*beats the false prophet unconscious with his own shoes

Oh and, I would like to join any available market manipulation guild. I need the resources of a larger clan in order to play the market more effectively. IGN: Etendue

Etendue is great at hijacking threads!

>GoS1 ranting about crowns being undervalued when they are actually still overvalued.
of course it'd be disruptive to the experience of new players if crowns were valued correctly in the current scheme of things, that's why I'd want OOO to make the game more accessible to new players who dont buy CE via the exchange/real money. that'd also lower my estimated real value of CE because less demand/consumption.

I have made about 5k Crowns in 10 minutes of abusing the CE market. All you need is enough money to buy 10x100 of CE. He's also not using Caps Lock so I don't know where you got that idea. You probably abuse it yourself so you don't want it fixed.

That it's possible for people to buy up a bunch of CE and sell it on with a markup of hundreds of Crowns just indicates that the previous market price was well below what buyers are willing to pay. Higher-level players can farm bosses for CR, and can thus afford to pay more for CE.

As long as buyers remain willing to pay, vendors will keep selling at that price. Vendors will always seek to get the highest price for their goods. To do otherwise would be irrational on their part, so it's pretty pointless to blame them for such behaviour.

Meanwhile, what possible solutions exist to prevent wealthy vendors from buying up all the low-price CE and selling it on at a markup? It's all very well saying "it needs to be fixed!", but can you suggest ways to do so? Price-capping the CE market just means people will turn to the trade channel to sell their CE at their preferred (higher) price, basically creating a black market.

Maybe if Three Rings run another promotion like the Rose Regalia more people will buy CE for cash, which will expand CE supply and bring prices down again. Maybe if they add more crown-sinks to the game, money supply will shrink and CR will become more valuable. I'm not sure why they would, though - if players find it easy to use ME to grind for CR the spend on CE, they've no real incentive to spend actual cash on CE. Bad for the business.

Personally, I think things are still in a state of flux - the game is new, the playerbase is still expanding, the numbers involved are changing all the time. At the moment the CE market is small enough that a few speculators can buy up enough CE to manipulate prices. More people buying CE for cash and selling it on the Market would make that a lot harder. How do you encourage people to sell CE on the market? Well, funny you should ask - rising CE prices could well make it more appealling to sell CE for CR. The more CE vendors, the harder it is for price-manipulators to do their stuff.

So it's a self-correcting problem in which CE prices will be changeable for a while, but eventually settle on a more stable equilibrium.

How is this new? I've been doing it since the start of the game.

Price capping won't work for the reasons above. I believe adding a limit(5) purchases/sales being posted would help stop it. You can post more once 1(100CE) or more of your CE is sold or if you bought 1(100CE) or more. I also believe only allowing people who bought CE with real money should ONLY be able to sell it(flame me if you want, F2Pers).

1. get a job ( anything honest and legal, flip burgers ffs... )

2. spend $10 bucks in CE every ???? (3500 CE influx)

3. you now have:
- less time to play
- 3500 regular CE incoming to enjoy the game
- zero reasons to waste your time in these forums crying...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA your posts make me laugh with glee.....HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA lolololololololol superFAIL

Didn't I warn you this would happen? I warned you all but no you mocked and ridiculed me.

Egomania is an obsessive preoccupation with one's self and applies to someone who follows their own ungoverned impulses and is possessed by delusions of personal greatness and feels a lack of appreciation. The term egomania is often used by laypersons in a pejorative fashion to describe an individual who is intolerably self-centred. It is characterized by an exaggerated estimate of one's intellect, ability, importance, appearance, wit, or other valued personal characteristics.

Egotists have a strong tendency 'to talk about themselves a great deal...in a self-important fashion'; and egotism may include 'a grandiose sense of self-importance...arrogant, boastful, conceited' and self-promoting even at the expense of others - 'refusing to recognise others for their accomplishments'.

* They feel that rules don't apply to them.
* Their sense of self-importance and lack of empathy means that they will often interrupt the conversation of others.
* They get impatient and restless when the topic of conversation is about someone else, and not about them.
* They constantly use "I", "me" and "my" when they talk.
* During a conversation, no matter what topic is being discussed, they usually end up talking about themselves.

You need an ego to protect you? Haha, that's pathetic.However, I can atleast account for your weakness and perhaps penetrate that little "protection" of yours.

Yah I've got an ego, but you know what it keeps me sane. Until you have been through the secrets that are locked and hidden from me by my mind because they would shatter me, then you can talk about what you think you know about me. Without my ego, I would be an introverted, scared, crying, insignificant, little wimp, with a shattered mind and a broken heart.

The personal fable is a term coined by David Elkind (1967) that is used in psychology to describe a form of egocentrism that is characterized by an over-differentiating of one's experiences and feelings from others to the point of assuming those experiences are unique from those of others. A person might believe that he is the only one who can experience whatever feelings of joy, horror, misery, or confusion he might encounter.

An example of the personal fable: "You just don't know how it feels."

When the Something Awful Goons make more sense than most of the BNPs, it's rather shocking.

Well, Raul, the issue has been raised several times in the Suggestions forums, but we can't control whether the devs listen or not.

And gloating over their errors is just being mean-spirited, vindictive and spiteful, just like the rest of the BNPs who boycotted.

At this point I think I might just welcome the Goons to do SOMETHING in SK.

I did misread what you said a bit. And I really should clarify: I don't think you have to be crazy to see a therapist. If you feel like you don't have full control over your actions or feelings, or freeze up for irrational reasons, those sounds to me like extremely good reasons to see a therapist, even if by and large you've got your act together.

Any conversation we could have about what makes someone a Good Poster or whatever is completely unimportant next to that. If your mental state negatively impacts your life, you should talk to a therapist. Be well.

So I can't help but read Skype's posts like this anymore:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2EKZ4J5t4c

Wise Papa Smurf, CORRUPTED by his own power! Can no leader go untainted!

Also, don't nostalgia.

I say we raise the prices even further!

I thought you quit.

Just can't leave it alone, eh? It'll never heal if you keep picking at it.

Post something right.

Idiots pour out of the walls saying 'deal with it' and 'make your own game.'

The fact that whatever is right gets befuddled in the minds of idiots.

The point becomes moot, and nothing is accomplished due to close minded thinking.

These forums accomplish so much. Just look at what was accomplished by everyone hating the ruining patch. Absolutely NOTHING.