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Wed, 04/25/2012 - 22:34
#101
Frostyhawk's picture
Frostyhawk
as for the dude being rich,

as for the dude being rich, spend your money on jetpacks man, i mean what the hell!

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 19:57
#102
Rangerwillx's picture
Rangerwillx
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Personally, I'm getting tired of this game.
Cocosnake can do what he likes with his money, though I do think 9K is a bit much for a game like SK. It's his cash, though.
I'm just really disappointed with OOO with the lack of content. Go on, say it, "They're team is really small".
That isn't exactly a reason. They could have put some content in, and made some money.
I'm not going to quit, but I'm not going to be spending any more money and a ton more time on this game.
I mean, seriously, OOO is just putting cosmetic update after cosmetic update over and over.
AKA, money-grab, money-grab, over and over.
I do think this had a great opportunity to be a really good game, as Exiled said, but it doesn't look like it's taking that way.
I'm not mad about the UV locking, but..the last content was the DLC. And that was one set of levels, which costed money to buy.
:/
I'm not quitting, but OOO is losing 22$ I was planning to spend on the game, and a good amount of my time.
Hell, I didn't even log in to see the cool accessories today. Oh wait, they're probably 50K.
I'm not really super hyped up about this game anymore.
Hey, it was a good thing to quit for a few weeks, even though I came crawling back.
Tsk tsk, I'll never get that 20$ I spent a few weeks back though.
Meh.

Next things on Featured Auctions will probably be Groundbreaker.

Glad I didn't end up throwing 28$ (counting the activation fee with the prepaid credit cards) away, whew, that was close.

TL;DR: Content is the problem with this game. That's why my playing time is going downhill.
Yeah, sorry, but having fun in a game which has new content every two months is hard.

Edit: Just checked, monster pockets are roughly 175K. Cool.

Wed, 04/25/2012 - 23:11
#103
Softhead's picture
Softhead
BYE!

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Wed, 04/25/2012 - 23:24
#104
Sunyking's picture
Sunyking
The game makes my previous

The game makes my previous money spent for no reason, anyway it just a game, i cannot let it work in my way, and I will never spend a penny on this game in the future.

It was once a good game, just don't know why developer messed everything up by doing these stupid pitch.

Recently the market is not in a good condition and non of my stuff got sold. (which would never happened b4) I guess many P2P already leave, and i wish OOO good luck.

Wed, 04/25/2012 - 23:33
#105
Hpland's picture
Hpland
HEY ALL

Dear cocosnake

I have never ever met you, seen you play or even heard of you until this post but i have to say:
If this is such a concern put it so the Devs will have to see it. I personally think they are charging to much for a ce pack and I know they are a buisness but seriously $20 for 7500ce? That can barely make a full set up to 4*. Also I hope you like that R8.

Cheers Hpland

Wed, 04/25/2012 - 23:37
#106
Poetry's picture
Poetry
"It just sucks. It's bogus.

"It just sucks. It's bogus. Bait&switch." -- Pawn

I can sympathize with how you feel. A few weeks ago, i caught a lot of flack for saying:

"I must say, i feel like the victim of a bait-and-switch...After spending months looking for a Max Poison UV Gunslinger and Hat , i was finally able to craft a Shadowsun Set that wasn't completely hampered by it's deficiencies...It took me a while, but i finally had a set with pierce defense that i was very fond of. Now that's all out the window...And i'm left without a pierce armor and forced to buy a different set."

I've since come to terms with the fact that Spiral Knights isn't going to be the game i hoped it would be.

When i first started playing Spiral Knights, i decided that it felt very much like an upgraded version of Yahoo Chat circa 1996. And it still does. But instead of playing poker or chess in between chatting, we're playing a hack-and-slash action-rpg. And that isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Most of the enjoyment i derive from this game is while i'm online chatting with friends or guildmates and since this game doesn't require my complete attention, I can be online shopping or watching a basketball game or on the phone with a friend. Hell, sometimes i'm even on when i have company here. It's a very relaxed gaming experience.

I don't think it was ever meant to be a very serious game. I'm glad i never spent more than 12 dollars on this game. But at the same time, i'm glad i still log on. Maybe it isn't an open world Legend of Zelda, but it's a hell of a lot nicer than Yahoo Chat circa 1996 and the people are just as nice if not nicer.

