Spiral Knights - Rise of Knights

Rise of Knights - iOS and android

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Tue, 07/21/2015 - 05:12

#51

Redmania

Initially thought it was a

Initially thought it was a scummy company that was stealing SK's assets.

Then I saw the OOO logo and I knew that all hope was lost.

SK is already just selling you slot machine tickets in their prize boxes (1% chance for the item you want???)
This new mobile game isn't going to be any different.

This business model is cancer to the game industry. SK honestly had so much potential.

Any way to convert SK assets into steam currency directly via steam?

Tue, 07/21/2015 - 09:12

#52

Traevelliath

@Redmania
This business model is cancer to the game industry.

Few things.

First, there are far worse business models in the game industry. I'd say the AAA industry is doing far more harm to video games as a whole than F2P MMOs like SK.

Second, there are far worse business models in F2P MMOs in the game industry. At least SK has you spend money to get things you want, rather than things you need to proceed. Even Radiants can be farmed with patience.

Third, is there another business model that you'd prefer? Keep in mind, you can't just make everything obtainable for free because, believe it or not, OOO is a business and businesses need business models that are good for business.

Please don't be one of those really annoying doomsayers who proclaim that all hope is lost. They are making a spin-off game, not a lead balloon lined with depleted uranium.

*EDIT* Woops, few typos.

Tue, 07/21/2015 - 10:53

#53

Foxbyte

Heh

How dare OOO expand their horizon into the mobile game genre that is super popular right now!? It's almost like they want to make money :/
Altough I don't personally have any strong feelings one way or another on this, I think this is hoenstly a good business move by OOO. Maybe more money flowing in means more content? Who knows, just relaxand see what happens all you doomsday sayers.

Tue, 07/21/2015 - 12:01

#54

Ironclaw-Mender

Quick glance at it and so far

Quick glance at it and so far it just looks like Final Fantasy All The Bravest: Spiral Knights Edition
It's cool that Spiral Knights will live on, but meh, I'm just kinda uninterested.

Tue, 07/21/2015 - 12:41

#55

Eurydice

Community Manager

A little more information, in

A little more information, in no particular order:

- @Melonfish - Rise of Knights brings SK's universe to new people who already like the mobile platform, instead of pushing potentially reluctant Spiral Knights players to migrate to mobile. If mobile is emphatically not your cup of tea, that's cool. Spiral Knights is right here for you!

- @Dreathuxy: RoK and SK are different games with different mechanics on different platforms, and therefore knight transfers will not be available. Sorry!

- Rise of Knights and Spiral Knights are set in the same universe. However, Rise of Knights is not a sequel to Spiral Knights.

- While I can't give any details yet, I'm happy to report that there is more stuff in the development pipeline for Spiral Knights. :D

All of that said, if there are a lot of you who are actively playing this early Rise of Knights version now, and want to discuss the game's mechanics and such, we should take that elsewhere so that we're not distracting from SK discussion. I can provide a space to do that (off SK's forums) if people want it. Interested?

Tue, 07/21/2015 - 12:52

#56

Mtax-Forum

@Eurydice

"I can provide a space to do that (off SK's forums) if people want it. Interested?"

Well, it's whole new other game, so subforum for this would be really useful. Also it would be good for make it bit more popular.

Tue, 07/21/2015 - 14:42

#57

Glacies

@Eurydice, completely want something like that. I want to make an impact on this game and help you guys in any possible way I can including a lot of these players.

Tue, 07/21/2015 - 15:11

#58

Fangel

Yess

I can provide a space to do that (off SK's forums) if people want it. Interested?
yesyesyesyesyes

I'll have to live subconsciously through others in terms of gameplay for a while (because no iOS devices, and I don't have much of a need or budget for one right now), but seeing how active the developers are when the Spiral Knights was still being created I'd love to be a part of that early discussion!

Tue, 07/21/2015 - 18:57

#59

Shadowxace

I'm On To you Sega

this looks.. familiar.... i cant put my finger on it tho.. man its on the tip of my tongue...agh.... what what what

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=sg.gumi.chainchronicleglobal

Tue, 07/21/2015 - 20:39

#60

Hexzyle

While I can't give any details yet, I'm happy to report that there is more stuff in the development pipeline for Spiral Knights

This is a sight for sore eyes, thank you for confirming that stuff is still happening with Spiral Knights (not really bothered with how long it takes, I was just worried that progress had ground to a halt)

Tue, 07/21/2015 - 21:19

#61

Fehzor

I've come to the conclusion that someone needs to lets play this and stick it up on Youtube so that I can partake in the early release etc. of Rise of Knights in spite of not owning an iPhone. My vote is Glacies but I could also see Hexzyle doing it- I'm going to need voice samples from each of you doing commentary so that I can decide.

