I have been DYING for a piercing Antigua, and this is it. The Antigua could be the Flourish of this version, same attack but different look and charge.
I love the idea of pure piercing
The charge could be the spikes popping out of the ground causing like a cool line of effect thing
6 shots would be appreciated
And as the Antigua lines get a damage bonus for certain things, this one gets a Beast Medium when it's 5 star or so.
Do it OOO, and bring back the RSS (RIP)
Snarbolax Gun
And the Callahan was never heard from again. I hope you're happy.
This gun fills a niche the Callahan doesn't. More accurately, the Callahan doesn't actually fit well anywhere atm and is used as a substitute for something like this.
The thread has been posted for over one year. What does he have to say that hasn't been said so far?
Then OOO should buff the Callahan, not add a whole new gun.
Don't "buff" the Callahan
The Callahan isn't the BEST but it's not very useful
I've been in need of a piercing Antigua type gun that was 5 star for certain runs and Lockdown
I've used the Callahan and I have to say:
I hate the two shots, the stand still while shooting, how slow you reload, and how slow you walk with the charge then get sent back 1000000 tiles >:V
Even though it's STRONG AS HECK I would MUCH rather prefer the Snarb Gun idea.
I still can't really see how how are you going to hit fast, dodgin' enemies with a fast shooting gun like Antigua...
Logic needed...
Ma'm/Sir
You do not understand Guns.
They fire faster bullets, have a longer clip so you can get them faster.
@Progin: This gun fills a different role than the Callahan would if it was buffed, too. Callahan is a "sniper" type gun; mobs don't dodge it, it does a single shot with high damage, and you have to stop to fire it. This does none of those things.
As the subject says, just do it
Make a piercing Antigua line that originates from the Snarbolax
10 Fangs to buy
Recipes found in Basil
6 shots
Spike charge
Piercing damage
Fast Reload
Beast Medium Damage Bonus
Sentenza and AP both have mediums
Why shouldn't the Snarb Gun?
My idea for the designs would be something related to hunting, like a crossbow,musket, even a blowgun.But good idea in my opinion +1
i like the idea of a crossbow as the snarby gun but I have an idea, what if when you charge the 5* version snarby comes flying out doing massive damage and drags the enemy, and for the 4* versions and below, they shoot spikes that drag enemies and do decent amounts o damage, idk about the shooting pattern tho :P
This sounds like a pretty awesome concept for a gun. I'd bet it'll be pretty popular. I think I have a good idea on how the charged shot would be.
Two-star: Fires a mid-range spread shot of five needles then disappears.
Three-star: This one will be kinda the Autogun's charge but with a bunch of alpha wolver needles instead of bullets. (also mid-range.)
Four-Star: Sends a mid-range shot of snarble spikes out of the ground and ends with a larger one.
Five-Star: Sends a midlong-range shot of larger snarble spikes then ends with the Snarbolax coming out and biting anything (or anyone) at the end.
Btw they'd be some-what quick so they make up for the slight lack of range. And of corse they are gonna be pretty strong too.
BUMP IT
BUMP IT UNTIL THE WHOLE ENTIRE GAME SHUTS DOWN!
I am a gunner. Like, I use NOTHING but guns. I always solo, and I always get killed because of my stupid Callhan. This thread has been around practically since the snarby update. The Devs have porbably been watching it, as it is STILL at the TOP PAGE. After reading this entire thread, I have seen some valid arguments, but the pros DRASTICALLY outweigh the cons. I am supporting this 111%, and hope that (clears throat) /shout THE DEVS READ THIS!!!! (cough Nick cough cough). This really needs to be implemented. I am always stuck up the river without a paddle (or a boat for that matter :P) because I have no decent piercing damage without a) getting swarmed or mauled because I couldn't move (i.e. blitz/callahan) or b) I miss because I can't "lead the enemy" so that they dont outrun the bullet when my cursor stops moving. Again, this NEEDS to be implented. There are probably 100 people (75 at least) who DESPERATLY want this to happen. I know there are trials and hardships, but they can be overcome with old-fashioned thinking. Let's NOT make this a T1 avalible item. It's just too OP. T1 knights have the gear and suvival skills to survive a little lumber bonk on the head. I think these recipes should be availble by a few differant methods.
