Sounds like a great idea! So is this gonna be a series of mazes?

I had a few spicy chicken nuggets before this thread.

In case that influences my reactions.

Pull up a chair and sit next to me while we read this together. Not on my lap. Get your own chair.

"I have an idea for a new array of the Clockworks -- with a twist."

Does it involve a sister?

"The Sky Clockworks is an ancient, yet tremendous, sky temple. It was originally from the original people of Cradle from long ago -- way before the Skylark crashed on Cradle. The Sky Clockworks would be covered by moss, cracked stone, and occasionally filled with monsters that still inhabit the very floating island above Cradle."

Since when was an ancient temple floating over our heads? How do we get up there? Why are we going up there? Because messing with old stuff is fun? Who built it? Gremlins? They built the Clockworks we use now, but why and how did they build the same thing in the sky? If there is another Clockworks in the sky, how does that work? The existing version works because it goes underground to the very center of the planet. How far does this sky version go? Outer space? How many gremlins had to implode in space to build it? Why do you want gremlins to implode painfully in space? To mess with old stuff?

"Though a strange, yet unknown power source that is not as much as the Core, but yet treasures await in that very power source, filled with swords, guns, shields, Crowns, armor, helmets, and even a bit of Energy."

So we could detect an energy source at the very center of the planet, undoubtedly surrounded by dense metals and what not which would get in the way of detection, but we completely missed the obvious flying Clockworks derping around in space. Oh, and it also has a bunch of equipment which just happened to be stored there while those imploded space gremlins from earlier were moving to a better neighborhood. Something about death not being the best way to live.

"But the Sky Clockworks is very large indeed -- maybe larger than the Clockworks. Amass the entire temple are 2x the Clockworks, filled with enemies from the clockworks, but elements are twisted, or at least random."

Do you know how planets work? You have the planet, this big kind of spherical thing that floats around in space. Space is pretty big. So the circle thing has a lot of solid materials to it, you know, like rocks and metals and stuff. Stuffy stuff. Stuff you can poke. Stuff you can headbutt. Stuff you can urinate on to mark your territory. Keep all that in mind, especially the territory part. Inside that big lump of stuff you can have stuff inside of it. Stuff inside stuff. If you go away from the stuff, into space, you go into a void which goes on for a really long time with nothing except other lumps derping around in space. Keeping up? Now imagine, watching one of those lumps close enough to be pulled down from gravity yet not because nothing has to make sense in fiction, twice the stuff which is made of the same kind of solid stuff as in the lump of stuff it is not sitting on or in yet is somehow floating out there. Oh hi stuff. What are you doing up there? Come down here and be stuff with the rest of the stuff.

"Caution yourself on the very temple -- but since its large, and very old, the elevators there are broken -- instead of 10 Energy, you would pay 5 Energy, due to the Sky Clockworks tremendous size."

So an old and broken elevator system takes less energy to power than the normal and well cared for Clockworks. Why? Because the thing is old? Are you making fun of the elderly? Does your grandpappy know about this? What about grandmammy? How about dinosaurs? Do dinosaurs know you are making fun of them right now?

"Crowns are somewhat less valuable than the present crowns on Cradle, and natural physics don't apply 1/2 of the time."

Somewhat less valuable. What does that mean? What if you just took derpbillion crowns from this space-sky-flying-spaghetti-thing, brought it down to the surface, and it suddenly has more value? Or does it have less value down here than up there because there are merchants up there? Why are there crowns up there? Imploded space gremlins got into banking? Why do physics not work? Because this is in space? With all the imploded space gremlins floating around?

"The Sky Clockworks almost touches space -- should you find yourself at a twisted version of Lord Vanaduke or some other boss -- either way, it seems a good challenge for 3-star Knights."

Oh, so it almost touches space yet physics are broken. Because stuff is going on in the sky. Sky stuff. Why is there another Vanaduke up there? Because making new content for new content is stupid, but recycling old content even though we already have Shadow Lairs is better? Why are 3* knights fighting a T3 boss when T3 is supposed to be 4*+? Because you are a 3* knight and want to advance without having to play through what the game currently is? No, playing the game to play the game, that is the stupidest thing ever. We should all have pissing contests over the edge of the Emberlight city to see how far we can go.

