shield charge, and try to use it for anything other than stun is pointless
-Alternate Shield Bash trails
That is more work for my fragile PC, yeah, more lag...
-More varieties of shields
Offense > Defence, that is just how SK work, defence is meaningless, ask that to any chaos+SSW users, and where is the 'more varieties of guns' we are promised of?
-Returning tortodrone
Just another cheap way to burn some sparks, and I thought Grinchlin assualt was cheap
-More traps
Nova bomb just pretty much made vortex bombs obsolete, great and why is that spiked wall hurting me? Wall isn't supposed to hurt!
-Ancient Accessories
They look for the most part awful to me, see no point of collecting them, I want me pretty princess dress or my 4th of July Urmerica costume! Where are they?
-Tortodrone-themed armor that shares the same color scheme as Ancient Plate Mail
:/ So, more ancient themed costumes? Great, I guess.
And also, if you think OOO is listening to us, then explain this.
-I proposed a Gem socketing UV system last year, that is meant to give players more control to their weapon UVs without burning through millions of crowns due to bad luck or bad RNG. I never heard any news of that.
-Shard bombs, Zeddy said it, Kraky said it, any elite bombers in the town said it, and what do we get? Nothing but silence from OOO.
-Numerous forge suggestion, it still remains the same, a broken as hell system.
-Additional Lockdown modes, LD remains the same, where is my DOTA2 revamp that I was hoping for? Skill over Equipment damnit!
-Additional guild features, as much as I dislike being in a group, guild hall still remained as a white elephant for a big guild till today.
"well, OOO is not God, of course they can't make every wish come true"-Hex
But that is no excuse to make so many stupid game design mistakes and descisions. I have seen SK in its golden age, and I also seen OOO ruin it, rubyeclipse is gone, nick left, (and EoS is appearantly dead/hybernating?) what more? sure new players will come, but the damage is already done. SK is no longer the game that it is supposed to be, OOO, GIVE ME BACK MY GAME!
Ps. Is it me, or are you always hunting me down when I make a statement, if you are really trying to hurt me, then I would like you to stop. But if you think I am hypercritical and you find it annoying, then I apologise, it is apart of who I am, there are alot of other ignorant ppl other there in the forum, fight them, not me, I want this game to change for the better more than anyone else. OOO is getting better, but I am still not impressed.
Vie, 02/28/2014 - 03:29
#12
I'm just harsh, that's all, and the way you write controversial (but often opinion-based statements) clashes with how I like to write. I can't stand misunderstanding or people jumping to conclusions due to lack of information, it's a pet peeve of mine.
(Although I do think I have a subconscious enjoyment of jabbing people, especially those who are unusually uptight, the way they handle that determines whether they earn or lose my respect)
The point is, the fact that you dislike what was implemented in the recent update, and the fact that you dislike the majority of those points I posted is your opinion, they're not mine anyway, and they're not even OOO's ideas, they were suggested by our very own playerbase in the Suggestions subforum. If you think they sucked, then that's your badly-elaborated problem: don't buy them, and you'll be none the wiser.
It only took me a couple seconds to identify which Apocrean costume matched with each theme and I put my findings on the wiki for your convenience. The Dangerous costumes were a frequently suggested addition, you can think they're cheap reskins but that's exactly what the playerbase wanted. The Battle Chef costumes I don't think were that great but they sold, and I see players wearing them (and the black coat looks pretty neat in my opinion)
The love crest is dumb and I don't think any men will ever put that on any of their manly costumes
You're assuming two prejudiced things with this statement:
- Only men play this game
- Players only want masculine costumes
And also, if you think OOO is listening to us, then explain this
I said "The majority of things in the game came from the suggestions forum", not "The majority of things in the suggestions forum are in the game". There's an enormous difference.
I proposed a Gem socketing UV system last year, that is meant to give players more control to their weapon UVs without burning through millions of crowns due to bad luck or bad RNG. I never heard any news of that.
You're proposing a method to further cheapen the UV system? You say you were around for a year and a half but do you remember what happened when UV locking was implemented?
Shard bombs, Zeddy said it, Kraky said it, any elite bombers in the town said it, and what do we get? Nothing but silence from OOO.
