this is purely to get awareness spread that, yes, we cant barely find radiant fire crystals anymore
me and 3 friends did tier 3 runs ALL THE WAY THROUGH, and got less then 7 radiants, and during vanaduke capped at 6 radiant crystals
i hope this is a glitch, because if its not, it isnt funny, and its ruining the finally fun to play spiral knights weve had since elevator costs evaporated
please post if you support this getting fixed, and if youre going to spam that youre some lazy player who loves this for the shinings, then get the heck out of this thread
lets fix this shining/radiant fire crystal glitch already
Wed, 10/16/2013 - 22:37
Wed, 10/16/2013 - 22:57
#2
Sandstorm inbound
Quote from stabbed man:
"What are you gonna do, stab me?"
On a more serious note, the lack of radiants is making tier 3 a much less promising place... If Firestorm citadel was forever changed to shining fire crystals, but the arcade still kept them, it would be fine. But alas, that is not the case. I suppose I'll stock up on shining fire crystals while I can.
Wed, 10/16/2013 - 23:09
#3
If shinings are rarer and
If shinings are rarer and more prized by crafters, then why do you want this patched ASAP? >.>
I have 1,500+ radiants (used to have 2K, but I had to downgrade/forge) and I have about 65 shinings (increasing as we speak). So... I don't see what the point of showing this to the GMs is.
And to save my own hide, I'm not saying I support this oversight, I'm saying we should let it stay with us for a while sort of like a promo that says "Hey crafters! FSC now gives Shining fire crystals! Go there now!"
Wed, 10/16/2013 - 23:21
#4
It's not a glitch, try playing somewhere BESIDES fsc. I get 3+ rads per floor average.
Wed, 10/16/2013 - 23:44
#5
@Batabii
Oh hello. Long time no see. How have you been?
Like The-Mighty-Potato said on his thread about forging and being sick of grinding for fire crystals, If the BEST PLACE for money, heat, and fire crystals is FSC (I know you can't get every material there, so don't even open up with that), why, for the life of everyone in the universe, would ANYONE play anywhere else? I do know for a fact it will be patched (will it?), but regardless, my statement stands true. I don't care if it gets boring. I don't care if it's the same 4 (or 5 if it's a whole run) exact levels. They contain the greatest amount of collectibles every (unless the new boss proves otherwise). I happen to enjoy FSC, and you can't change anybody's viewpoints or opinions other than your own (well that's entirely subjective as in it depends on the topic, and in this case, crystals and FSC. FSC is best place both a fact, and my viewpoint. Yours is far different, You can't change mine nor can I change yours. So take this as a more or less "reminder" if you will).
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 00:41
#6
It's not just FSC, guys...
I haven't even played FSC for heat crystals--I mainly just stop in daily to do the Prestige Missions. I do some Danger Missions and get a healthy few dozen heat crystals that way. I don't get a ton every week, but it's enough to keep working on my 5* equips at a slow pace.
Now the DANGER MISSIONS don't have Radiant Fire Crystals either? That pretty much negates any desire to use Sparks of Life in them. In other words, I will be playing them a lot less (and by extension, the game as a whole).
I hope this is fixed immediately.
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 00:56
#7
At first I thought everything
At first I thought everything got scaled back in anticipation of new missions that are "harder" and therefore deeper in the Clockworks. But hey, if even Prestige/Danger Missions are giving lower payout, this does seem to be a dilly of a pickle.
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 01:11
#8
Letting off steam is healty too
I notice you are frustrated.
I hav not been playing elite (advaned core runs), but I have gotten raids here and there. A few, but i've been playing on advanced/normal. (Too laz- oops)
PLEASE NOTE:this is only part 1 of the arcade redux and as such has bugs,
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 01:20
#9
OP ≠ Thread Rulemaker
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 01:37
#10
@Maharito
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 01:59
#11
Ah! others have noticed.
Welcome to the new sk where you must pay large amounts of cash to finish or game or grind the same 2 missions thousands, possibly millions of times. The place where you get hundreds of bound low level crystals you can not sell to get the radiant fire crystals you need to heat the gear to become a vanguard. If you haven't noticed, every time you use that slot machine called a forge, you are also required to gamble with larger and larger amounts of crystals. But the most interesting part of this system is that you gain heat faster than you obtain the crystals. I only hunt boxes now and still manage to have all my weapons and gear ready to be forged long before I have 25% of the crystals needed to forge. On two occasions I spent the $9.95 on e to buy the radiant fire crystals, only to have the forge fail, and someone sent me 3K in e.