The other thing is that someone on the GM side of things needs to determine whether there will be future updates for the main game of Spiral Knights, because that sort of matters quite a bit. Specifically- will the PC version be regularly updated (current rate or more updates), or is the PC version basically done but there for us if we prefer it like how Team Fortress Classic is there for people that prefer it to TF2?

-I'm wondering.

Tue, 07/21/2015 - 21:38

#62

Xdarkonx

@Eurydice

I have a few questions about the new game, if i may ask;

-I understood that is the same universe and is a different story line, but there will be ''hints'' about the main history of this game? Want i want to ask if that game have history or is just gameplay

-Now that i see you here, pleeeease, i beg you! make commentaries when developers come here in suggestions forum, we are so alone there!!

-dont OOO have a donation bag? it will be cool if we can donate for the development of new features, men, we really need more things in the game, every day i see less and less players, i played this since de LD was created, and now is so alone

Tue, 07/21/2015 - 22:50

#63

Hexzyle

@Fehzor

I could also see Hexzyle doing it- I'm going to need voice samples from each of you doing commentary so that I can decide.

OH my god you are not serious.
My commentary and explanations of things are so unnecessarily complex and indepth, I can turn anything seemingly simple concept into an extremely boring and complicated experience.

Action games are fine though (Strategy games... just no, the amount of information processing I do just causes me to speak jibberish when I try to play and talk at the same time) and I work well in tandem with another person though once I've had a drink.

Hmm, although I think I have a ...uh.... "special"... method of solo commentary that I'd like to try out...

Tue, 07/21/2015 - 21:49

#64

Hyper-Galactic

At least it wouldn't be pewdiepie style.

Tue, 07/21/2015 - 22:03

#65

Glacies

I would totally love to hear Hexzyle go on about the game. Hearing complex and indepth discussions are always some of my favorite to listen to.

If I could I would record gameplay but I have yet to figure out how to actually record off of iPhone. (There's also the constant issue of crashing...)

Tue, 07/21/2015 - 22:09

#66

Mergu-Md

Haters gonna hate ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Boring commentary over craziness with an accent?

@Darkon: Yes, OOO does have a donation bag. It's called buying energy and putting your money into promos. The money they receive off that goes into feeding their families and continuing to work on what they (supposedly) (hopefully) love to do.

I don't think it's been asked yet here, but what about the development of RoK? Will it be a game that doesn't need much attention or do you all have plans on extending its storyline like you have over here in SK?

Tue, 07/21/2015 - 22:57

#67

Fehzor

Ok so Hexzyle has an incredibly sexy voice and just thinks that he is boring which is pretty much perfect. He seems like he would be pretty good at talking about the game mechanics and eventually he could go off on some nice tangents.

Now all we need is a way for Hexzyle to record unless Glacies can do good commentary and wants to do it but Glacies did not say this. I'm thinking that Google will solve the issue of how to record the ordeal.

Wed, 07/22/2015 - 00:18

#68

Xaurian

Prequel/sequel in SK canon? Interesting.

BUT ON MOBILE?!

I'm glad we get to see more of the world of Spiral Knights, but knowing just how abusive (and sometimes broken, in Terraria's case) mobile games can be, I'm worried this'll snowball into a horrific case of abusive F2P games. We've already seen what could be done with Dungeon Keeper.

And to think this happened just as I tried out Warframe for the first time...

Wed, 07/22/2015 - 01:20

#69

Feline-Grenadier

I've got a question! Or two!?

Is there such a thing as a "getdown" file equivalent compatible with mobile Unity? If so, is it available for everyone somewhere (as it is for those who use "getdown" for Java?)

And another one you (OOO) don't have to answer : will PC have its long-desired glass of H2O too (because the fountains and wells don't cut it if we can't have cups...or can they?!)?

Wed, 07/22/2015 - 01:30

#70

Glow-Father

@Eurydice The real question is..

What engine is the team using to develop this game ? also does the team plan on changing engine in the long distant future?

(PS :I must say that I like the those art cut scenes in rise of knights , sk needs more of that cut scenes style ( ._. since i always try to skip all in-game cut scenes since are pretty dull to me)...

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

For the players :

A simple first 10 minutes gameplay recording with a little discussion on what the game feels and suggestions on what the game could do might help the gm getting an idea on how to improve the game it doesn't have to be a complex or science level elaborated commentary....

Wed, 07/22/2015 - 09:12

#71

Traevelliath

@Dreamless-Reaper
What engine is the team using to develop this game ?

I believe they're using the Unity engine.

