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Thu, 05/03/2012 - 08:50
Kitty-Softpaws's picture
Kitty-Softpaws

Tricks & glitches is all I see in these random parties. The SK community is learning wrongly of how to game. And all you people ever care about is gear & weapons, luckily this game has nothing like racial traits boosts so cosmetic is something to look into. I am don't like gamers. You complain it's too easy or you want more features in the game yet you cheat at the game to make it easy. You can play any crap out there & only thing you would care about is having boss gear. You guys have no moral of anything. No moral in why you play video games, no moral in your lives too I bet. I've been to aussie, I've been to a country ismilar to Cuba, & live in the U.S. Americans have too much freedom, look @ how it's affected you all. I as an American am ashamed at the younger generation of people. What values do you have PERIOD?!

& F.Y.I. Blitz+Shiver is not the only way to do boss fight with Vanaduck. You guys are pitiful, someone like me who plays with keys only has a better moral of gaming than most of you.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 09:00
#1
Kitty-Softpaws's picture
Kitty-Softpaws
I have 8k crs & am a happi

I have 8k crs & am a happi brat right now. You should all be ashamed! If I could I'd love to be a Gremlin, I despise all of you knights! Or work in undercity, "loling" @ your fail attempts because you can't glitch-trick here or w/e! HAH!

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 09:01
#2
Enclavean's picture
Enclavean
Hey Hector :P

TL;DR

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 09:18
#3
Lestatshadow's picture
Lestatshadow
Problem?

tl;dr......

I was thinging about writing something worthwhile back to your derogatory statements, but i did not feel you deserve one so instead QQ some more!

What was that I cant here you over my max shadow and very high percing shadowsun over here.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 09:08
#4
Xombie's picture
Xombie

Cool story, bro.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 09:12
#5
The-Fal's picture
The-Fal
Woah...

http://www.wikihow.com/Calm-Down

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 09:16
#6
Rangerwillx's picture
Rangerwillx
-

Why do you consider yourself "better" for playing with the keys? It's a terrible way to play compared to the mouse.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 09:18
#7
Metagenic's picture
Metagenic
wait what?

Since when was mouse+keyboard a sign of decadence?

[edit] Rangerwill beat me to it

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 09:19
#8
Softhead's picture
Softhead
O_O

I use the freezing line....

Ouch....

But it's an efficant way of doing it.

If you use guides for games, then it's the same as using shiv, blitz and wolver.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 09:21
#9
Softhead's picture
Softhead
Everything else,

Eh.

Well let's play non onlineMNO games!

Consoles and not MNO pc games. Only glitch patches.

Now calm down, you're giving people entertainment....

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 09:25
#10
Canine-Vladmir's picture
Canine-Vladmir
O.O

*cough* future Fidel Castro! *cough*
um...wht are u trying to say? players are cheater because they what??? use weapons made by Dev?
i think you forgot what cheating is http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cheat
anyway you worry too much! you cant cheat in SK XD
ps. i have no idea how you brought Americans to this. many other nationalities play SK too u knw?

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 09:43
#11
Kitty-Softpaws's picture
Kitty-Softpaws
I know other nationalities

I know other nationalities play SK too FOO, I'm not 5. MY CONCERN IS THAT LOOK @ WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THESE NEWBS, THESE PROTO GEAR FOOLS WHO KNOW NOTHING OF THE PAST! They're like: "Anyone have shivermist & blitz in the party?"The party says no and the girl's like: "Ah well I'm going up guys, gg". NU UH, WAIT JUST A MINIUTE FOO, I stocked up all these pills just for Lord Vanaduke, what.. what is this| What do you think this is? I came here for Almarian tokens so I can finally get my almire shield & get my arsze out of FSC & do PUG runs in Arcade even if they are Basil.

You do the proto newb of my time back when I was around in November or in May, here you grew up to be a 5* player & have been taught that Lord Vanaduke can only be done with Shiver+Blitz Needler? Waaahhhh? Listen you punk noob, it wasn't always like this okay? You listen up & you listen up good you proto recruit, let me tell you something about beta, about September & Launch days, Boss Vana runs weren't always shiver & Blitz & back i those days Blitz Needler was highly under valued.