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 00:08
#107
Modinstaller
I'm just feeling like the

I'm just feeling like the creator of this thread does not post only to express himself on the update, but mainly to show to others his wealth, his power, that he's the first in the game, that he has a big *****. I'm feeling this is more about a spoiled man that don't know how to find real happiness in life and that has to whine in public to feel good. I think 90% of the people who read this thread don't care about your life, and that even if it is your right to express yourself about an update, if this was to say you're leaving, you should have told it to your friends instead of posting it in a public forum.

Now don't be so frustrated that everyone yells at you that you're showing off your ***** in front of everyone, that's exactly what you do : you tell everyone that you were the best, you spent all your money on this game, you were number one supporter and everything. Just do get a brain and do expect people to tell you they don't care and that they don't like whining rich spoiled kids ...

Next time you want to do the same thing, do it right : tell you're leaving the game to your friends and close people, and tell what you feel about the update and the game in general in the forum WITHOUT doing the rich guy who is the best in the world ...

If you feel like the way you are happy is by being the best in the world and showing it to people, just go in the streets and throw bills, or idk ... just don't claim that you're the best in the middle of a nerd population of thousands of people that try to be the best too ...

Damn didn't you think before writing this thread ?

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 00:12
#108
Xairathan's picture
Xairathan
@The Post Above

Well first, /salute Cocosnake

I've seen you around in Haven; never really talked to you but I do know the Laverna reference, and comparing you to Laverna, I do agree that it would be sad to see you go. Good luck wherever your travels may take you (and enjoy D3).

@Person above me, you might wanna censor your ah, phallic language before Eury does.

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 00:33
#109
Ichabob
It's nice to know you can

It's nice to know you can leave the game and everything is exactly the same as when you left.

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 01:21
#110
Derpules's picture
Derpules
@Cocosnake

One thing I don't get: aren't all your weapons *single* VH ASI/CTR? You haven't, I think, been spamming triple rolls like Rommil and Pawn. Am I mistaken in my impression?

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 01:55
#111
Paweu's picture
Paweu
u ooo i pai 2 win u mak me

u ooo i pai 2 win u mak me pai mor?? how can u

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 03:08
#112
Shue-Donnym's picture
Shue-Donnym
Now I see the world through Diamond Eyes!

@Paweu
+1000

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 04:17
#113
Zinqf's picture
Zinqf
@Cocosnake

I know I played SK looking for a link between when I started (Aug 5th 2011) till D3 would be out (May 15th 2012). I know I won't regret one ounce of time that I did spend playing this game because it is a great game (and for the most part still will be if it gets more content). I'm sure you think the same thing Cocosnake. You don't really dislike the patch as much as you were letting others on, you probably are looking for an excuse to quit to play Diablo 3 =)

With that out of the way, I wonder how much you are going to drop on D3's RMAH?

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 04:20
#114
Tersakaff's picture
Tersakaff
Can I have your stuff? :)

Can I have your stuff? :)

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 05:13
#115
Sirenblue's picture
Sirenblue
9000+++ USD???

Yeah, you can say gaming is like hobbies or something, but I'm sorry, 9000+ over a game?

The only thing I'll be missing from you would be the occasional rage energy sale.

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 10:33
#116
Thimol's picture
Thimol
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what the hell is this guy talking about?

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 10:42
#117
Alynn's picture
Alynn
hmm.......

you say you quit, but i JUST saw you in H1.......:s

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 10:47
#118
Thimol's picture
Thimol
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I'm guessing this is about the UV thing, in which case I have to say:

You spent $9K rolling for perfect UVs on everything and you're getting angry at OOO? I'm sorry, but wasn't the decision to spend that money to roll for those UVs your decision? YOU took the risks, knowing the odds and whatever else involved, to roll for perfect UVs, and what, because OOO makes it easier, you expect to be compensated?

I seriously cannot fathom this, possibly other than taking into account that you don't want to take responsibility for your own actions because you realized how stupid it was, so now you're projecting your anger onto someone else.

Please, go have an alka-seltzer and choke on it. People like you make me sick.

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 10:52
#119
Typical-Guy's picture
Typical-Guy
^

He already said it wasn't just this one update. It's everything leading up to it. Reading helps you know. The 9k figure was there just to show you how much he supported the game. I love how you assume he wants to be compensated and all this other crap that was said nowhere in this thread.

Please, go have an alka-seltzer and choke on it. People like you make me sick.

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 10:55
#120
Thimol's picture
Thimol
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but seriously this time OOO

with this patch

you've [screwed] everything

oh what do you know
reading does help
fall down a well, guy, and don't come back

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 10:56
#121
Fallconn's picture
Fallconn
FALCON PUNCH!