"Weapons there are really powerful -- half of the treasures are 5-star weapons. Others are 2, 3, and 4 star treasures. Tokens are more valued by traders and Knights, yet somewhat being able to be traded. There are ruined, but still working, Energy posts scattered around the temple."

Weapons are powerful, you get high star rated items without having to work for them. How does that make them powerful? Weapons are already powerful. Oh, wait, I forgot; you are a 3* knight who wants to get to 5* without working for it. Well stick a pair of tapeworms up my nostrils and play some country for them to dance to. Somehow tokens are more valuable and are apparently up there, because a Clockworks in the sky should be the exact same thing as the one we already have but you get 5* equipment from drops all the time so no one has to play the game longer than an hour before getting everything then quitting forever to find a real game to entertain them.

Ready for the final stretch?

"Adventure on an unknown temple in the sky."

If it were possible to liquify Nicholas Cage and inject him directly into your veins, I would do it. In your eyeballs.

"Find treasure, and maybe even Energy."

Ohboygoshgollygeetiddlywinks, treasure. What kind of treasure? The treasured kind. Also, even though you spend energy to access these floors, you get energy pack for spending energy. How balanced does that sound? You get all kinds of treasured treasure treasurably to get the entrance fee refunded so you can feed inflation until the price of CE is well over 1,000,000Cr:1CE within a week. That sounds like the best thing since sliced ham.

"Defeat the ancient evils in the temple."

Oh no, evil. What kind of evil? The evil kind. No, even better, the elderly and evil kind. Making fun of old people again.

"Save Haven, and even Cradle, from a threat from the sky."

They may not be doing anything and have been derping around completely unnoticed for years, but they must be a threat because they are different from us and must be bad and evil and killed. That sounds familiar.

"A place where low-levels can finally rise in the ranks"

You know, that makes me think. Where can low ranked players ascend through the ranks with easy to access assignments which also give them free stuff? Oh, I know. Missions. In the Clockworks. You know, that thing with the stuff.

"Available missions for Rank 5's and above."

Is rank five supposed to be "new"? That should be around "I at least know a little what I should be doing and if I met a newb fresh from the camp I can help them because I am about half done with the whole rank thing, but what the liquids".

"New Mission selection, called " Ancients " "

Ohboyg- I already used that joke. So this is a mission named after something kind of relevant to how it looks but has absolutely no detail to how any of it works at all whatsoever. Remember how those tapeworms in my nostrils used to dance to country? Now they commit suicide because of how stupid this is getting. Are you happy? You made my nasal tapeworms commit suicide.

"More Priestage, harder levels."

People can already generate infinite prestige over time. How much time? Doing the three prestige things available every single day in every weak in every month in every year in every decade in every centur- Prestige is irrelevant. What about harder levels? How hard are they? Harder than the armor on Roarmulus? What about the mask Vanaduke hides his eyeballs behind? How about those giant metal bars gremlins keep dropping in paths? Is it easier to bend those?

"Silver and Shadow keys scattered about the temple randomly"

"Hey Three Rings, I know these two keys are huge sources of money for you, but now everyone is getting them for free." Imagine their reaction. You would be thrown out of a third story window within seconds.

"Find the Alpha Team -- trapped in scattered cages through bosses."

Alpha Squad is inside the core of the planet. You know, that thing at the core of the planet. That means inside the planet. Inside the giant thing of stuff. We already went over how stuff works. Stuffily.

"Boast about your adventures in the Sky Clockwork Temple."

"Hey guys, I just did that thing with the stuff in space. It gave me a bunch of free really valuable stuff for doing some other stuff."

"What kind of stuff?"

"You know, stuff stuff."

"You mean like stuff stuff? The kind of stuff with stuff?"

"Totally, bro."

"Tubular, bro. We should, like, stuff tapeworms up our nostrils and dance to some country."

"Far out, bro."

"More people in your team. ( max. 8 )"

Ladies and gentlemen, please be seated. The event is about to start. Tonight we will treat you with a classic masterpiece, 'Ode to Lag'. We have two knights playing the Nitronome, another two playing the Irontech, another two playing the elegant Big Angry, and four playing the masterful Pulsar. If your connection is not absolutely perfect and sterilized of any trace of lag you will spontaneously combust within ten seconds of the performance beginning.

"Enjoy a awesome adventure."

Did you say awesome?

Well.

Well.

When you put it that way.