Have fun all you F2P'ers who wanted mist removed. I did the math. I'll be back in a few years to see if you became vanguard yet.
(If you're lucky, you'll get 3 to 10 RFC's per floor running Alone in the Dark on Elite. You're only other option is Vanna on elite. But remember, the forge eats 100+ per item per forging.)
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 02:08
#12
@Iamnoone
On two occasions I spent the $9.95 on e to buy the radiant fire crystals, only to have the forge fail
That happen when you don't pick the 100% one.
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 02:27
#13
"Have fun all you F2P'ers"
Since this was released I was a free-to-play player. I guess I became paid by buying Operation Crimson Hammer.
"I'll be back in a few years to see if you became vanguard "
There are people who have vanguard and are still free to play (I am slowly getting to vanguard)
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 02:48
#14
If this is permanent:
*
If this is permanent:
* Farming for crowns to buy radiants is faster than farming for the crystals themselves.
* It costs 6.3kE to buy enough radiants to heat a 5* item to lvl 10. Lvl 10 5* items just get a lot more valuable.
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 03:01
#15
@Zipb
Thanks for noting that. I hope this Radiants thing is indeed a bug and not intentional now, at least, not without new missions with RFC being added later.
Otherwise, it'd be kind of a dick move. I mean, sure, OOO needs to create crown/energy sinks. But this seems kind of overly mercenary if it's intentional.
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 03:17
#16
@Awoogawooga
EDIT YOUR POST! FOR THE LOVE OF VOG EDIT YOUR POST!
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 04:19
#17
The arcade is getting some love soon and I can only imagine that means more boxes. For now if you need to get radiant crystals fast then I suggest doing Firestorm Citadel or Alone in the Dark 9-2. Otherwise just enjoy the game for what it is! :P
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 04:40
#18
I've got a suggestion. Do
I've got a suggestion. Do vana on elite with friends and get the BOXES!
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 05:02
#19
^
Have you guys actually checked anything before posting? FSC boxes drop shinings, too. If you get a few radiants after defeating vana, consider yourself lucky.
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 05:19
#20
Confirming new trend
D28 seems to be the only depth dropping Radiants now.
Previously, it was D22-D28.
There is probably a reason for this: They are making something harder and want an equal spread of crystals. The only hint that I could gather from the "In Development" thread is the challenge mode, since there seems to be no mention of a higher tier.
Aside: Has anyone checked SL's yet? I have a strong guess they still give Radiants.
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 05:32
#21
This....is......so......annoying
Tommorow there will be radiant fire cryatal everywhere... Well, that what I hope for...It's like a daily routine, today shiny, tommorow radiant....
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 05:36
#22
...
Well, in general, heating up 4* gear should generally be less troublesome than upgrading 5*. Before the update, it was vice-versa. Still, I think that the scheme should be a bit different: stratum 1 should drop Warms, stratums 2 and 3 - Glowings, stratums 4 and 5 - Shinings, and stratum 6 - Radiants.
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 06:05
#23
my 2 cents
Having over 1k (now at 700 I had to up 2X 5* items) Radiant and with my friend who is at 3k++ I can tell you one thing
FSC
FSC
FSC
30-60 Radiant per run
T3 strata 5 runs = 10 to 30 Shining (depends if you get Treasure vault or not)
There is no problem at all.
Learn to farm in the good spots (also mobs don't drop much fire crystal vs treasure boxes). FSC is a guarantee 30 Radiant. We are in a PvE guild, I can tell you a lot about farming XD
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 06:12
#24
@Shamanala
So can I. And my data disagrees with yours.
Also, mobs never drop FC's.
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 06:45
#25
so, I didn't do FSC, but guildies said they took shinings on vana. good thing, but if you get shinings on the arcade too...
please no OOO. well, sort of. at least arcade S6 should drop fire crystals. work something out for FSC, but don't take away 90% of the radiants. how am I supposed to get my new (future) 5* gear on level 10? how are new champions supposed to beat FSC with level 5-6 gear? cause if those are the numbers, it will happen.
to OP: you'll only attract trolls with that attitude of "no post if you don't agree". cut it out your post.
