Grats on your first shadow lair. From what I hear other players say, yea, you need to kill a certain amount of enemies to progress.

Personally, I don't find the crest useful. I could've upgraded it awhile ago, but my grey owlite serves me well enough in T3 csk. Dark cities still give me problem, but that's more of a gameplay issue for me.

I havn't used dts on p3 vana. I could just spam first swings and hit, but skolver is rather thin against fire and elemental damage. So if I happen to be the one not shiving, I'll charge my btb and let loose with the blitz.

Purely for vana fighting, I say upgrade the kilowatt. However, that is if you have no shiv in the group. Actually, kilowatt is the first elemental pulsar, right? If so, upgrade that. It does allow you to take down puppies with more efficiency than the basic pulsar.

Is the blackhawk really being changed to that? It seems like the gremlin bonus is unnecesary, since it would be pure shadow already.

For fsc itself, pre-vana, a crest should serve fine. But, until you upgrade to CoA, trojans will be a problem. My GoS holds out fine under skelly swipes, and it can tank a trojan smash. It breaks if the trojan powers up, but I take close to no damage.

The bullets, and supposedly the fireballs around vana, along with the fire tiles, all deal elemental damage. The CoA won't hold up well against those. Think of the reason why almost no one goes into fsc with shadow armour. I know a friend, ancientdragon, that does fsc with CoA. He told me his reasoning was that being fire breath locked and swarmed by zombies swiping makes an owlite takes too much damage.

At which point I proceed to wonder to myself, if you are in full sally... just run through the fire and get to a safer spot.

I btb p1 and all mask, then gigawatt the other phases. Btb/dts charge is prolly faster than giga spam, but also more risky, and extremely hard to do solo in p5. The entire vana fight takes me around 20 minutes, soloing with a giga. With a friend, non shiverblitz, its slightly shorter, with a lot less damage taken.

Those vs family bonuses seem redundant, but we'll see how that plans out. I wouldn't want rss to go piercing, bombers need elemental.

The party restriction is a rather fuzzy piece of game mechanic. Afaik, joining and immediately going solo will cause your party to restrict, but not the original party. The soloist has to continue down the elevator to open up his party. If said soloist completed the floor with the party, then goes solo, party should be open.

There are exceptions and muddled guesses about how restricting a party works. You could make a post on general asking people their experience with the restriction of parties, and make something of the info.

Trojans are all normal, hence the popularity of vps for vana fights, as slag guards are basically charging trojans.

Yea, there is data on how resist lowers the time, and possibly damage taken from the status.

Sally is salamander, from the chromalisk line. Most notable for that set is the fire resist at 4*, and the jelly damage from earlier. It seems to be almost geared for the cheapest knights, letting them farm rjp, then fsc, with one weapon, most likely the cold iron line.

Crown problems? I'm f2p, and I stopped having cr problems once I was able to do fsc. Check your tokens, do you have several hundred primal sparks? Each hundred of those nets you 10k cr, by buying the 5* trinks and vendoring them. Or try buying some ghost bells and selling on AH.

I do use btb on p1. And not charge, but constant 1-2 hit. If I time my button mashing correctly, I can dance around him and not be hit. I prefer gigawatt during fireball phases, as it lets me deal constant damage and avoid him swinging the mace more often. Thus, I need to water less.

I havn't tried in awhile, but doesn't the fireballs block projectiles, of all kinds but blitz needles? I'll give it a try when I get home tonight.

Some guy posted videos, of ugww and uimf, on general the other day. I saw part of pre-snarby ugww. Solo vids too, check them out.

is that your IGN? I have something to help you out, need to make sure i mail to the right person.

Btb charge is nice, and that's what I do. I do remember seeing a video of rss solo vanaduke.

Edit: Forgot to put the DA charge thingy thing up. No, the hologram swords gets stopped by the circling fireballs.

So I asked my guild about what does or doesn't pass through vana fireballs. Apparently blitz doesn't, it just shoots so many that it appears it does.

Btb thorns don't count as projectiles. Try it out on a friendly mecha. The thorns don't make it shield, but from most gunshots, and da/gf charge, does make it shield. I say most because I did not see all kinds of guns shot at mecha knights.

I have no blitz or any of the variations, thus I can't test it myself. Neither do I have the ap, although one could assume that the ap hits vana the same way

It could be that mecha knights respond to something that isn't projectiles, but instead somthing else. Testing with mecha knights is thus, inaccurate. Not to mention that DA charge won't count the mech shield as a wall, and instead, pass through it. Same thing happens with slag guards, but not trojans.

Congratulations on getting snarby.