Wed, 07/22/2015 - 11:00

#72

Fallconn

The game looks like a cheap

The game looks like a cheap knockoff, like really, all you did was take the game models and made them do things, I'm not really bashing the game, I'm just saying it looks like one of those PoZ recreations, which I think most of us can agree on, all in all, good job on making something that isn't a reski~ oh wait, reskinning games now, whats next? Clash of clans? CS:GO? (If CS:GO you have my permission) but I guess I'm just butthurt because custom lockdown lobbies haven't been implemented.

That being said, Although I don't really play this game, its a shame to see it go the way it's going, not that you've killed off the game, just that it's much much smaller than it used to be, who knows, maybe this new game will be a smash hit! maybe it'll get people interested in the original.
whatever the case, good luck to you on your future endeavors

: Your friend Fallconn has logged out

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 21:20

#73

Fire-Rougue

I'm somewhat scared

I have seen way to many great online games go down many of them I really really enjoyed, so I realy hope OOO knows what they are doing here because I dont wanna see SK go down in flames.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 22:06

#74

Hexzyle

There are people on this thread saying that SK will lose players to a mobile app... I want to know where they're getting those ideas from.

Would TF2 lose lots of players if Valve created a Tactical Strategy game set in the TF2 universe on mobile devices?
Does World of Warcraft lose lots of players every single time some generic company releases some generic RPG Facebook or iPhone game?
Did people stop playing chess when solitare, mahjong and minesweeper became available on computers?

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 22:20

#75

Mergu-Md

Phew

I sure hope that last one was sarcastic.

*boss walks by and tap keyboard like I'm being productive*

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 22:57

#76

Hexzyle

Can someone confirm that this

Can someone confirm that this game is actually coming to Android? Because I'm not convinced.
The only source that mentions that is the unofficial TouchGames YouTube channel, and they don't have a link for where they got that info from.

Fri, 07/24/2015 - 00:05

#77

Flowchart

https://help.sega.net/hc/en-us/articles/204919050-Basic-Troubleshooting-...

generic instructions, but Android is mentioned

Fri, 07/24/2015 - 01:33

#78

Hexzyle

Thanks. I tried googling for a download link since it's not in the Google Play store yet, but all the results are just for malware claiming to be money hacks.

Fri, 07/24/2015 - 04:06

#79

Sonosuke

I like Sonic Unleashed, screw you

The comments about SK losing its player base to a mobile reskin makes me think of the YouTube comments saying Sonic is gonna be pure mobile games now. Both have little basis to go off (Rise just recently was announced; only two exclusively mobile Sonic games were released in the past 5 years), and both have arguably been losing fans already before any mobile exclusive game was announced.

Stop saying we're gonna lose players to a mobile game, you don't have any evidence we will and we've been losing players long before that.

Fri, 07/24/2015 - 09:54

#80

Fire-Rougue

What i meant by my previous

What i meant by my previous comment is that SK is slowly decling and im not convinced that this us gonna help.

Fri, 07/24/2015 - 10:09

#81

Fangel

Err...

What i meant by my previous comment is that SK is slowly decling and im not convinced that this us gonna help.
People have been saying that since beta, and we're still here over 4 years later.
Spiral Knights isn't going to be dying when a game set in the same universe comes around. They are different games with different gameplay bits to them. Those of us playing a cutesy dungeon crawler aren't necessarily the same ones of us playing an SK PvZ-esk game.

New players join every day, but it is typically only those of us who are truly invested in this game or wish to complain about it that end up on the forums, and even less actually post here. Just because Haven 6 isn't populated doesn't mean Haven 1 isn't, and at the same time it dosen't mean the clockworks isn't populated outside of your party finder.

Fri, 07/24/2015 - 16:08

#82

Fire-Rougue

Well explain why we haven't

Well explain why we haven't gotten any updates and dont say its because thet were working on RoK, because they still could've added bug fixes and stuff like that.

Fri, 07/24/2015 - 17:40

#83

Bopp

exactly

Well explain why we haven't gotten any updates and dont say its because thet were working on RoK, because they still could've added bug fixes and stuff like that.

That's Fangel's point. For three or four years, people have been saying that the player base is in decline, the game isn't updated enough, there are too many unfixed bugs, energy should be cheaper, etc. It's always the same.

If I had listened to these doomsayers years ago, I would have missed out on years of fun. But I ignored them, figuring that I should just play the game until it ends (or I get bored). You should do the same. Let Three Rings worry about Spiral Knights. Our job is to enjoy Spiral Knights. Cheers.

Fri, 07/24/2015 - 21:12

#84

Fire-Rougue

Alright I guess your right im

Alright I guess your right im just paranoid about great games going away.

P.S Ok I know im really nooby for asking this but i just joined the forums so I'd like to how you add a profile pic.

Fri, 07/24/2015 - 21:12

#85

Hexzyle

You shouldn't play a game because you hope it will be better in the future. That's like reading Twilight because you are hoping New Moon will be better.

