If shinings are rarer and more prized by crafters, then why do you want this patched ASAP? >.>

I have 1,500+ radiants (used to have 2K, but I had to downgrade/forge) and I have about 65 shinings (increasing as we speak). So... I don't see what the point of showing this to the GMs is.

And to save my own hide, I'm not saying I support this oversight, I'm saying we should let it stay with us for a while sort of like a promo that says "Hey crafters! FSC now gives Shining fire crystals! Go there now!"

Oh hello. Long time no see. How have you been?

Like The-Mighty-Potato said on his thread about forging and being sick of grinding for fire crystals, If the BEST PLACE for money, heat, and fire crystals is FSC (I know you can't get every material there, so don't even open up with that), why, for the life of everyone in the universe, would ANYONE play anywhere else? I do know for a fact it will be patched (will it?), but regardless, my statement stands true. I don't care if it gets boring. I don't care if it's the same 4 (or 5 if it's a whole run) exact levels. They contain the greatest amount of collectibles every (unless the new boss proves otherwise). I happen to enjoy FSC, and you can't change anybody's viewpoints or opinions other than your own (well that's entirely subjective as in it depends on the topic, and in this case, crystals and FSC. FSC is best place both a fact, and my viewpoint. Yours is far different, You can't change mine nor can I change yours. So take this as a more or less "reminder" if you will).

At first I thought everything got scaled back in anticipation of new missions that are "harder" and therefore deeper in the Clockworks. But hey, if even Prestige/Danger Missions are giving lower payout, this does seem to be a dilly of a pickle.

OP ≠ Thread Rulemaker

Welcome to the new sk where you must pay large amounts of cash to finish or game or grind the same 2 missions thousands, possibly millions of times. The place where you get hundreds of bound low level crystals you can not sell to get the radiant fire crystals you need to heat the gear to become a vanguard. If you haven't noticed, every time you use that slot machine called a forge, you are also required to gamble with larger and larger amounts of crystals. But the most interesting part of this system is that you gain heat faster than you obtain the crystals. I only hunt boxes now and still manage to have all my weapons and gear ready to be forged long before I have 25% of the crystals needed to forge. On two occasions I spent the $9.95 on e to buy the radiant fire crystals, only to have the forge fail, and someone sent me 3K in e.

Have fun all you F2P'ers who wanted mist removed. I did the math. I'll be back in a few years to see if you became vanguard yet.
(If you're lucky, you'll get 3 to 10 RFC's per floor running Alone in the Dark on Elite. You're only other option is Vanna on elite. But remember, the forge eats 100+ per item per forging.)

"Have fun all you F2P'ers"

Since this was released I was a free-to-play player. I guess I became paid by buying Operation Crimson Hammer.

"I'll be back in a few years to see if you became vanguard "

There are people who have vanguard and are still free to play (I am slowly getting to vanguard)

Thanks for noting that. I hope this Radiants thing is indeed a bug and not intentional now, at least, not without new missions with RFC being added later.

Otherwise, it'd be kind of a dick move. I mean, sure, OOO needs to create crown/energy sinks. But this seems kind of overly mercenary if it's intentional.

The arcade is getting some love soon and I can only imagine that means more boxes. For now if you need to get radiant crystals fast then I suggest doing Firestorm Citadel or Alone in the Dark 9-2. Otherwise just enjoy the game for what it is! :P

Have you guys actually checked anything before posting? FSC boxes drop shinings, too. If you get a few radiants after defeating vana, consider yourself lucky.

Tommorow there will be radiant fire cryatal everywhere... Well, that what I hope for...It's like a daily routine, today shiny, tommorow radiant....

Having over 1k (now at 700 I had to up 2X 5* items) Radiant and with my friend who is at 3k++ I can tell you one thing

FSC

FSC

FSC

30-60 Radiant per run

T3 strata 5 runs = 10 to 30 Shining (depends if you get Treasure vault or not)

There is no problem at all.