/jealous
/end jealousy

I don't see the description you speak of on the spine cone line. I'm looking at the spine cone and spike shower, neither say anything about lower charge times. The 2 main drawbacks is the somewhat long fuse, and single target dps. The fuse itself is good for turning trojans, and the single target means its power is stronger in groups. Dbb, spine cones last upgrade, is the main piercing bomb for bombers.

I went for shield first. Just upgraded it to CoA today. Heated to 7 in one fsc run, then put it away to wear my owlite again. If I want something with no elemental resist, I might as well go bts. I then took fov, to use it as my third weapon in RJP. And if i feel suicidal, fov charge every single lumber. Then spam fov charge on JK. Personally, go fov first. With enough damage bonus, you can use the charge to one shot slags. I've seen a solo video do that, but haven't managed to do it duo myself. Mostly because I have utterly no fire resist on my armour.

Edit: CoA, I hear, is one of the best shadow shields. Seeing as how csk gives me no trouble, and dark city is just more about dodging, I rarely used the crest for them. Perhaps on a shadow arena, but I havn't encountered one, except for the d28 flame lash arena a guildy was doing.

Yea, the moment I figured out da charge passes through slags, doube slagging has been a walk in the park. Charge, hit one for high 800, almost 900, watch swords pass through for 240ish damage each, usually hitting twice.

Which brings me off topic. Should you ever find the need to obtain more bark mods by fighting twins, fight them solo. As you work the switch with your da, charge it. One charge literally brings a twin to the next stage.

I prefer the owlite over crest in fsc. I like the elemental on it, and my owlite breaks maybe once a week from pure zombie slashes.

Go and try tanking a few shadowfire hits after being knocked into it with a coa. Or being cornered by vana. Owlite>crest in those situations.

Crest would definately be nice for T3 howls, more so on the homing heads than the actual bullets.

Owlite has equivalent if not higher fire resist. Just pointing that out.

Then fov will still only do the 3 hits. On a fov, its easier to land all 3 hits. On a da, it is almost impossible to. Except on the rt twins, where the hologram swords all hit 3 times. Or it could just be 2 hologram swords, but massive damage nonetheless.

Fov has an aoe swing, up to 3 hits. Da has high initial swing, 3 hologram swords, each sword having the potential to do 3 separate hits to monsters.

On lumbers in rjp, I do just barely over 300 per hit on fov charges. I think the da hit is 300ish as the initial swing, 150ish per flying sword hit. Da has a higher potential damage output, and the rt has a big enough hitbox to be able to utilize the maximum effectiveness of da charges.

I actually don't know. The bars say they are similar, which they may or may not be.

Crest does help in fiend strats, but personally I think only T3 fiends are worth gearing a whole new shield for.

I've got sword bonus max, and I've been one shotting lumbers with a da charge up to solo. Even when I only had vh damage.

It isn't invulnerable. Its immune, or very close to immune.

I'd like to take this moment, and express my rage at the frostifurs who froze me while I was in full skolver.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

That should answer your question. The haze bombs have a GOOD chance of causing status. Usually, full skolver protects from good freeze, and full vog protects from good fire.

I have no idea how resist is calculated against infliction rates. Perhaps a certain amount of resist makes one immune to a certain level of status, whether good, low, or high. Or it could merely reduce the % of infliction.

I assume so on greavers.

No it doesn't, the shield resist merely protects the shield from taking some damage from the status.

Trinkets, what armour set do you have? If you are going skolver, get asi, and vice versa. Or if mixed vog/skolver, get both quick slash and slash. I'm not sure how useful sword ctr is. For gunning trinks, most people go with trueshot, the gun damage bonus.

Make both 4* trinks of your choice, then upgrade. It is very expensive to upgrade trinks, especially when the increase in value is only a low.

1. I guess? I thought accessories were bought as tickets, then used in bazaar on the item. I have none of those, so I can't tell you.

2. Rare item? Some sort of drop from before I played, and I'm assuming they don't drop anymore.

hi guys after a completed tier 1 a quest at progress says that i must get 2 stared equiment and to go to the hall of herous and where it is
and i started a account on the game from kongregate is housting this site when i tried to enten on this site doesn t work so i strated an acunt here so i can put some questions or maybe start again because i have some bugs on the site what to do star again ? and where is the hall of herous

You need to take into account of the time it takes to do either of the runs. RoF is 15 minutes, if you kill everything and ignore grass. Fsc takes anywhere from 30 minutes to more.

A full T3 run gives 9-10k, courtesy of the new loot page after going up the ele. If you defeat vana, that's another 3k to vendor, 1k per token. Fsc itself is around 7k, maybe a bit more.

On a cr per ce, fsc is worth it. But this is assuming a relatively fast clear, with vana at the end. And if you don't have time, you miss out on the higher paying lower levels.