I guess I better find that really big knife in the kitchen and visit the local elementary school. I wonder how many are curious of how I clean it so well. Maybe even let them try it out for themselves. Their newfound interest in dining ware is to die for.

"3-star weapons will pop up in every room, 75% of the time."
"4-star weapons have a 50% chance to pop up on the third half of the temple."
"5-star weapons have a 25% chance to pop up on the 4th half."

Do you know how many rooms there are in the average floor, assuming these have the same floor layouts as the existing Clockworks? Many. Do you know how many free 3* equipment that is? A lot. I should have a little fun with the 4* and 5* drop rates but that would be like laughing at those tapeworms who killed themselves earlier. Do you get some kind of sick pleasure from this? You make me seem like the most generous person around here. At least I let the innocent tapeworms live. In my nostrils. While dancing to country. Since when do I like country?

"Crowns have a 75% chance on being dull and give half the price of the present crowns in the original Clockworks."

Why have crowns in there at all if the equipment drop rates are so absurdly high? People can just vendor the equipment since it would be worthless when everyone has twenty of every single item of every single star rank.

"Sometimes you'll get recipes instead of weapons 50% of the time... which seems good enough."

Have you seen your own drop rates? Do you know what recipes do to our economy? Sink the energy price. Do you know what you are doing? Making the CE market a million crowns for one measly CE. One. Not two, not one hundred, just one.

"Bosses will drop more valuable loot - either recipes or actual items."

Bosses already give tokens for defeating them. They also already have the chance to drop equipment. It may not be as stupidly high as you want, but the possibility is still there.

I almost want to apologize to Blandaxt for being disgusted by his threads. In comparison between you and Blandaxt, the little booger deserves to be Ozlo for a day. This thread is definitely the absolute worst thread I have ever seen and I have been significantly amused in making this post to discuss every feat-

Wait, I forgot one last thing:

"All the monsters deal 2x damage, so thats basically why its made for 3-star knights and higher."

Maybe one or two people are going to get this reference.

Double the damage of what? My pants?

Thank you, you have been a lovely audience. You can stop throwing tomatoes now. I will be here all week. Good knight folks.

While people are reading all that I have a few things to say before I go back to my apartment in hell. This thread offers no creative content, only taking what we already have and making rewards drastically high with stupid counterbalances like "double their damage derp herp". Do you think that would work for the normal Clockworks? People tried suggesting that. They were beaten, eaten, and then a gang of kittens came and did both those things over again. This thread makes absolutely no sense. You have the Clockworks, a complex system which absolutely needs to be in the planet to be plausible. floating above our heads. Magically. And it can be twice the twice the size of its counterpart. In space. Magically. The drop rates for equipment are definitely the worst part and have no reason to be there. Things already drop free stuff, what more do you want? More free stuff? To stuff up your nostrils?

Even if you get rid of this thread I am going to save this post. I am going to print this post and put it on my mantle in a frame. Anyone who comes by is going to ask me to flush the thread down the toilet like most people would with the same kind of stuff (stuffy stuff) then I will slap them with the corpses of the tapeworms you made commit suicide.

Well I do not appreciate stupidity.

It gives me the runs.

I was on the can for the past hour.

Luguiru, I do believe that that big post has made up more than half of this thread.

/applaud

> Purgatory Asylum, How can I help you?
- (me) I think I have found your escaped patient.
>Name?
-Um... is it Luguiru?
>(Sounds of screaming in background)
-Hello?
>RUN! Just RUN!
-Why?
>He's too dangerous. Run while you still can!
-What's the big deal about one patient?
>One patient is fine, unless it's Luguiru.
-What's so bad about him? He's just one person.
>It isn't about him. It's about what he did.
-What did he do?
>(Connection Breaks)

"A bully is a person that acts mean against another person"

You want me to be mean?

So far I have been having a ball with this thread. A really big multi-colored one. It even bounces. This is fun. I link silly things. I make silly jokes. You and thousands of people out there are too sensitive to realize subtle humor.

"sometimes involving physical attacks or shouting words at the other person"

Yes, because I am physically beating you right now. Feel the wrath of my virtual fists of fury. I am also shouting words at you with various text fonts and/or all caps sentences, though the only time I consider myself to be yelling is when I use exclamation points at the end of the sentence because that means exclaiming something. I am such a violet, loud person.

