Though it is against the forum rules to "Re-create threads that have been Graveyarded, locked, or unpublished" doing so is sometimes accepted when the second version has taken feedback into account to refine its ideas. The problem here is you did not adhere to that second part which means all this thread is doing is breaking a rule.

I am going to leave this and that on the coffee table and show myself to the exit. There are kittens that need to be stacked in silly designs.

Oh dear god, not again.

You suggested 1vs1 again, not a wise decision. Curse and stun pads, fine in training hall but not in Clockworks. Lockdown and Blast Network allows friendly-fire, now how are you gonna train if you get killed? Weapons in haven, no again, show-off.

"1vs1 pvp for colesium: I've heard this from many of my friends and others playing. I think it could give u practice against your friends and others. You can even start a tournament if u wanted. Rewards would be like winner gets 4 krogmo coins or a free weapon as a rare reward. Players get to choose their opponents and the opponents get to choose if they want to fight. There is a 10 min. Time limit like in lockdown. Most damage and kills wins restricted weapons are allowed if the players agree."

Okay, Okay... You have basically destroyed the whole definition of Lockdown.
So, you wanna practice against your friends? Now tell me how there is teamwork involved.

Now the reward system gets very very unbalanced. 4 coins?! Seriously? Honestly I think this calls for farming and exploits. 2 people join a match, one of them leaves, the other is crowned the winner. Repeat till forever.

Here comes the time when you say "Okay, how about removing the rewards" then the 1v1 is redundant.

Then you go again "If one leaves, then both of them don't get rewards" Okay, let's troll. Play for 9 minutes, suddenly leave because you were losing. Or when someone has an absolute need to leave... unfair...

After which "okay, how about a minimum time limit, say 2 minutes, then if someone leaves, the results are just calculated and then the winner is determined" Let me just play for 2 minutes then, each time.

So technically, there are always reasons why LD comes in at least 4v4 and not above 6v6. Too little, friends come and exploit. Too many, gets laggy and the game isn't fun anymore. Never, ever, raise, 1v1, ever, again.

Type it a little nicer, says the guy who uses "u" instead of "you".

In the previous thread you made, I criticized on how redundant the 1v1 is, because it has no form of award for playing against a friend. Now you come up with a reward system, I understood why there was never meant to be a duel among a few people only.

@Hyiaku Please do not complain on my typing. I am sure that I can convey the message to everyone out here. If you need some clarification, please say so.

@Fleet-Miss-Gun Now you are just being insensitive, so please stop asking questions that invades the privacy of people. You are also generalizing that people below the age of 13 are not of suitable age to be posting on the forums.

It does not mean we have to discriminate the fact that people below the age of 13 should not be allowed to play. It is only a standard set to prevent kids from being abused, usually through cyber bullying. It does not generally disallow people who do not meet the requirements from playing.

The ToS stated "You must be at least thirteen (13) years of age to use Spiral Knights. You represent, warrant and covenant that you meet this age requirement." Note how it suggests that people "represent" themselves as above the age limit. It means I will be taking you as if you are at least 13 years old, someone who is understandable.

Please, for the love of spiral knights...let this thread die too.

420 EFFING RESULTS

That idea has been suggested over 400 times already!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stun and Curse traps

Why so much hate for these? I think this is actually a pretty good idea; sure, Stun and Curse can get you killed really fast by a mob, but Shock is worse, even than Curse (with Curse you can still Shield Bump at the right times, with Shock... you'll try to bump, spasm, get surrounded by those Volt Knights, get shocked again...), to say nothing of how easily you can get destroyed at full health by a Freeze trap. As for their not appearing... well.

Let's look at Graveyards, where monsters fear to tread, mostly because of the Knights that breeze through them like any other level. Why not replace the spikes with maroon "sinister mist" traps? It deals Shadow damage with a high chance of Cursing any poor sucker that doesn't watch where they're going. Not enough to make them difficult, but it's a start.

As for stun, who said traps all had to be floor traps? Large swinging pendulums in the Clockwork Tunnels would suffice; they could swing from one side to the other every three to five seconds, causing heavy Normal damage and strong Stun to any poor sucker that didn't time it. Rewards timing, which you better have anyway or you'll never make it to Tier 3! Why are they there? Let's say the Gremlins hook them up to the main circuit to act as traps while generating emergency power supplies for use in the event of a generator crash. Multitasking. Smart Gremlins are smart.