^lol^

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 10:58
#122
Typical-Guy's picture
Typical-Guy
"and @ Gell OOO has broke the

"and @ Gell

OOO has broke the camel's back too many times , uncountable"

oh what do you know
reading does help
fall down a well, guy, and don't come back

This is just the patch that upset him the most, which it should because it's like spending 9k on an item and having it drop over 100% value the next day. He never asked for compensation.

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 10:59
#123
Guarder's picture
Guarder
Over 9000!!!!!!

WHAT 9000!?!

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 11:12
#124
Thimol's picture
Thimol
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OOO has broke the camel's back too many times , uncountable",
How is that directly connected to what he was saying? Those mistakes, while serious, were tolerable, otherwise, he'd have left already.

This is just the patch that upset him the most, which it should because it's like spending 9k on an item and having it drop over 100% value the next day.
So... what, he wanted to sell them or something? If he's using those equips, then he should just shut the hell up. It's utterly idiotic saying OH NOES MY MUNNY after spending it to improve your stuff.

He never asked for compensation.
Gee, thanks. I obviously wasn't being sarcastic and whatever, especially taking into account that he spent that much so that he could "have a voice".

Oh, and if you're going to try to recycle my own lines against me, do it right, you tool.

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 11:13
#125
Typical-Guy's picture
Typical-Guy
I'm not trying to recycle

I'm not trying to recycle anything against you. Wanting to quit a game you've spent so much on, and having that value completely drop is normal. You would think Three Rings would want to keep the players like Cocosnake who spend a lot on the game. I absolutely love how all you do is use personal attacks like "do it right, you tool" and "fall down a well, guy, and don't come back." Oh, and "Please, go have an alka-seltzer and choke on it. People like you make me sick." Looks like you're the only joke here.

If you knew how to comprehend that statement, you would know that it means he's been bothered by every update leading up to this one. But I've accepted you can't. Keep defending a low end company like Three Rings everywhere you go. Whining is part of an unhappy playerbase. Go look at any other MMO and you'll see just how much more whining happens in SK. But then again, you probably don't have an MMO background or you wouldn't be playing Spiral Knights.

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 11:14
#126
Marona's picture
Marona
This is me, when someone

This is me, when someone posts a positive comment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8JCX9E0bEI

This is me, when someone is crying like a baby:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAlTOfl9F2w

Now please. Quit crying and get out.

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 11:17
#127
Frostyhawk's picture
Frostyhawk
WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN

Kids play this game folks, if you wanna rage, fight in the lockdown.

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 11:19
#128
Thimol's picture
Thimol
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I'm not trying to recycle anything against you.
oh ur just trollan!

I absolutely love how all you do is use personal attacks like "do it right, you tool" and "fall down a well, guy, and don't come back." Oh, and "Please, go have an alka-seltzer and choke on it. People like you make me sick." Looks like you're the only joke here.
because that totally invalidates all the other things I've said. You're probably one of those kooks who shout "AD HUMMINUS" when someone adds "you idiot" to the end of their argument.

If you knew how to comprehend that statement, you would know that it means he's been bothered by every update leading up to this one.
They don't "lead up to" this update, wait, oh yes, OOO's ultimate goal was to implement a system to lock your desired UVs while rolling for new ones.

But then again, you probably don't have an MMO background or you wouldn't be playing Spiral Knights.
u dun kno wut ur talking about IM MOAR PRO THEN UUU!!!!!((8yiujasf

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 11:24
#129
Typical-Guy's picture
Typical-Guy
It shows you can't hold an

It shows you can't hold an argument or discussion without using personal attacks. The fact you think that every update before this one doesn't "lead up" to this update is hilarious. I guess that means a series of matches doesn't "lead up" to the finals. It's almost pointless arguing with you. I'll do it anyway. Let's keep going.

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 11:31
#130
Erridunno's picture
Erridunno
Holy [poop] man. If you spent

Holy [poop] man. If you spent 9kUS Dollars on ce and kept buying 20kce packages for around $60 dollars each then you should have around 3mil ce (around 200mil cr) thus making you the richest player in the game!

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 11:32
#131
Thimol's picture
Thimol
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It shows you can't hold an argument or discussion without using personal attacks.

Clearly using my own attacks against me is any better, you hypocrite.