I agree that Three Rings is slow to push out content and fixes. But what they're doing I feel is partially the fault of the playerbase: the ugly truth that all the majority of players want is new content, and to ignore the old broken content. I know I'm guilty, enjoying this event a little too much.
Numerous forge suggestion, it still remains the same, a broken as hell system.
Weren't the forge suggestions a reaction created by a combination of both the Radiant Drought and players who were so used to easy levelling having the equivalent of a pacifier ripped from their mouths?
Additional guild features, as much as I dislike being in a group, guild hall still remained as a white elephant for a big guild till today.
The upcoming guild hall update is just the beginning and will act as the base for many more exciting guild related features
It's a very "Iron slug buff/Tortodrones are coming" statement, but it's there.
I want this game to change for the better more than anyone else.
I realize this. But there needs to be someone to disagree with the rough edges of one's ideas: if we all agreed blindly to everything everyone else said then there would be no intelligent discussion, and you'd never be able to refine your concepts.
There are heaps of things that Three Rings should be implementing. But stating what they're doing right now is all bad like it's a fact would be false. (I mean, try and tell me that you didn't rejoice when you saw this update's bug fixes)
Vie, 02/28/2014 - 03:59
#13
@HEX
'You're assuming two prejudiced things with this statement:
1.Only men play this game
2.Players only want masculine costumes'
-Well, for start, can you proof that there is a large female gamer demography in SK? What is the male female ratio? 7:3? 6:4? 5:5? We may never know, and I didn't mention in my statement that I persumed that SK is played by men more, in fact, I am pleased to see more girls are playing video games, fun for the whole family.
-And for the second point, I did want pretty, feminine dress for my knight, I want him to look girly(why do you think I made valkyrie set for my first 5* set and use it as my forum avatar anyway?), "I want me pretty princess dress or my 4th of July Urmerica costume!" <---quoted from my original post. Yes, I want feminine stuff despite being a guy! But the pink heart is nothing more than a stereotype, why does pink have to symbolize love, why? Why not blue?
'You're proposing a method to further cheapen the UV system? You say you were around for a year and a half but do you remember what happened when UV locking was implemented?'
-For start, the gems are very hard to make, they require you to make two 1* gems to make a single 2* gem and so on, the process becomes painfull and it drags out the game time(instead of flushing down 20K cr into the punch toilet). And when you put the crafting and socketing/unsocketing cost together, you will realize that you have spent far more trying to get the UVs you want, but now they are more accessible to new players, who doesn't have 20K cr ready in their bank.
'Weren't the forge suggestions a reaction created by a combination of both the Radiant Drought and players who were so used to easy levelling having the equivalent of a pacifier ripped from their mouths?'
-But still, the fact that you can only get a forge success with maximum heat crystals make this system broken. I am pretty sure the med and small crystal heat option are complete and utter useless and only serves to piss players off when they fail the forge.
'The upcoming guild hall update is just the beginning and will act as the base for many more exciting guild related features'
-Again, you know OOO when it comes to bluffing, they said that guild hall will protect us from an unknown danger in the clockwork, where is it? They said they are working on a new antagonist, who is it? Still got no news on neither of those, and what is that single secret that nobody in Sk has found yet? The fact that the core is a genocidal demi-god who got locked away is trying to seduce us into freeing him(that is my theory)?
'But stating what they're doing right now is all bad like it's a fact would be false.'
-Again, OOO did hit and miss alot, and like I said a long, long, time ago in that guild improvement thread made by Mawa, that human make mistakes in their life. It is natural, but then again, you can't just keep make the same mistakes and just simply saysthat: "Well, lol, whatever, I am human :P" Human has the capacity to improve and I certainly hope OOO does the same.
Vie, 02/28/2014 - 04:25
#14
Well, for start, can you proof that there is a large female gamer demography in SK? What is the male female ratio?
That's not really relevant. Three Rings has sales data on their supply depot: if something sells, they'll continue to make more of it (they implemented more things because the Forever Love Puppy Mask and Love Aura sold so well last year, you should be questioning that instead)
But the pink heart is nothing more than a stereotype, why does pink have to symbolize love, why? Why not blue?