PvP Training

Sounds tricky to implement, and as Aureate said, AIs have this bad habit of being stupid. (Just look at Fire Emblem, with its enemy axe fighters that try to attack Lyn when she has a 100% chance to dodge the attack and then another 100% chance to counterattack and tear them apart in two shots.) That said, it'd be a nice thing to have, so newbies come in prepared for Coliseum games and know something of how to contribute.

1 vs. 1 PvP

Should not have rewards. Otherwise, I could just open up my brother's account that he never uses anymore, put it in the wimpiest gear I can find to fit it in the same tier, and beat the crap out of it repeatedly, and never have to set foot in LD or BN proper to get myself that Triglav recipe. Betting on rewards, however, would work; in that respect, it would be much like RuneScape's Duel Arena, except more fun because Vortex.

Aside from that, I pointed out another problem with 1v1 PvP in the previous thread: it would take fifteen seconds to load and ten seconds to end. Get around this and don't give rewards and we're good.

Weapons in Haven

I don't think anyone expected you to be able to kill anyone with weapons in Haven. No, my worry is the lag issues that will inevitably result. People complain of the lag and screen flash caused by one guy with Nitronome. Imagine what would happen if a group of 100 people decided to troll Haven by dropping Nitronomes and Big Angry Bombs everywhere, with another group of 50 aiding them with Polaris. The lag would be horrendous, and all the really bright red and blue and green flashes would give someone a seizure.

Wearing them at your side, of course, is OK; I for one would really like to be wearing four different Vaporizers at my belt, and the gunslingers among us would find it really awesome to have their Antiguas or Alchemers or whatever in holsters at their sides. But keep them holstered. We don't want the Symphony of Nitro, a quartet is enough.

EDIT: Oops, you pointed out you couldn't spam them. Okay, good.

Do I have to pull out my .50 Action Express? Or will you leave this thread to die?

I'm packing my things and heading for the pawn shop. Time to buy some .50 rounds and casings.

Reason for blast network training hall: No, Blast network was a copy of another game. (We don't need a BN training hall)

Lockdown training hall: I believe it's been suggested before I still say no.

1vs1 pvp for colesium: The whole point of lockdown is to work as a team.

Weapons in haven: There is this thing called "Inspect" (If the player doesn't allow full inspect they have the rights for privacy)

First some nitpicky stuff, Nick is a developer, not a Game Master.

Curse and Stun pads
Sure. Learn about new statuses = good.
+1.

PvP(LD/BN) training hall
Sounds good, but you need details. How would BN training work? How would LD training work? Would LD training only be for fighting, or would it also explain and demonstrate point capture mechanics? I hope it wouldn't be all fighting, that just further dumbs down the LD playstyle. How would you prevent people from using this instead of normal LD? How would you program the holograms to be good enough to fight knights?
+.75

1v1/duels
No comment.

Weapons in haven
What's wrong with inspect? Plus, Haven is a town, presumably there may be civillians. Are you allowed to carry a big metal stabby stick into your downtown?
-1

Everyone.......

Graveyard this.

I posted about 1v1 tournaments here: http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/74815

if u dont like it then dont read it.

By the same logic, if you don't like me coming over to your house and defecating on your carpets that you've just cleaned, don't clean the carpets. If you don't clean the carpets, or even look at the carpets, the smell will go away on its own.

@Hyiaku Who was the guy who said that we should be able to give our opinions?

Not that we are scolding you or making you feel stupid or anything, but if people disagree to your suggestions, you should accept it.

@Arkate You shouldn't be disagreeing without proper and legitimate arguments at hand. It is just as much as a claim, but without solid proof that your opinion on these suggestions hyiaku gave are valid.

I've been watching.

Consider the suggestion flawed. After you made a new one of the same type despite having an arguement. Look. Most of the suggestion is a NEGATIVE. People find it either unessisary, or bad. They made it clear on the last one.

Exept curse pads. Meh. Considering that there's text explaining how most statuses work, I knew from the get go what curse was like. Could be useful for the boneheads that we call our newbs.