"In this case, Lugi was posting just irritatingly rude comments on this post"

Naked grannies.

Is that irritatingly rude enough for you?

"I clearly did not expect that"

You know what not expecting something means? Emotion. Having emotion. Sometimes that emotion is fear, like if I linked a jump scare. Which I never do. Sometimes that emotion is sorrow, like if I made you sad somehow. I have no idea what makes you sad. You know what makes me sad? People not getting subtlety. They just see the weird expression on my face and run to mommy. Is my face too weird for you? How about I change it up a bit? Do you feel better now?

"some people call him the "Grinch". "

I want to know who calls me that.

I want to know so I can gather them all together and talk to them in rhymes while wearing a neon green armor set about how I plan to steal all the presents from Havenville to stop all the noise, noise, noise. It would be funny. You know, that thing from not too long ego. Emotion. Most people have it somewhere. I keep mine in my left pocket. See? Wait, that was the liver I found trying to jump from a two story window. Fortunately I caught the suicidal squishy thing and have been raising it as a single parent. Which is why I created the Foundation for Actively Integrating Livers, a program designed to help livers find new homes in the bodies of people who need a transplant. Donate today and get a free button with our initials on it.

If any of this offends you be sure to point it out so I can make fun of y- I mean, discuss it with you. Now come here and give me a hug.

subtle humor

I sometimes like to read your utterly ridiculous and random posts, but I must say that the adjective "Subtle" is not necessary here.

~Sev

@Hexyle
The best post of the year is this: http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/48217#comment-320334

-Imbalanced OP
-people complaining about OP being imbalanced and unspecific
-OP poster becomes slightly defensive
-random funny post
-the beginnings of a flame war
:/

My thoughts:
-Make some ideas with actual content. Not dramatic propaganda and whatnot. This is a suggestion, not a trailer. This is also the suggestions forum. We like details here.
-Learn some more about the game. Play it through to the end before you suggest content to let players advance more quickly. See if the problem you're solving really exists, or you just don't know the solution.
-Spiral Knights is an MMORPG. MMORPGs do not have campaigns.
-Luguiru isn't being a bully. He's pointing out all the things wrong with this idea, in a comical way. He's not even making fun of anyone or being mean. Except maybe to elderly people.
-The bosses sound like a trojan, another Roarmulus Twins, and another Vanaduke.
-Don't use being 11 as an excuse for being uncreative. (by the way, I don't know any 11 year olds who could type these big posts in less than several hours). If you aren't actually 11 and were using that as a figure of speech, I apologize. But it's still not an excuse.

It's not that we don't like this idea. You just need to balance it and make it make some lore sense.

<(^_^)>

Lol

11 years old OP? that means he cant play spiral knights! he must be at least 13 years old!

This is officially the best thread. Think I'll bookmark it for a rainy day.

(Oh you can talk to Leafblader about the bump. =P)

I think someone's a bit out of context >.<

the fact is that you are going do destroy the two things that put this game together: story and buisness.
story:
"ok knights, we are going to try to get another energy source, in another planet. it has twice the size of cradle, and the energy it emits it's not so much as the core of cradle, but whatever. also, more mass means more gravity, so jump to conclusions. no, we are not going to save the energy we have to get to this new planet for the skylark, don't ask why. also, we may encounter more dangerous enemies. prepare yourself, because it will be long."

buisness: well the only item I have found in the clockworks was a voltbreaker shield, 2*. I think there is a reason for that. if you get one gift once in a while, people will not complain. if you get too many OP gifts in a day, and practically finish the story in a week, it's not a game anymore, it's just "go, spamspamspam, win". and then it will be boring and you will not play anymore.

I know I have dumb moments but geezus...

Luguiru you just earned my respect, that was the best read I ever had on this forum, looking forward to your next :D

- Silver Keys are hardly found in areas, randomized in after bosses or found 10% at the top of the Sky Clockworks.

They are hardly found anywhere... Can they drop? I never heard of a Silver Keys dropping, but I could be wrong...

- Shadow Lair keys have a 20% of spawning in the half point of the temple.

Why? Oh right you're poor...

- 3-star weapons and recipes are now more common in the Sky Clockworks, originating from all 3-halves of the entire area. Frabjous joy day for low-ranked knights who are eager to pass the next tier.