How about you go back to the training center & learn to be a real Knight. I'll show all of you, I'm bringing back beta days. Enclavean you & protoknight will help me. I'd like for us to do a 4 man run on boss fighting Vanaduke with no shivermist & we're just doing water duty like we're throwing water @ Vanaduke's fireballs & we make an opening to get our swords @ him. These random PUGs don't know squat of beta, it's a shame what how these new players play. AND ALSO, what is UP with this wall thing in FSC? Like that wall of totems you guys do in the depth before Vanaduke fight?!? wuut?? You people should go back to T1 if you're going to play like niblits.

I looked up to you ranger, I am ashamed now. Everyone here criticizing me are a bunch of motherless rats who wished they were breast fed but weren't.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 09:55
#12
Lestatshadow's picture
Lestatshadow
is it just me of dose this

is it just me of dose this guy need to STFU, crying that everyone use silvermist or blitz are usless. but cant hack it and whine about it when someone say there going up learn to solo it you scrub or are you. "Ummmm how did you put it, ah yes a proto newb who grew up to be a 5* player"

clearly you are a talentless underachiever without any desirable asset to offer anyone.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 09:55
#13
Softhead's picture
Softhead
-_-

He's trolling.

If I'm wrong, then let the next BN match horribly kill me in the first second of the match.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 09:59
#14
Dirt's picture
Dirt
0/10 Would not read again or

0/10
Would not read again or recommend to friends.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 10:03
#15
Gzilla's picture
Gzilla
Things have gone too far

Can you stop with the insults since it get's you NOWHERE, honestly what makes you think you're better then the SK community? It's a GAME, maybe you should just calm down so you don't do anything you'll regret?

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 10:11
#16
Kitty-Softpaws's picture
Kitty-Softpaws
I never did like you Dirt,

I never did like you Dirt, you remind me of the adultswim forum mods who are always being jerks & bad mods. OOOs, do not make a mod system here, these players can't think selflessly. As a human, I speak of all humankind when I say this, even for you the company as humans have your own little squabbles as to how you feel about each individual forumer but you have your works as a company so are not irrationally selfish like the players.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 10:18
#17
Fallconn's picture
Fallconn
FALCON PUNCH!

you have problem with me using Polaris to shock the Skellies in FSC, to destroy that invisible block in the rocket puppy room? problem? >:]

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 10:20
#18
Thimol's picture
Thimol
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i am 12 and what is this

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 10:26
#19
Kitty-Softpaws's picture
Kitty-Softpaws
Enough of the goofy talk:

In seriousness tho, you guys really aren't good at socializing in mmorpgs. You gamers can't sync-play with someone who is making it obvious for you to sync with them. Some of you are really talented & are amazingly smart but you just lack the importance of that intelligence which is easily obvious of how you can benefit more if you think more selflessly. Look at me in LD, I'm those shielding-wall guy guys, I get the lowest damage ratio but always come in 1st or 2nd on the boards due to me capping & me doing my job which is to heal & shield the players. Here's my issue, most of you are just terrible at being the "team player!" since you don't seem to understand my giant shield heals & gives you a bigger defense & completely ignore my assistance as if I wasn't even there. I've learned to play like this but you guys just... I have so much tolerance for the internet before all my buttons are pushed & I explode of rage blog.

Stick to console gaming MLG gamers. /make rude gesture

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 10:28
#20
Raisinfist's picture
Raisinfist
You know what?

Here, I think I agree with the OP. The game should be more about TEAMWORK. Too many times have I been blinded by Pulsar spam. Too many times have I shot full of holes someone who has TWO HEART TRINKETS and would've killed them if they had been any normal person, only to be speared on the end of their flourish.
I try to help people, here and in-game. I don't just play for the best gear, in any game. The only reason why I'm still here is that I've helped so many people, and there are so many more to be helped, that it sticks. And, I'm only Tier 2 atm, but I DON'T REALLY CARE.
You know what games are for? To have fun, and to let others have fun as well. Not to get all the 'best' gear, not to become stinking rich, and definitely not to just exploit it for the sake of it.
Honestly, with the exploits. If you need something there to make the game easier, maybe you should go back to tier 1. At least, there, we would get more decent people lower down.
When (if) I hit endgame, I'll try to do a proto run through the entire of Tier 3, no deaths, no pills, no trinkets, but maybe the odd 5* weapon. Until then, I'm not complaining. When I do that, maybe I'll be experienced enough to suggest new parts, or to ask (politely) for new content.
@OP It's true, I've seen a video of someone doing it with a hammer and Leviathan blade. Solo.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 10:30
#21
Seesevn's picture
Seesevn
Time for some post break-downs