Learn to farm in the good spots (also mobs don't drop much fire crystal vs treasure boxes). FSC is a guarantee 30 Radiant. We are in a PvE guild, I can tell you a lot about farming XD

so, I didn't do FSC, but guildies said they took shinings on vana. good thing, but if you get shinings on the arcade too...
please no OOO. well, sort of. at least arcade S6 should drop fire crystals. work something out for FSC, but don't take away 90% of the radiants. how am I supposed to get my new (future) 5* gear on level 10? how are new champions supposed to beat FSC with level 5-6 gear? cause if those are the numbers, it will happen.
to OP: you'll only attract trolls with that attitude of "no post if you don't agree". cut it out your post.

People aren't reading the posts. What a surprise.

The issue isn't finding places to farm Radiant Fire Crystals. The issue is that those places (Stratum 6 in Arcade or the King of Ashes/other Stratum 6 missions) suddenly started giving ONLY Shining Fire Crystals, with the VERY RARE batch of Radiants.

Want proof? Okay, good thing I took screenshots of the two Tier 3 Arcade runs I did today. One of the runs had FSC after Basil, the other had normal levels after Basil.

Depth 27, right before the elevator to Vanaduke. Only Shining.
Depth 28, after Vanaduke. Moar Shining as well as the only 3 Radiants from the whole run
Proof that I only got 3 Radiants...
... but got 75 Shinings.

Now for the no FSC run
Only 3 Radiants... again.
45 Shinings. Even worse than the Arcade run with FSC.

I guess OOO wants us to farm FSC even more, at least if we want to stock up on Shining Fire Crystals...

It's a bug, don't worry. The main question is when it would be fixed.

Greetings,

We typically make minor adjustments to drop rates and locations as part
of our ongoing management of the game. Some variation should be expected.

Best wishes,

- Hyperion

I have 3 5* weapons need heat stuck at levels 7,7 and 8. I was a few days of farming from finishing them up. I'm still leveling other stuff too, I am not too happy with this change as I did 3 full tier 3 arcade runs with no radiant at all and the last two days prestige mission same thing.

This whole "Glitch" business reminds me of those Arby 'n the Chief episodes where there's a glitch that's making people's armor permutations disappear & they all start going insane, until they hear that a patch is coming up & they go continue their day as if nothing ever happened.

I wouldn't be surprised if the exact same thing happened here.

ok. I understand giving 4* the possibility to pass 5* HoH with more ease. I understand that all new players from now on will have a happier time.
I don't understand that I can get 3* fire crystals and 5* orbs in a treasure vault d22. I mean, ok, all crystals got tiered down, but a chance of spawining things you won't need... no, that's not needed.

I have 200+ SoL and are at work on my alt, I do FSC regularly (working a lot and update got in the way due to the time frame, EST here).

I have seen SoL and Fire Crystal drop from mobs so many times on FSC on so many occasion, if you haven't then you must not play a whole lot. Just 2 days ago I dropped a SoL on a trojan on D26. It DOES happens (fire crystal from ice enemies is also something I remember, because of how funny it is, HoI mobs dropping fire crystal XD)

I don't even need proof, I have been there and seen it. FSC not dropping 5* is a bug and if they haven't changed RT or JK, you can still loot Radiant there....

Nobody checked that out though huh?

OP's probably giggling at the chaos that's insuing here.

@Rhagnarock

You must be super lucky. Most people I know never had a mob drop Heat Crystals or Sparks of Life. Inb4 "you probably don't play a lot". I didn't get 2500 hours on SK by idling on Haven.

About the crystals... I don't know why people complained that they didn't find Shining Crystals. OOO even made those recipes that allow us to use Radiant crystals to craft Shining ones :I

"I don't even need proof, I have been there and seen it."

That is one of the silliest things you can say on the internet. Just because you say you saw it happen doesn't mean it actually did.

keep it plox (i can do whatever i want, OP)

Im going to go ahead and call BS on your "mobs drop FC and SoL" because let's face it. They don't. You might think you saw one drop from mobs, but you didn't.

source, from the wiki: Sparks of Life can be earned via missions, found in treasure blocks as rare loot drops, or purchased in bulk at a discount price of 200 energy for 10 sparks in the Supply Depot or Kozma.

That's what I keep saying/thinking.

Perfect! I need those 4* Heat Crystals!

Oh, guys, you have to know this...

You don't need to heat up your 5* gear to progress! You can have aaaaall the gear you want and be aaaaalll the pro you want to be, but still have level 1 stuff!

In short, level 10 5* items are now exclusive to energy buyers, let it be with crowns or without.