/sigh

So all that time I spent getting to 5* gone to waste? Wait let me just grab 10 mules, box this game and get 3* gear over and over again for 3.5k cr each? Good idea, from zero to rich in 6.5?

- 4-star items are randomized at the top. 50% of them popping up in the Treasure Room.

/facepalm

- 5-star items have a 5% chance of spawning in the Treasure Room, and have a 2% chance to spawn anywhere.

They barely has 1% of spawning as of now, just so you know... 5% is a lot when millions play a game

- Recipes are more common than swords, guns, armor, helmets, or shields. This will change by the vote of the public.

Vote? Hey guys what you want more... useless recipe or the item 5*? (because if we get 5* items, what's the point in recipe, really?)

- You'll most likely get a duplicate of an item -- one for you and the other one to sell for any price of CR or CE.

No **** Sherlock, check the drop rates...

- Items may have a "Broken" affect on them -- which means they have 50% less defense than regular items -- this works for Shields, as they would break in less hits by enemies.

So once your item is broken you have to find a new one? Let's just sell it for 30k cr and grab my duplicate, no worry. One might even spawn, heck 5% chance, I got a Book of Dark Ritual within 100 tokens. Items will be easy peasy to collect

- Guns may have a "Discharge" affect, which means they won't charge at all.

That's probably the only good point you brought up... And still... could hardly be used in SK

- Guns may have a "Pierced Battery" affect, which means it takes twice as long to charge up a gun -- similar to other suggestions for ranged weapons.

You mean Low Battery? Because when a battery is pierce, there's acid coming out of it and it's probably more lethal to use that acid then a broken gun...

- Swords may have a "Cracked" affect, which means they have a limited durability and break within a matter of hits. Number for hits left on the Sword will show above the Sword icon next to your Health and Heat bar.

So repair bills or once it's cracked it will broke eventually? again no worry, I got plenty of dupes laying around because I don't need cr and got duplicate of every items

- Swords may have a "Mixed Element" affect, which means the regular element of a Sword will be swapped with another, for example - Elemental weapon's element switched with Shadow element.

Would love to see a Voltedge with Shadow on it and the rage on ppl face... "hey you know that Voltedge that took me ages to craft because of krogmos? Well it's now an electric Acheron! But I already have 1 Acheron that does elemental damage and another that does piercing so I'm good"

- Silver Keys may have a "Broken" affect, which means they break when trying to use it on a Lockbox. This may happen 50% of the time.

You have a thing for broken stuff do you?

- Shadow Lair Keys may have a "Broken" affect, which means they won't work 50% of the time on entrences to Shadow Lairs.

Well it doesn't matter anyway they have 20% drop rate just by entering a "floaty treasure vault"

- A 5-Star Sword may be dull and useless, the fact that items there were abandoned and left to rot for years. Items like this will give less damage, and more damage on the Knight.

But... if they keep on dropping... then it's not old... I mean... After loading up 100 times the Treasure Vault it will still drops items... they are new items no? I don't follow the logic... but again you have a thing for broken stuff don't you? (maybe even broken logic)

- Any Star-rated Sword may have the "Clumsy" affect, which 25% of the time will "hit" the Knight on its own -- this is common in heavy/Guardian swords.

Yes because our Knights cannot properly wield Sword on the "floaty ancient island" but they can charge bombs and aim with guns properly...

I have never seen such broken logic but it made my day

WHY DID YOU REVIVE THIS THREAD

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT YOU HAVE UNLEASHED?!?!?

/e hides

TL:DR Tried to revise to stave off the logical people, didn't work. It just seems like you want moar stuff without the need for more crowns or CE. It also seems like your dimensions are a bit off, if it was a HUGE temple in the sky wouldn't we have noticed it by now, like a huge shadow or falling bricks? It also seems. We already have a set drop system.

Why have something DROP a 5* sword like the FoV even though it SHOULD only be available to people that have gotten enough Almarian seals. If this were implemented I SHUDDER to think of the massive repercussions this could have on the economy, lag, and the fan-base in general. And practically what everyone else said earlier.

is this supposed to be a suggestion for a new expansion or is this just like the normal clock work adventures but instead of goin down, its going up?

I think you should remove the part where you get the 5 star stuff and junk. It would make the game pointless.

Also....THIS IS GONNA LAG!!!!

I want you to read this post. Then I want you to see if you still think this is a good idea.