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 07:46
#26
@Shamanala
When was the last time you did an FSC run? Because since yesterday, 3-6 radiants per run (yes, 3-6) has been the new norm.
Oh, and mobs never drop rarities. Where did you get that idea?
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 08:38
#27
"Water... gun"
People aren't reading the posts. What a surprise.
The issue isn't finding places to farm Radiant Fire Crystals. The issue is that those places (Stratum 6 in Arcade or the King of Ashes/other Stratum 6 missions) suddenly started giving ONLY Shining Fire Crystals, with the VERY RARE batch of Radiants.
Want proof? Okay, good thing I took screenshots of the two Tier 3 Arcade runs I did today. One of the runs had FSC after Basil, the other had normal levels after Basil.
Depth 27, right before the elevator to Vanaduke. Only Shining.
Depth 28, after Vanaduke. Moar Shining as well as the only 3 Radiants from the whole run
Proof that I only got 3 Radiants...
... but got 75 Shinings.
Now for the no FSC run
Only 3 Radiants... again.
45 Shinings. Even worse than the Arcade run with FSC.
I guess OOO wants us to farm FSC even more, at least if we want to stock up on Shining Fire Crystals...
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 09:26
#28
I like it this way. HAH.
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 09:43
#29
It's a bug, don't worry. The
It's a bug, don't worry. The main question is when it would be fixed.
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 09:44
#30
This is ridiculous! I just
This is ridiculous! I just got used to the forge, and now THAT. I that case, maybe OOO should cancel five-star gear at all?
P. S. Hoping for bug.
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 12:02
#31
It's not a bug got this from support
Greetings,
We typically make minor adjustments to drop rates and locations as part
of our ongoing management of the game. Some variation should be expected.
Best wishes,
- Hyperion
I have 3 5* weapons need heat stuck at levels 7,7 and 8. I was a few days of farming from finishing them up. I'm still leveling other stuff too, I am not too happy with this change as I did 3 full tier 3 arcade runs with no radiant at all and the last two days prestige mission same thing.
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 12:23
#32
"Bright light! Bright light!"
@Movinfusion
I can only hope that's bogus and you're just trolling. But I can't help feeling like it's legit...
I do hope they "fix" the drop rates again because given the amount of crystals we need to actually forge something to level 10 and the time it will take to gather said amount when we only get 3-10 crystals in D28, then SK just became one of the worst grindfests I have ever seen. And SK was supposed to have "No Grinding" (It flashes by, on the top left corner).
Well, the game had/was supposed to have Golden Trojans and Vog Cubs for us to fight, but we all know where that ended up...
Eh, guess I'll just go level the 4 star stuff I still need to craft to 5 star and then let them rot in my arsenal instead of spending weeks levelling them up. I feel sorry for new players though; most people I know got to upgrade and heat their stuff before this whole Crystal mess came along.
EDIT: Just noticed - "We typically make minor adjustments to drop rates and locations as part"
"make minor adjustments to drop rates"
"minor adjustments"
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 12:23
#33
This whole "Glitch" business reminds me of those Arby 'n the Chief episodes where there's a glitch that's making people's armor permutations disappear & they all start going insane, until they hear that a patch is coming up & they go continue their day as if nothing ever happened.
I wouldn't be surprised if the exact same thing happened here.
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 13:04
#34
erhm...
Oh, and mobs never drop rarities. Where did you get that idea?
erhm... not on Shamanala side but mobs actually drop rarities... they drop SoL and drop fire crystal from time to time...
And lol at people with "data" spread sheet.
*a month ago*
"I am swimming in Radiant and I can't find shinning!!! HELP OOO, I DON'T WANT RADIANT I WANT SHINNING!!!"
*OOO puts shinning instead of Radiant*
"I NEED MY RADIANT FIRE CRYSTAL TO HEAT UP!!!!!"
SK community is the worst
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 13:11
#35
ok. I understand giving 4* the possibility to pass 5* HoH with more ease. I understand that all new players from now on will have a happier time.
I don't understand that I can get 3* fire crystals and 5* orbs in a treasure vault d22. I mean, ok, all crystals got tiered down, but a chance of spawining things you won't need... no, that's not needed.