"Tricks & glitches is all I see in these random parties. The SK community is learning wrongly of how to game."
-Using glitches is wrong period, using tricks after the first time is fine. Makes grinding more enjoyable or at least quicker

"And all you people ever care about is gear & weapons, luckily this game has nothing like racial traits boosts so cosmetic is something to look into."
-The entire game is a giant gear-based progression system, of COURSE it's all we care about. Besides enjoyment of course, which comes from variation and getting more gear

"I am don't like gamers."
-Pardon?

"You complain it's too easy or you want more features in the game yet you cheat at the game to make it easy. You can play any crap out there & only thing you would care about is having boss gear."
- You're only talking about the people who have done everything in the game, it's only natural they want new content. Finding new tricks and strategies is the only way to keep the game alive for these people. And again, exploiting glitches is wrong, pretty much the only thing I agree with. And again, the game is all about gear progression so wanting more gear is the intention.

"You guys have no moral of anything. No moral in why you play video games, no moral in your lives too I bet. I've been to aussie, I've been to a country ismilar to Cuba, & live in the U.S. Americans have too much freedom, look @ how it's affected you all. I as an American am ashamed at the younger generation of people. What values do you have PERIOD?!"
-Yes, because how we play a FTP game on Steam and your obviously borked view of American citizens shows the moral values of America.

"& F.Y.I. Blitz+Shiver is not the only way to do boss fight with Vanaduck. You guys are pitiful, someone like me who plays with keys only has a better moral of gaming than most of you."
-It's the most profitable & easy-to-access mission, of course it's going to be played the most. On top of this, Shivermist + blitz is the most effective, so why should we stop using it if nothing else but to challenge ourselves (which is something older players do anyway with friends)

"I know other nationalities play SK too FOO, I'm not 5. MY CONCERN IS THAT LOOK @ WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THESE NEWBS, THESE PROTO GEAR FOOLS WHO KNOW NOTHING OF THE PAST! They're like: "Anyone have shivermist & blitz in the party?"The party says no and the girl's like: "Ah well I'm going up guys, gg". NU UH, WAIT JUST A MINIUTE FOO, I stocked up all these pills just for Lord Vanaduke, what.. what is this| What do you think this is? I came here for Almarian tokens so I can finally get my almire shield & get my arsze out of FSC & do PUG runs in Arcade even if they are Basil."
-No offense, but now you're just sounding like a child. Proto gear fools? Have you forgotten EVERYONE get's proto gear? I'm not saying whoever says that is right, but at least think before you post this rubbish.
-Wait didn't you just say gear wasn't everything? And yet you bash existing content and say it's just for the gear? awwwkwaaaard

"You do the proto newb of my time back when I was around in November or in May, here you grew up to be a 5* player & have been taught that Lord Vanaduke can only be done with Shiver+Blitz Needler? Waaahhhh? Listen you punk noob, it wasn't always like this okay? You listen up & you listen up good you proto recruit, let me tell you something about beta, about September & Launch days, Boss Vana runs weren't always shiver & Blitz & back i those days Blitz Needler was highly under valued."
-Ah, so it's everyone who ISN'T you is a proto noob, I gotcha. Games evolve and people find the best tactics to further enjoy the game. If this wasn't intended, OOO would've nerfed stuff or changed the game to be more difficult or to force players to do it the 'right' way. If players enjoy playing easy mode vana rather than stab their eyes out trying to poke him with anything else, who are you to judge? Besides, we now have a harder version of vana that that tactic doesn't work too well on anyway.

