Umm hyper realistic is a real term XD Its an art style too lol. I didn't make it up. I do a lot of stuff from images and also not images lol. And there's lots of reference for fantasy like wings. Just have to be creative with how you use it. And atually I didnt use an image for my leaf, i looked at a few references but it was of creation.
I'm actually doing art for a dual major with physics in school right now, so I'm using a lot of what I learn in my 3d models.
Sounds fun.
Art + Phsyics = Win.
I'm better at 3-D art than art on paper...because I can change the lines I draw. xD
I just gotta learn the 3-D program better...I learn new stuff about it every time I create a new item. Currently just started working on the upgraded version ("higher tier", so to speak) of the Outlaw Gun I posted pics of a few posts back.
Hyper realistic sounds like the uber form of a hyperbole. It's like...UBERNESS.
~Sev
Yeah, well hyper realism is usually in painting, but there are some 3d artists. Heres some examples that i just googled http://www.cgdigest.com/11-realistic-renderings/
Anyway, i'll fix the models maybe tonight or tomorrow. I'm working on a few other projects on here too =O
Heres one with simple wing designs on the side, kinda like tsu, but just a design I liked =O I will be finishing your version later sev.
http://beastly-nikk.deviantart.com/art/Judegement-varient-with-wings-292...
http://beastly-nikk.deviantart.com/art/Judgement-diffrent-view-292745848
So i was modeling the trigger under the revolver chamber, and theres a problem. I would have to make an entirely new model because of the way the original one i made was modeled. The other problem was the trigger would be on the revolver its self, which doesnt really work for a gun so I have to redesign the handle anyway. So I can't just modify the old one, I will have to make a new model. I might be able to safe some parts like the cross, and maybe the revolver chamber.
...That can not be a painting.... It's so realistic... O_o
Anyway.. my picture is coming... i know im late >.<
I've been getting off track and drawing other things
I know how that works...
I'd love it if you could remodel it, but if you don't want to spend the time on it you certainly don't have to. Nice wings too, by the way. :)
@Serell:
Ikr? Painting that..is...haxx. No wonder they call it "Hyper realistic" or the uber form of UBERNESS.
No worries. I'll look forward to it.
~Sev
music and art is my thing...
reading your suggestion, my mind keep thinking of a grenade launcher design..O.O
i know right? ur guns are in a way, semi automatic (antigua) and bulky (magnus,etc)
u said u wanted a revolver...so why not make a gun similar to a grenade launcher or in another way, a two handed steriod-filled revolver? xD
i can draw it for you.....if u want
lemme know :)
YES!!!! SERELL WANTS A GRENADE LAUNCHER!!!
Love grenade launchers... perfect sidearm for my be-loved shotgun :3
Supernova is pretty grenade-launchery.
Polaris shock can cancel knockback making it not as grenade-launchery, and sometimes it cancels it at crucial moments as well making Polaris fairly pathetic if you utilize its knockback for survivability a lot (in comparison to the amazing Super).
@Serell ur grenade launcher as requested :)
i used Agent Peacemaker as my model and added a Revolvr to it :)
original (sorry but i went fast so its messed upped D:)
http://s1079.photobucket.com/albums/w504/nathanrodz1/?action=view¤...
(inverted to show contrast)
Just as a note, Antigua-line guns are revolvers - hence the name Silversix. In fact, I'm using a modified version of Antigua's cylinder in the art that I was working on for this thread...which may or may not get finished.
That being said, your design is pretty cool. The fact that you can do that in 5 minutes is amazing. It reminds me of the Stickybomb Launcher from TF2, which is a pretty standard grenade launcher design I suppose. Personally, I never really thought of Severage's gun as a grenade launcher though...
@Canine : Yes! That is awesome! I would so use a grenade launcher in SK if it looked like that!
@sev those are hyper realistic 3d models actually. The hyper realistic paintings are crazier! http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blogs/21-mindblowing-hyperreal
...
Wow. That's incredible.
@Canine-Vladmir:
Pretty much all I do is music and art too. :D
While I don't particularly mind having something of that style (And nice sketch btw), it deviates a little far from what the main idea is. Rocket Launchers would likely not be piercing, and certainly wouldn't be mobile.
~Sev
Sev I can do the other model if you want =O just need to talk about it
Oh and I'd you want I can probably do the textures and colors in illustrator and photo shop =O
You don't use your 3-D Modelling program to do the textures? Or are you just making the files initially in Illustrator/Photoshop?
If you wanna do the other model, feel free to ask any details you need.
~Sev
@sev I usually use a 3d modeling program to do all my textures, backed up with photoshop texturing. BUT I'm testing s program on the mac and that happens to be one of the parts of the program that is still buggy. So i need to wait till they update so I can get a plugin program to do the textures, like Vray. But I can render it out on my program, and then texture it in photo shop or illustrator.
Ohh I see. Makes sense.