1. Killing snarby like 2 bajillion times. (lol idk)
2. Possibly new SL items? (5*only)
3. Random recipes found throughout the clockworks, but are rather rare.
The point is, we need this badly, BUT, we can't try to make it too easy to get. The Devs want legit reasoning and logic. We have some. by piecing together the majority of sketchy logic in this thread, we MIGHT get an Admin post (cough Nick cough cough) but we need to actually have some good arguments on WHY we bring this to the game. Saying "because its cool, and it'll kill stuff better, and because callhan sucks" aren't very deep reasons. They are reasons nonetheless, but they are not the core and deeper reasons the Devs are looking for. (forgive me if I have no idea what I'm talking about, kinda going out on a limb here) (lol). I will give this thread a rest for now, but am hoping to come back to it for more feedback. Whilst this thread is insanely long and has many opionions an dsuggestions, I belive that this can and will amount to something, if at least a sturdy "NO! stop necroing already!!" from the devs. (dont get any ideas devs :3). Hope this rekindles the bonfire,
~Z
We already have 2 guns that deal piercing damage why create a third one that can outperform the other two?
It's for the same reason that we don't want a sealed sword-line piecing damaging, some types of damage should come just in determined ways.
n° of guns with normal damage: 5, and 2 of them make you stop when firing.
n° of guns with elemental damage: 6, and none of them makes you stop when firing.
n° of guns with shadow damage: 3, and none of them makes you stop when firing.
n° of guns with piercing damage: 3, and they all make you stop when you fire.
so, more than a half of the guns that make you stop when firing are piercing, and there is no alternative if you shoose a piercing damage gun. so we need a piercing gun that doesn't make you stop moving.
also, outperforming blitz is practically impossible.
What Thunder said. Plus, it would be okay if it outperforms the Callahan... because the Callahan needs a buff anyway.
I'm still of my opinion, that kind of gun will make the others piercing gun almost useless. (except the blitz in some cases)
Here some examples of something being better than the other:
Ascended Calibur > Winmilion
Combuster >Fang of Vog
Nightblade >Cautery sword
Leviathan > Cold Iron Vanquisher
Big Angry Bomb > Irontech Destroyer
Barbarous Thorn Shield > Aegis
This New Gun > Challan.
.....just sayn'.
you know, those on the right side all need a buff of some sort (or the left need a nerf) and pretty much everyone knows it. also, with the damage and range that the blitz charge has, this gun would be better only with wolvers, because of their teleporting. anything else stays in the range and dies.
besides, I have the strong feeling that something is wrong with piercing guns. fiends and beasts are weak to piercing, and they dodge a lot, except for trojans which are practically the only targets for piercing guns. hitting a wolver with a blitz is difficult only because you must stay in a fixed position.
I hate using slow or fast weapons, and I HATE blitzing on Vana, and I LOVE the antigua line. Would this be a Snarb Token Reward, i was thinking not. I really think OOO would make this an event in which snarby could RARELY drop the 2 star version, and rabid snarb would drop a poison one, but more frequently. Can you please give us more info, possibly the description, the dmg it would deal (as in the dmg numbers to each enemy) how we would GET it! Also OOO PLEASE add this to the game!!!!!
I believe that there was no gun back then before missions because it would encourage you to use bombs. You started off with the proto sword and gun, no bomb. Many of us would try and complete Snarby back in the day using the arcade. I know that I tried to go for all of the boss rewards. I was kinda annoyed that there was no gun, but then again, at the time I have never tried bombs and I thought that the spine cone was pretty good. Im not much of a fan of weapon slot upgrades (because when I think I switch to my 1st weapon, I switch to my 3rd etc) so now I always carry a sword and either a gun or bomb. I currently use bombs more than guns now.
But now that we got missions and people are given Bombs/recipes etc, I think that it's a good idea.
+1
I have loved snarby i have full snarby set and i have even used sentenza and argent alot i love the antigua series i think it would be great if we had a gun like this! +1
you should know that based on his disings the snarby gun should brand off from the antigua which should do normal because of the serious lack of pricing guns
Rwarcake and dark its not your thread... And Snarby is not in any way related to sleep. That'd be terrible.
Gunner update? Hopes arising
Well the Obsidian edge charge has something similar to what has been suggested here for this snarby gun charge. Just replace the purple colour with black and red tipped spikes and boom bob's your uncle.
The snarb gun is good but maybe make it a bit slower that the antiguas make the antigua normal damage
Good work for a picture :)
But if something you want on SK, must wait until next year xD
It must have already updated with new guns but it is very long ...
Who knows the date or pictures?
Bombs have less than swords in support. Need I point out that Vanaduke does not give a bomb? Rormy does not give a sword either. I think it's clear to me that OOO have balanced it well by making each boss have two weapon types, an armour set and shield(s). That way a knight can fully equip with just 1 boss' gear. If you don't like that boss' gear you always have the option of liking another boss' gear.
This idea should be brought back to life.
I'm only concerned abotu the gunner update. Also, make it resemble a modern day weapon with snarby trimmings.
Nice idea like it. Please loook my idea too for a better gameing http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/110755
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Yes, but make them snarby shurikens.