"How about you go back to the training center & learn to be a real Knight. I'll show all of you, I'm bringing back beta days. Enclavean you & protoknight will help me. I'd like for us to do a 4 man run on boss fighting Vanaduke with no shivermist & we're just doing water duty like we're throwing water @ Vanaduke's fireballs & we make an opening to get our swords @ him. These random PUGs don't know squat of beta, it's a shame what how these new players play. AND ALSO, what is UP with this wall thing in FSC? Like that wall of totems you guys do in the depth before Vanaduke fight?!? wuut?? You people should go back to T1 if you're going to play like niblits."
-I think I've covered enough poiunts where I don't have to say anything here, but you're really starting to sound like an elitist 5-year-old

"I looked up to you ranger, I am ashamed now. Everyone here criticizing me are a bunch of motherless rats who wished they were breast fed but weren't."
-"I'M RIGHT, AND EVERYONE WHO SAYS OTHERWISE IS A STUPID POOPFACE! *stomps feet*"

Fantastic way to kill time right here.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 10:31
#22
Softhead's picture
Softhead
?

I don't find Blitz/shiv an exploit. More of a tactic.

Water caging(or somthing like that) is an exploit.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 10:33
#23
Fallconn's picture
Fallconn
FALCON PUNCH!

yeah, i kinda like to play it safe, especially if i'm dragging some noobs through FSC, ty for calling me a noob, ty ty.....

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 10:41
#24
Delvro
I'm not quite sure if this

I'm not quite sure if this guy is for real or not. Gaming morals? Seriously? Now we're making up an arbitrary set of behavioral codes towards inanimate objects (games)? What a joke.

Unless you're speaking of not being a complete jerk to other people, in which case you're just talking about regular morals.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 11:13
#25
Kitty-Softpaws's picture
Kitty-Softpaws
"I know other nationalities

"I know other nationalities play SK too FOO, I'm not 5. MY CONCERN IS THAT LOOK @ WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THESE NEWBS, THESE PROTO GEAR FOOLS WHO KNOW NOTHING OF THE PAST! They're like: "Anyone have shivermist & blitz in the party?"The party says no and the girl's like: "Ah well I'm going up guys, gg". NU UH, WAIT JUST A MINIUTE FOO, I stocked up all these pills just for Lord Vanaduke, what.. what is this| What do you think this is? I came here for Almarian tokens so I can finally get my almire shield & get my arsze out of FSC & do PUG runs in Arcade even if they are Basil."
-No offense, but now you're just sounding like a child. Proto gear fools? Have you forgotten EVERYONE get's proto gear? I'm not saying whoever says that is right, but at least think before you post this rubbish.
-Wait didn't you just say gear wasn't everything? And yet you bash existing content and say it's just for the gear? awwwkwaaaard

Don't twist my words Seesevn, I'm watching you now. The devs & GMs don't feel my pain. Creators don't know how it feels to be the player....

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 11:10
#26
Amanzi's picture
Amanzi
Wait, am I cheating if I use Shiver in Lockdown?

You're completely right! I'm going to throw out my Shivermist and Plague Needle and resort to using a Silversix. No wait, that just taking strafing and shooting to do, no skill involved at all. I'll use a Barbarous Thorn Blade! No wait, that's an OP weapon, especially in Lockdown. I've got it! I will use a Kamarin, although, since I'm broke and I shouldn't exploit the game with tricks and easy strategies. I'll go through the Arcade to make a new sword to show that I'm not nooby!

Actually, I think I'll just stick to my noobishness and rejoice as Vana dies a horrible death at the hands of my Shiver/Plague. I hope that means I'm still allowed to partake in the new content.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 11:16
#27
Giannii's picture
Giannii
Beat vana with swords

Beat vana with swords

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 11:59
#28
Dukeplatypus's picture
Dukeplatypus
Look at me in LD, I'm those

Look at me in LD, I'm those shielding-wall guy guys, I get the lowest damage ratio but always come in 1st or 2nd on the boards due to me capping & me doing my job which is to heal & shield the players
you know that individual placement on the board is random, right?

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 12:33
#29
Seesevn's picture
Seesevn
And suddenly LOGIC

"Don't twist my words Seesevn, I'm watching you now. The devs & GMs don't feel my pain. Creators don't know how it feels to be the player...."

I am quite sarcastically shaking in my bubble of anonymity.
If I wanted to twist your words, I wouldn't have quoted the original post. This is merely my interpretation; You stated earlier that all anyone ever cares about is gear and weapons, yet you state that the only reason you do vana is to get gear and weapons. You're either using your previous stance saying that gear isn't everything and therefore belittling the content because that's all you think it's for, or you've forgotten what you were trying to say halfway through your argument.