I think you mentioned you used a 3-D program called Rhino or something? How "professional" of a program is it (3DS/Maya professional level, or more like the one I use, some off-shoot)?
~Sev
Rhino is the professional equivalent of 3DS. 3ds is made by auto desk. While rhino is a diffrent company focusing in on it's own software. It's mostly a modeler, and lacks material and texture editing ALTHOUGH it has addonds for VRAY a high grade renderer software for textures and mats and also the makers of rhino designed a software that fits right into rhino that is I think better called flamingo. Out of rhino maya and 3DS I would chose rhino. Though free wise, if you are running windows you can't get the student edition of 3DS for free I think. Maya is a good choice If you can get rhino or 3ds but I was able to get rhino for my Mac for free since its still in testing for Mac. It was originally drained for windows. I wish I had it in my windows cause it's absolutely amazing.
@Serell LOL
@Schattentag i thought of a grenade luancher in my mind, because of the cylinder. i wasnt implying it was to act like one :D so a powerful revolver that looks like a launcher
@Severage just like i said to Schattentag, i just wanted its design. in all and all, its just a sketch. a beginning idea. and yea it could look more mobile. any other ideas you want to corporate?
(few of my ideas; shorter looking/long range, incorporate the barrel from blitz but with only 4 barrels, more SK-ty looking)
@ Canine-Vladmir I could do a 3D model of it if you'd like.
will u marry me?! LOL
i would really like a 3d model:D
Dragoon is from Kirby Air ride, do we get to ride on the gun and fight king dedede? :p
lol.
A Dragoon is also (If you look it up online) a gunman, occasionally mounted. Dragoons were a class of military gunners.
Not to mention its normal definition which is to coerce someone (If I recall correctly).
@Nixk:
Rhino's that good huh? I use some cheap 3-D software called Hexagon. It's like $400, but the reason I got it was because it was free at the time. I really like 3-D art, and, despite myself, wouldn't mind looking to do it as a profession later on.
@Canine-Vladmir:
The cylinder? Which cylinder made it look like a launcher? o_o
~Sev
Thread cannot die! (uber bump)
*everyone staring at me*-What?-Oh, sorry for not posting before, ive seen all this thread and its a very good idea so far,i really like it....No wait, i dont like it....I LOVE IT
-Before someone asks: i dont know how to draw, lol.
P.S.:Waiting for new artwork!!! (: i really love how you guys draw and model in 3D, i really loved that gun nixk!
I may have to draw something else... or finish that ANNOYING color version... -.-
Why, hello Neodasus. Getting a +1 from you is about as common as getting a +1 from Asukalan.
@Tsubasa-No-Me:
Does your name happen to mean, eyes of the wings (Off-topic)?
~Sev
It means... Without my wings... Cause... yeah... :C
Also, i dont wanna let this die... sooo.... Yeah.
Not only am I famous, but I inspire Hipster...ness... Yeah.
~Tsu
@Canine-Vladmir
Lol sorry i'm spoken for XD Alirght give me some time and I will try ;D Sorry, been busy lately :c
why this thread is dying? i cant see this thread on the third page
I NEED TO SEE IT IN THE FIRST PAGE! NOOOOOOOOOOWWWW!!!
EDIT: wow it really climbed to first of 1st page....NICE!
possibly because when you post on something once, it gets bumped to the very top of the sub-forum
just a thought
Yes lets make a "new gun", lets make it almost exactly like the Antigua line and call it a "new gun".
No.
I say if you want a new gun, at least make it very different. We don't need revolver gun designs, even if they are a bit different in a few ways.
So next time if you want to post a suggestion thread for a new gun idea, please, make it really different rather than a slightly changed version of a gun we already have.
Did you even read the OP?
I'd say this gun is pretty drastically different from an Antigua. Like Severage said, this thing is like the child of the Magnus and Antigua lines, with a new shockwave mechanic and a completely different charge attack to boot.
By an extension of your argument, I could say that it was stupid of the Devs to make two piercing 3* guns, Magnus and Antigua. They're essentially the same thing, it's just that the Magnus has a smaller clip, more power, and less DPS because of the self-knockback. Even the charge attack is pretty similar! Heck, the only difference is that Antigua fires off a few bullets first and has a smaller final bullet than the one Magnus fires.
Perhaps you have an idea of what a "really different" gun would be? If so, do tell. Keep this in mind, though - we already have stuff that ricochets, stuff that explodes on contact, and stuff that sticks to enemies. We have stuff that chips away at enemy HP and stuff that basically punches them in the face from afar. We don't, however, have anything that pierces through enemies, and that's one thing this new gun does, even if it's somewhat limited.
Yes how the gun would work is different, and that's good. I probably did not fully explain my point i guess...
Anyway, what I mean is that if we suggest new guns they should be really different. Both aesthetically and functionality.
I'm not hating on the function of the gun, as it would be a good idea. It's just how the gun looks that bugs me.