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 13:11
#36
@Rhagnarock
erhm... not on Shamanala side but mobs actually drop rarities... they drop SoL and drop fire crystal from time to time...
Proof? My fairly large dataset speaks otherwise. There are a couple situations where it may seem like they drop them, but there are boxes in a mob spawning area (Ex: some wolver dens and deconstruction zones). Even if they do (which I doubt), it would be on the same rarity as weapon/armor drops from boxes.
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 13:17
#37
erhm...
I have 200+ SoL and are at work on my alt, I do FSC regularly (working a lot and update got in the way due to the time frame, EST here).
I have seen SoL and Fire Crystal drop from mobs so many times on FSC on so many occasion, if you haven't then you must not play a whole lot. Just 2 days ago I dropped a SoL on a trojan on D26. It DOES happens (fire crystal from ice enemies is also something I remember, because of how funny it is, HoI mobs dropping fire crystal XD)
I don't even need proof, I have been there and seen it. FSC not dropping 5* is a bug and if they haven't changed RT or JK, you can still loot Radiant there....
Nobody checked that out though huh?
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 13:21
#38
Patch
The time that i post this a new patch is coming out in 45 minutes, i very much hope so it would fix this "bug". But i did not recieve patch notes yet so i will have to wait to confirm that.
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 13:23
#39
OP's probably giggling at the chaos that's insuing here.
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 13:31
#40
@Rhagnarock
FSC not dropping 5* is a bug and if they haven't changed RT or JK, you can still loot Radiant there....
JK and RT never dropped Radiant, lol. Last depth of RT you could barely get shining before they changed it.
Your credibility is approaching "none at all".
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 13:40
#41
"Water... gun"
@Rhagnarock
You must be super lucky. Most people I know never had a mob drop Heat Crystals or Sparks of Life. Inb4 "you probably don't play a lot". I didn't get 2500 hours on SK by idling on Haven.
About the crystals... I don't know why people complained that they didn't find Shining Crystals. OOO even made those recipes that allow us to use Radiant crystals to craft Shining ones :I
"I don't even need proof, I have been there and seen it."
That is one of the silliest things you can say on the internet. Just because you say you saw it happen doesn't mean it actually did.
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 13:52
#42
Just a question
Ok, as we all know, since the 16/10 patch, in stratum 6 you will now only be able to find shining fire crystals, instead of radiant ones (except for depth 28, where you can still find some). Does anybody know if this actually is a bug? Patch details doesn't suggest any change to the fire crystals drop rate, but...
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 14:36
#43
-
keep it plox (i can do whatever i want, OP)
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 14:40
#44
@Zipb
Knowing me, would you honestly think I'd go a day without FSC?
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 15:16
#45
rhagnarock
Im going to go ahead and call BS on your "mobs drop FC and SoL" because let's face it. They don't. You might think you saw one drop from mobs, but you didn't.
source, from the wiki: Sparks of Life can be earned via missions, found in treasure blocks as rare loot drops, or purchased in bulk at a discount price of 200 energy for 10 sparks in the Supply Depot or Kozma.
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 15:18
#46
Look at the bright side... This is a good opportunity to rake in shining crystals using the same methods for raking in radiants.
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 15:25
#47
@Writhes
That's what I keep saying/thinking.
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 15:53
#48
!!!
I submitted a ticket and got nearly the same response as #31...
Da [scrap]? Is 000 serious right now?
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 15:57
#49
You are experiencing a PICNIC ERROR!
Perfect! I need those 4* Heat Crystals!
Oh, guys, you have to know this...
You don't need to heat up your 5* gear to progress! You can have aaaaall the gear you want and be aaaaalll the pro you want to be, but still have level 1 stuff!
In short, level 10 5* items are now exclusive to energy buyers, let it be with crowns or without.
Thu, 10/17/2013 - 17:00
#50
actually?
actually? This is the best thing thats happened to me! I have an avenger to forge, grand flourish, and shadow driver.... I NEED SHINING FIRE CRYSTALS! I mean.. I already have over 600 radiants so im fine with those... whats hard to find are the shining fire ones :P of which i am in the most dire need :D
THANKS OOO FOR THIS WONDERFUL GLITCH
and for the rest?
DEAL
WITH
IT
You can't tell me what to do.