Also, the GM's can read, and are well aware of Vanaduke's reduced difficulty because of Shiver+Blitz, as with many other exploits that they've been fixing or trying to fix. We recently saw an update that prevents people from doing both sides of one of the FSC floors and various sprite bugfixes. Not to mention Darkfire Vana is, according to the wiki, immune to shivermist, which means the devs were aware of this easy mode and took it away for the hardcore version.

They also value the player's opinions; why else would they have surveys, and actually bother to have a suggestions forum, a bug reports forum, and even a forum at all? But instead of just straight up insulting everyone who uses a tactic, why don't you just say your opinion on why you don't like it in a respectable way, and perhaps suggest how the game can be improved so that it isn't as cheap a tactic?

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 12:53
#30
Aumir's picture
Aumir
Funny

>"Not to mention Darkfire Vana is, according to the wiki, immune to shivermist, which means the devs were aware of this easy mode and took it away for the hardcore version."
I read somewhere that his inmunity disappears if the fires are put out. Though, as someone who can't get there, I can't confirm...

Anyway, it is true that some people should stop trying to be the hero always and coop more, as soon as I get to the 2nd FSC stage everyone spreads instead of helping out each other. I get what they would be thinking, but is more fun to play together, not to say it makes it easier... (than it already is)

But wtf at the original purpose of the thread xD

And +1 at team-based content. That way Tortodrone could return its original way, weren't two people required to beat one?

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 13:05
#31
Rommil's picture
Rommil
this thread nees

catty-heavy-hands,

we need more run-on sentences, more sentence fragments, less paragraph breaks, and MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE CAPS LOCKS, if you ever expect anyone to take you seriously.

Also, unless you get around 5k words per post, tl;dr

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 13:08
#32
Rommil's picture
Rommil
also

just in case this thread is serious, Kitty, people exploit glitches to get through the endless grind of doing the same dumb things over and over all that much quicker.

No one is looking to cherish and explore the FSC experience for the 1millionth time.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 13:11
#33
Asukalan's picture
Asukalan
What did you drink? Or rather

What did you drink? Or rather how much did you drink? Kitty?

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 13:21
#34
Kitty-Softpaws's picture
Kitty-Softpaws
I have never been so insulted

I have never been so insulted in this game! Such a crude undesirable community you have all become. I will be taking a short break from the forums, OBVIOUSLY you people do not understand my values of how people only assume that Vanaduke can be defeated with shiver+Blitz which is a highly false statement. YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND PICK UP GROUPS LIKE I DO TO ASSUME ANY OF MY POSTS POSTED ON HERE! First of all, by gear I mean it by DPS UV. It's just damage damage damage to all of you. Bombers have become extinct, defense is highly disliked which is silly because in this game defense means a lot if you're a scrubbish player who takes a snipe-poop load of damage & die a lot. SKOLVER SKOLVER SKOLVER, VOG VOG VOG. YOU KNOW, JUST GET RID OF ALL THE OTHER GEAR IF THIS IS WHAT ALL THERE WILL BE SEEN IN THIS GAME FOR PVE & PVP.

How people change, YOUR PARENT'S SHOULD HAVE RAISED YOU SPOILED KIDS BETTER & THEIR PARENTS BEFORE THEM THE SAME WITH THEM. Reflect on these words people: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq9UcURCQfQ

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 13:31
#35
Gwenyvier's picture
Gwenyvier
Kitty-Softpaws, aka

Kitty-Softpaws, aka Hector-Uribe, aka Bebopx loves PUGs... http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/12624 . That is all.

~Newg

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 13:35
#36
Kyle-Zz's picture
Kyle-Zz
Wait, you mean ALL of the us?

Wait, you mean ALL of the us? I rarely use the wolver line, and by rarely, I mean like rarely! >_<

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 13:36
#37
Kitty-Softpaws's picture
Kitty-Softpaws
just in case this thread is

just in case this thread is serious, Kitty, people exploit glitches to get through the endless grind of doing the same dumb things over and over all that much quicker.

No one is looking to cherish and explore the FSC experience for the 1millionth time.