The fact you think that every update before this one doesn't "lead up" to this update is hilarious. I guess that means a series of matches doesn't "lead up" to the finals.
Are you deliberately throwing crappy analogies at me or something? Most of each patch focuses on discrete aspects, which is not how a match works. Maybe "OOO's goal was to allow us to lock UVs while rolling for others" was too hard? What I meant was that that wasn't their goal.

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 11:37
#132
Typical-Guy's picture
Typical-Guy
What comes around goes

What comes around goes around.

Their goal on this update is irrelevant. I told you that Cocosnake was bothered by every update leading up to this one, and you proceed to say that the updates before this did not, in fact, lead up to our current update. It seems you're a little confused. Do you need me to start quoting you? This will be Cocosnake's final patch, meaning everything he's experienced lead up to this patch. It's not hard to understand.

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 11:40
#133
Alynn's picture
Alynn
:O

Alynn: "Vegeta, what does the scouter say about his anger level?"
Vegeta: "ITS OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 11:40
#134
Eurydice's picture
Eurydice
Community Manager
Folks. If I see more

Folks. If I see more personal attacks against fellow players in this thread, I'll be locking it. Fair warning.

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 12:08
#135
Thimol's picture
Thimol
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What comes around goes around.

...what? Is that supposed to be a justification or something? You haven't even made a point with this other than "calling others names makes you wrong", which is wrong, but would invalidate everything you've said so far as well, by your rationale.

But in any case, let me make this clear:
It doesn't matter what "led up to" this or whatever. To leave because of this particular patch is stupid, especially since he spent so much on the game already, why stop now?

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 12:14
#136
Typical-Guy's picture
Typical-Guy
It doesn't invalidate

It doesn't invalidate anything I said. It seems you're not accustomed to the golden rule "Treat others how you wish to be treated." I simply treated you how you were treating Cocosnake and myself by using your exact quotes.

It may seem stupid to you. But it's not stupid to others. People have different opinions than you and screw them for having those opinions!

Edit: Just in case, that last part was sarcasm.

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 12:47
#137
Thimol's picture
Thimol
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ok fine whatever

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 12:48
#138
Typical-Guy's picture
Typical-Guy
You edited your post, so I'll

You edited your post, so I'll retract mine.

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 13:44
#139
Iron-Volvametal's picture
Iron-Volvametal
...

"Folks. If I see more personal attacks against fellow players in this thread, I'll be locking it. Fair warning."

Cocosnake is a Poop-Nose.

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 14:28
#140
Soup-Ninja's picture
Soup-Ninja
@Cocosnake

http://i.imgur.com/s6wDV.jpg

^Kon-Ron's post.

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 14:36
#141
Mew-Kat's picture
Mew-Kat
i luv u coco dont leave

i luv u coco dont leave

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 14:40
#142
Seregal's picture
Seregal
Really, this patch didn't

Really, this patch didn't "bless" anybody. From what I glean people are upset cause now others can have the same UV as them. That's it? People are now on their level? That's hardly an argument.

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 14:46
#143
Diamondshreddie's picture
Diamondshreddie
*sigh*

I can understand where you speak from on this Cocosnake, as well as many other people who spend lots of money on this game. I myself have not even rerolled on punch very much, and even i was rather disapointed they would just suddenly spring this up at us. Though im a little glad that i can now try to roll multiple good UVs on whatever i have, and the UV market price will be much more affordable and abundant, but i still believe that players who have had to re-roll on UVs (especially good ones) even just those in the past month or so should recieve some compensation. After all this game is still quite young and subject to development, players should not suffer as a result of an update, let alone one that did not come forewarned.

all im trying to say is this:

should you be mad - YES

should you tell everyone why - Maybe, but i find decisions are best made with a calm mind.

is there anything you can do to immediately change the situation - no, but..

is there anything you can do to gradually help the situation you are in - quite possibly. OOO wants to hear feedback to make sure the majority of players are satisfied. Compensation is only a possibility, though im quite surprised they would make such a large change (especially to something that more heavily revolves around higher paying players) with absolutely ZERO Notice.

so to everyone- just ease up...

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 15:29
#144
Keelan's picture
Keelan
The OP is likely lurking on

The OP is likely lurking on this thread right now laughing and slapping his knee at all of the angry people and will likely be back to playing the game as soon as this thread dies and is forgotten.

I don't get why PvP has become such a priority for people that every game update has to break it for you somehow. When did it matter so much?

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 15:32
#145
Spectrumized's picture
Spectrumized
@Eurydice

Please do. There isn't anything that this thread accomplishes other than people going at each other's virtual-throats. However, it isn't like this thread was really meant to do something other than that anyway.