You should play a game because you enjoy playing it.

Fri, 07/24/2015 - 21:42

#86

Falminar

@Fire-Rougue

Right next to the search bar (above all posts) are the words "Forum preferences", which are a link to your forum preferences (obviously). Click them and press "edit". You'll then see a selection of 113 different avatars to choose from. Pick one! There are monsters, blocks, knights, and fan art. Click a picture to select it, then scroll to the bottom and press "save".

Fri, 07/24/2015 - 21:53

#87

Fire-Rougue

Thank you

Mon, 07/27/2015 - 10:43

#88

Cheshireccat

Android?

Has it appeared in the Google Play store yet?
--Chesh

Mon, 07/27/2015 - 16:37

#89

Crazee-Pi-Forum

ERROR, please try again after we attempt to do the banana dance

I'm probably not going to get it, unless I'm in it.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 14:27

#90

Blandaxt

A commentary..

A commentary from a youtube vid done by Meroka.

Check it out if you want.

I personally think it's not a bad idea. My comment on this is:

- I am interested in the story line aspect and what unique items the rise of knight game has to offer. But when it comes to the actual gameplay, completely disinterested!

Just checked over chain chronicle and its gameplay is a lot more fluid and active the the rise of knight gameplay i am seeing. So yeah, this gameplay completely disinterest me.

well that's that.

Sat, 08/15/2015 - 15:15

#91

Gradiosive-Cate

Not sure where to ask this but

How can I claim the prize from Arena?
(it's the prize from the previous week and upcoming week)

Wed, 08/26/2015 - 12:58

#92

Krakob

So how's the game now that it's been a while since release?

Wed, 08/26/2015 - 14:13

#93

Hexzyle

Still not out on Android >:(

Thu, 08/27/2015 - 22:24

#94

Autofire

You are experiencing a PICNIC ERROR!

I HAVE SNIPE!

I MEAN HYPE!

I got an Android phone! Yay! Memememe!

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!11!11

HYPE.

(Okay I must now dehype or else I will get super crushed in case they bomb it...uh...or...Sun Shards it? DEHYPE FAILED.)

This is perfect timing. The effort I must have in order to seal up the project which is the mustard of the sandwich of excellence! Experiments with stuffing highly explosive rockets into really adorable Snipes must now continue. But...I'll keep a close eye on this! I shall!

Thu, 08/27/2015 - 23:06

#95

Gradiosive-Cate

Update on the game

It gets less lag every updates. Nice
Freeze status is OP
Arena Reward is a little bit buggy.
There is some new NPCs w/ nice costume

The game will be taken down on Sep 30, 2015. RIP!!!
C'mon ThreeRG,

proceed to take screenshots...
so i can remember

Thu, 08/27/2015 - 23:20

#96

Krakob

That soon? What a shame.

Fri, 08/28/2015 - 03:41

#97

Glacies

So, wait. Where is this information that it will be taken down on the 30th of next month? However, it does seem like that the app has been taken off of the itunes store.

This either means that this is their final plans prior to officially publishing it or the game has been shoved to the dust bin. (There's also a possibility that they don't want people playing an unfinished game until it's in 1.0.)

Let's see how this plays out.

Fri, 08/28/2015 - 06:12

#98

Autofire

You are experiencing a PICNIC ERROR!

(There's also a possibility that they don't want people playing an unfinished game until it's in 1.0.)

I hope so. Yes...only thing to do is wait.

Fri, 08/28/2015 - 14:37

#99

Bernston

@Eurydice & Knights

Let me get this straight, & ask some questions in order... and I hope this may quell down numerous concerns about SK's state...

1) Rise of Knights is set in the same universe as Spiral Knights, yes, but, I would presume the timelines & storylines, other than the gameplay mechanics, are vastly different from each others'?

2) We now know it's in development, but this won't affect the game's active development team, right?

3) We know it's not a sequel, nor a prequel, to Spiral Knights, so, shouldn't we call that a sibling game(that's the term for a brother or sister game, if you want to know what that means, by the way to those of you out there)? It's only fair that we get to call that kind of game in that term, yes?

4) Will this not affect plans to later updates to Spiral Knights? I feel that there are boatloads of players that are worried about this game's state.

5) We know it's made by OOO. Still, is it made by a different team separate from SK's team, rather than using some of the same staff from the team that made Spiral Knights, or is that team using some staff of that team to help develop it?

Hope they get answered soon & ease concerns.

Fri, 08/28/2015 - 21:46

#100

Ndcoten

shutdown

here's yer proof on the shutdown.

i think i'll be trying to document what I can about this game for the sake of preservation. and, uh, shoutouts to the other people who actually got to play this.

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