I had an apprentice recently as I would like to refer to her as, she wasn't that great @ first with her cobalt style but then traded up to Vog & surpassed me in gear. She lasted for 4 weeks, it was a shame that most of the skills she had came from glitching & tricking since that's how she learned. Same for FSC, she never knew there are other ways of playing the game /FSC then just doing these quick easy grinds. & the worst part that made me hate her & abandon her was that she only thought Lord Vanadukee could be done with shiver & never ever decided to go down there unless the party had shivermist buster regardless of how amazing the players were & did FSC extremely smoothly which obviously after she left us, we easily accomplished the mission with just 20 energy revs in around 10mins. SHIVERMIST + BLITZ DOESN'T MEAN YOU ARE A GOOD PLAYER OR THAT YOU ONLY JUDGE ACCOMPLISHMENTS & VICTORIES ON AN FSC-BOSS-FIGHT MISSION OR DEPTH RUN BY THAT ALONE.

I am sadden to see a young one like her, from proto newbie to cobalt to vog easily play the way the easy-layoff-grindage players do. She thought that was the only way to do FSC & that's how she did it. WE ARE TAINTING THE MINDS OF THE NEXT GENERATION OF SPIRAL KNIGHTS, SHE QUIT BORED OF THE EASY FSC THAT SHE CAN NOW SOLO. IT IS A SHAME, I AM SADDEN @ YOU SK COMMUNITY. Calling FSC easy & have just 4 weeks of the game not even playing it the right way. REFUSING CO-OP ASSISTANCES & BECOME A SNARBOLXAHDLAHFL SOLOIST PLAYER. I AM ONE FURIOUS KITTEN RIGHT NOW, I DEMAND CHANGE!

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 13:51
#38
Kitty-Softpaws's picture
Kitty-Softpaws
Gwen you know I've been your fan before it became popular...

Did you get my friend requests Gwen? I sent you 3 already?? Or did you not get them, let me send you another friend request then just to be sure.

P.s. I HAVE CHANGED, I AM NOT LIKE THAT ANYMORE. I am just venting right now, I'm a mute player in-game so I don't go berserk like that in PUG runs anymore. It's a shame those players I've PUGGED with don't go on the SK forums. I'm always the one having to carry these groups, maybe if they didn't have piercing defense in FSC which is a shadow stratum & had fire resist then maybe I wouldn't have to carry them & maybe we didn't have to see you waste energy on the first depth of firestorm & see you ragequit at the depth after it shortly after using up 50 energy for nothing when I'm running to you to rev you. OOOs, let us types in caps for our sentences btw, these players cannot see my text of how I am going to revive you with my health obviously... OBIVOUSLLY...

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 13:46
#39
Guyinshinyarmour
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Assuming srs:
Ah. I think I see what he's getting at. He's pissed off that no one will carry him through Vana because he can't contribute anything during the match. Well, guess what? I got sick of carrying 4 man teams through P5 Vana with my AP long ago. I go up/solo if the team is just gonna be a liability.

Also, shivblitz is king in pug groups for one reason; it's the one tactic that idiots can do with a low chance of failure. You want to sword takedown with pugs? Ha. Join a decent guild or get some friends together for that. Better yet, do it yourself. That seems popular these days.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 13:46
#40
Strudul's picture
Strudul
This should be suitable here

Blatant Self Promotion

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 13:47
#41
Arctifice's picture
Arctifice
There aren't any likely game

There aren't any likely game breaking bugs in FSC from what I can remember. Just the odd AP/Polaris trickshotting wheels. Your friend is just good.

Why don't you get on her level?

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 14:05
#42
Tenkii's picture
Tenkii
@vanaduke, anyway

It's funny - recently, I've been doing shiverless runs for Vanaduke - most of which we complete without wiping out. In fact, recently, I and another friend helped carry two people (one guy didn't have a gun, and the other guy had a supernova and kept using it in CLOSE RANGE) through the Vanaduke boss fight, all without shivermist. I think we may have only wiped out once that time, if at all.

I've grown a huge dislike for shivermist because people use it stupidly ("hey, instead of letting you vortex all the monsters together so they get killed quicker, i'm going to FREEZE THEM FAR AWAY FROM EACH OTHER" ; "hey, i'm a bomber cuz i hav shivermist lolz, i'm going to FREEZE ALL THE MONSTERS IN FRONT OF THE TOTEMS"). I'm trying to spread the gospel of vortex, but I swear, shivermist just gives people bad habits lol.