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 15:52
#146
Kaffaljidhma
What is $9000 worth to you?

I don't think there's any MMO or any video game out there where you can get what I think you want to get, which is a lasting legacy.

Take a look at Guild Wars and WoW. People spend money and time on those, they have a lot of fun, and then they quit without anyone ever knowing they existed. That save you have where you min-maxed all your FFTactics characters to broken levels - other people have done that too. Proud that you topped the local arcade's pacman score? Eventually, someone will displace you Even tournament fighting games change over time and characters players have slaved thousands of hours over have been nerfed or storyline died for the sequels.

This isn't Three Rings' fault, it's just the nature of video games. Video games are designed to fulfill a fast joy of mastery because they are programmed by people whose main purpose is to bring entertainment. No successful video game has you crawling 10,000 hours in the mud just to make a name for yourself, because that's not the purpose of games. They exist for your enjoyment, not as a trophy to wave around showing your superiority to others, and if you look around you'll see that they're better than most activities in getting the most people possible to a skill and accomplishment level to satisfy their investment. You don't see that many success stories with pianos and guitars and cooking and figure skating.

The price games pay for this is that because they're good at getting most people to a level of mastery, the people who reach the top are not as unique as those with more masochistic talents. You can indeed be the best player in a game one week, and dethroned in the next week by a close successor. You share your title with hundreds, and later, thousands as the life of the game goes on and the cycle continues.

If you're looking for a reward for your commitment that will last forever, you won't really find that in a video game. Sure, you could argue that building a colossal structure in Minecraft or designing Little Big Planet or Hammer levels is a way to etch your name into legend, but you aren't really exercising the skills the game employs at that point - you are utilizing your own creativity to make something to show others using the game as only a framework. You aren't really playing the game, which is at that point more of a tool.

Therefore, the only real reason you should have for playing a game is for your own enjoyment, because that was what it was designed for. This is good advice for people who really need to prioritize how much time and effort they spend on video games or any real hobby. If you enjoy playing the game, and you believe your time is well spent playing it, then by all means utilize whatever resources you feel comfortable allocating in order to maximize your entertainment. But if you actually want to create a legacy, or find uniqueness through the game, then you've got to carefully consider the limitations of the framework before you commit - and think hard about what kind of message you actually want to achieve.

Cocosnake has achieved a reasonable return on his investment into this game: he's had the pleasure of spending an impressive amount of money affecting the game's economy, and I'm sure his collection of statistically improbable equipment is commendable. But the limitations of the framework of this game make his feat easily repeatable - in fact, you can bet that another person will follow in his footsteps. He will have the knowledge that he is one of the first to achieve what he has achieved, and really, that's the most you can take away from any MMO.

But as a cautionary tale, please remember the main danger of a microtransaction-based MMO: being able to buy your way into the top tier without really experiencing the game deprives you both of entertainment and uniqueness, and that, not the exodus of old players (which happens every day) is what kills an MMO community. Think hard about how you spend your money and what you're really getting out of your investment. I'm sure both the devs and the future you will consider this good advice, since a person who makes good investment decisions is much more likely to have more resources in the future to spend more ambitiously and effectively on entertainment and everything else. I'm sure it will be less of a burden on both your consciences as well.

Think about the value of your time and money very hard, and be honest about how they will be of best use to you. That is, I think, the best message that can come out of this thread.

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 15:54
#147
Shue-Donnym's picture
Shue-Donnym
Now I see the world through Diamond Eyes!

I like Fiends.

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 16:02
#148
Strudul's picture
Strudul
.

ALL of this is sad.

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 16:04
#149
Shue-Donnym's picture
Shue-Donnym
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEEEEEEGGGGGEEEE QQQUUUUIT

Let's buff retrodes

Thu, 04/26/2012 - 16:07
#150
Kielos
You know what is most

You know what is most disappointing to me about this thread? The fact that a customer spends $9,000 with a company, posts that he is unhappy about the recent patch, and the ONLY reply we get from anyone on OOO Staff is about "keeping the discussion clean and not swearing."

Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic customer service... and it highlights how young and inexperienced OOO is as a business.

I will see you on Diablo 3--you know, the game that is only charging $60 for all in-game content, and not additional $ per run to try and fight the most challenging bosses in the game.

Oh, I am also a P2P player (if that establishes any credibility with the OOO readers... and it should since that's how your company generates revenue).

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