Now you're questioning society, not Three Rings.
Pretty sure it's more "we're getting around to it but there's so much cool stuff we want to implement but so little time" (design a game and you'll have this problem all the freaking time :P) rather than "bluffing".
they said that guild hall will protect us from an unknown danger in the clockwork, where is it?
I think you're missing the point that this is a pointer to the Lore. The swarm breakout occurs in the future, and that's when the Shadow Lairs take place.
Vie, 02/28/2014 - 16:02
#15
Alright, alright, let's stop with the silliness.
If you want to complain about how OOO interprets the Suggestions board, you do it this way:
OOO reads this board. However, they don't acknowledge all aspects of feedback.
-Acheron was buffed, when many asked for all brandishes to be nerfed with Acheron slightly stronger than the newly-nerfed Brandishes.
-Nobody liked the random explosions on Brandish charges, but making it 2-3 -> 5 explosions with the same power and status chance was both a QoL change and a sizable buff.
-New Shard Bomb feedback was almost totally ignored until a certain point where many users spam-mailed OOO, at which point they gave an answer the community didn't agree with. Then nothing.
-Tortodrones are re-released as a "content event" instead of wandering the CW's.
-etc., etc., rants you're sick of seeing day to day.
Vie, 02/28/2014 - 17:43
#16
Sticking on the subject
How would the regular tortodrone be? Just as powerful but less aggressive? (doesn't attack unless provoked). And if added what will they offer? (they can't offer shells or then the mission would become obsolete).
Personally I think this mission should be scrapped after the event so that tortodrones, both version can fit back into the clock works. The recipes should become available via basil in terminal rooms. As for the fiendish ID card they can be repurposed maybe allow access to hidden areas in fiend themed levels or maybe even help expand there lore (there craft cost should decrease too if this were to be implemented).
As for the reskin costume armor, it nothing special not to pretty but at least it's a reskin that's not just a recolor there some texture... of moss.
@Midnight yes PvP is very important part of a good MMO, the more ways to interact with other player the better. Just as important we also need more inter active environment.
This game back when mist still existed was doing pretty well and one of the main reason I heard why people liked it was because it was a legend of zelda style mmo, in which gear ruled and you character got stronger or better by getting gear that fits into the environment. I wish that they wold expand on exploration a bit more and made new ways to explore
I have to give credit to this game because of the way it is set up the lore is very expandable and flexible so I hope they take advantage of that.
Vie, 02/28/2014 - 20:05
#17
How would the regular tortodrone be? Just as powerful but less aggressive? (doesn't attack unless provoked). And if added what will they offer? (they can't offer shells or then the mission would become obsolete).
They can offer shells: since the Tortodrones would take longer to find in the clockworks as opposed to the convenience of the mission. If they were "regular" tortodrones as opposed to the corrupted ones, they could appear alone, and drop 1 or 2 shells instead.
Vie, 02/28/2014 - 21:02
#18
@hexzyle
You do got a point there I thought of it too, but he drop rate would have to be lower like normal mode 33% drop rate advanced 75% drop rate and elite would have 125% (one guaranteed 25% of a second one).
Vie, 02/28/2014 - 21:52
#19
@Amnimonus
@Midnight yes PvP is very important part of a good MMO, the more ways to interact with other player the better. Just as important we also need more inter active environment. -Amnimonus
I have to disagree with you on that one, SK never needed PvP, in fact, it is just an after thought add on(never really mandatory). There are some PvP exclusive games out there, like LoL or DOTA2, do you know how toxic their communities are? Yeah, when the stuff becomes personal, ppl tend to bring out the worst of themselves. The poison inside a human heart is the most dire venom of them all, we didn't born into this world to make each other happy, we are here to spread misery onto each other.
Team work is good interaction, but when one of your team member fail, every one tend to blame all the crap on them. It happens, if SK really want me to play PvP, then it has to be skills over equipments, like DOTA2, where everyone can use a champion to its full extent and be good at the game.
Sáb, 03/01/2014 - 06:27
#20
@Midnight DJ
Shard bombs, Zeddy said it, Kraky said it, [...]
Are you implying I'm a bomber..?
Maybe
I havn't done the mission yet, what are they like?