I think the main 'problem' is that people see one successful way to get through (I need to freeze Vanaduke so he doesn't keep attacking with his mace!), and then people imitate it, and at some point down the line, people forget WHY they're doing it (I need to freeze every single monster because ?? idk lol) and just become kind of... routine.

As far as weapon choice, Blitz is understandable - its charge attack deals a LOT of damage to Vanaduke, which means you spend less time dancing around with slag guards chasing after you. I believe when we did that run, my friend used Volcanic Pepperbox, and I used Blitz. People choose Blitz because it ends the fight quicker, which is what many skilled players go for.

People choose Shivermist because it makes the fights safer, which is what many less-skilled players go for.

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@ glitches:
People have been abusing glitches in FSC since last year lol. The reason is simple: FSC is profitable. Almirian seals are profitable (30 seals --> 30k after selling armor to the NPC). People did things to make the run either quicker or easier. I still remember how people used Divine Avenger to kill the wheel machines and get rid of walls ahead of time, used totem tricks to trap Trojans, pushed slag walkers to the top of the screen so Vanaduke wouldn't spawn guards, trapped Vanaduke behind the water...

All those things were because people wanted profit. Because people want energy. Because people want to get the gears and do the things they want. Because they don't want to pay money (which is actually a pretty good deal, if you have a job - you can grind Vanaduke nonstop for like 3 days and make 3k CE, or spend 1-2 hours of pay and get 3.5k CE for 10 USD).

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 14:01
#43
Goofio's picture
Goofio
Well, I guess this is one way

Well, I guess this is one way to stir up some activity in the forum. Nice troll post.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 14:02
#44
Coatl's picture
Coatl
People get shivermist because

People get shivermist because it makes the fight more managable, as well as safer. Just because someone has shivermist, does not mean they are unskilled.

Take for example vortex. It's a good bomb while it's sucking groups of mobs, but after that it sends them flying into your face. However, if you lay a vortex and gather the mobs and place a shivermist after, they aren't sent all over the place. This makes fights faster and, yes, simpler.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 14:08
#45
Kyle-Zz's picture
Kyle-Zz
Meh, I do vana runs

Meh, I do vana runs shivermist or not.
I don't give a crap if no one has a shivermist, I always just get on the lift ASAP

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 14:08
#46
Tenkii's picture
Tenkii
Coatl

Man, I've been in like 2 parties where the shiverkid actually allowed Vortex to do its job before freezing them.

Even without extra CTR, you can chain Vortex together - at least for Electron Vortex. The main thing is that the Vortex bomber is 'trapped' and must keep using it, or the monsters will (unless shocked) eventually escape.

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but that's all off-topic to the OP ;P

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 14:14
#47
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Kitty-Softpaws
People have been abusing

People have been abusing glitches in FSC since last year lol. The reason is simple: FSC is profitable. Almirian seals are profitable (30 seals --> 30k after selling armor to the NPC). People did things to make the run either quicker or easier. I still remember how people used Divine Avenger to kill the wheel machines and get rid of walls ahead of time, used totem tricks to trap Trojans, pushed slag walkers to the top of the screen so Vanaduke wouldn't spawn guards, trapped Vanaduke behind the water...

All those things were because people wanted profit.The 5* veterans of tomorrow will learn to play like this & like this alone then become soloist players. Cheating the game & then complaining about how it's too easy & they want more game content.

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That is the moral of this thread.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 14:19
#48
Softhead's picture
Softhead
-_-

Where the heck is Eury when you need her?

I swear, If I get ninja'd by her, I will do somthing so horrible that the internet will explode in fear.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 15:40
#49
Shue-Donnym's picture
Shue-Donnym
No subject line spam here, move along

How much antifreeze did you sniff to get so high and where can I get some.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 15:49
#50
Tenkii's picture
Tenkii
@Kitty

You left out this part from your quote:
The reason they want the profit.

All those things were because people wanted profit. Because people want energy. Because people want to get the gears and do the things they want. Because they don't want to pay money (which is actually a pretty good deal, if you have a job - you can grind Vanaduke nonstop for like 3 days and make 3k CE, or spend 1-2 hours of pay and get 3.5k CE for 10 USD).

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I know I'm grinding Vanaduke right now because I want CE to make more gunner sets, because I found amusement in using guns.

Profit purely for the sake of profit is... kind of unfulfilling, to an extent.

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