To me its pretty much just a slightly changed Antigua, or an Antigua mixed with the Magnus a bit, which it is.
We don't need another revolver type gun, and that's the point that i was meaning to make.
If i had the time i would create some design sketches of how this gun would look.
To me this gun would look a bit like a Desert Eagle except with the magazine sticking out the side, and some other changes to make it look different to any other gun in Spiral Knights.
Ah, my bad. I was (clearly) under the impression that you were against the ideas behind the gun's functionality, not its design.
Personally, I'd like to see something as ornate as an actual flintlock (with a Spiral Knights twist, naturally). I don't have any issues with a revolver design, but I want step away from modern/futuristic gun aesthetics.
Sev (if you're still waiting) rest assured I'll get around to it at some point...
@Skourge-Nz: Well, I'm glad you like at least something of the thread.
The original idea for the art was inspired by, as you may have guessed, a revolver type gun. It just happens to be my niche so it was my initial idea. It is up to the Devs what the design for the gun is, this was just an idea. I can, however, agree that we do have many revolver-type guns in the game. If you could explain your art design in some detail, I can work on it; that way you don't have to take the time to draw it yourself (We wouldn't want it to be a carbon copy of a Desert Eagle, would we?).
Thanks for bein' honest.
@Schattentag:
If the thread's still here, I haven't stopped waiting. :p
~Sev
kk wht Skourge-Nz jus said sorta just shot meself in the foot >.< designs totally based on Magnus series and Antigua Line O_O
http://i39.tinypic.com/344w1nr.png
p.s. trigger doesnt need to be drawn due that our avatars hands will be holding them. the butt of the gun are the same as the magnus and antigua.
p.s.s. Devs can totally take me idea. all me want is to know that they used me designs :)
p.s.s.s. HOW do ppl get profile images in Forums?! do i need to log in with my Steam account?
The second and fifth designs remind me more of a shotgun, truth be told.
AND just go to Forum Preferences > Edit > Go nuts
...lol. You just click the Forum Preferences button.
And when putting multiple "PS"', you put "P.P.S", and "P.P.P.S", not "P.S.S".
More on-topic:
#4 looks too much like a proto gun imo. #5 does look like a shotgun. #1 looks like a revolver, and #2...looks like...a smaller shotgun. Like a really small shotgun. And then #3 looks like a Valiance.
~Sev
I'm glad you haven't taken my posts in a rude/insulting way, as they were not meant to be insulting.
But yes, the only thing that bugs me is the slightly revolver-like design.
Going with Schattentag's idea of an ornate flintlock design, could you imagine if this gun was some sort of blunderbuss?
Even though a blunderbuss is more of a 1 shot then reload weapon, it doesn't matter, this is Spiral Knights where we can design anything to do anything.
P.S. I've done 5 years of Graphics and 2 years of Design, so I could probably join in with the sketching and designing.
P.P.S. If you wanna check out some art/design I've done I will leave this link here
http://scourg3-nz.deviantart.com/gallery/
I see military art is your forte`. The Pulse Pistol looks almost exactly like a Plasma Rifle from Halo. :P
Your Desert Eagle art; is that what you wanted this to look more like? If so, I believe we'd need to make it larger. Something that packs as strong a punch as this gun (So that shockwaves from the impact actually damage enemies) would likely be a bit larger than that. Though, those are pretty epic guns in real life. Especially for handguns.
I am a lot more well-versed in my 3-D program now than when I made that concept. I haven't had time to revisit it, and I've hardly had time to use the program at all, which I am using to make 3-D art for a video game. I got this cheap program just weeks ago, if you haven't read the other comments, so I'm very new to all this. I basically learn something new every time I use the program for upwards of over an hour. lol.
As for as a blunderbuss: if an energy-based weapon (Alchemer) has to reload, then I assume we can decrease the number of times a blunderbuss has to. ;) It would make sense if they "cooled down", but they reload..
So, anything can happen. Never match a fantasy game with logic, I always say.
This, among many others, is a fair representation of an ante-modern era blunderbuss. There are many very nice images if you just google "blunderbuss".
~Sev
Um... Sev... sorry for being so late.
Kinda woke up some day last week, and my parents told me i was going on vacation for my whole spring break ._.
so yeah.... but i promise i will give your pcicture tomorrow!
People get different times for spring break. I had gotten mine two weeks before everyone I knew had gotten theirs.
http://i44.tinypic.com/2itlcu1.png
http://i39.tinypic.com/wje7np.png
Your gun has too much polys for an instance-heavy game.
"Hyper realistic"
Congratulations, you have made a new term! =D
You have more solid examples of leaves though...almost all the art I do is based off an image. If it's not, it likely doesn't look good at all. With leaves, you can get super-close-up images with amazing detail.
With fantasy items like wings...there are all sorts of different kinds...and none of them realistic. ><
Unless you mean wings on a bird...which wasn't exactly the idea.
~Sev