a few simple ideas

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Aotr's picture
Aotr

server maintance=the reason i quit maplestory and dark orbit, why u no have two servers?

Aemicus's picture
Aemicus
@Aotr

Go play the game for longer than a few hours before coming back. At your apparent rate of learning, it should only take you about a month before you're ready for the forum community.

1. Already done, for heat. Energy and crowns would be op.
2. ALREADY DONE.
3. Already been discussed. Use the search bar.
4. No. No. No. Imagine if all 4 people had a movement/attack speed increase buff. No.

Luguiru's picture
Luguiru
See above post

Only a month from where they are now? I would have prescribed at least two, three for the suggestions subforum.

There is a heat increasing upgrade available but it costs more than the mist tank can hold alone.

There is an attachment feature for mail, it is somewhat visible in the bottom right corner of the letter.

You want new areas? Design them and what is available in them.

This has been discussed before and promoted by my own experiences in games with completely different mechanics such as Wakfu and Dofus. In Spiral Knights it would be unbalanced to have this for open combat, though in a certain thread in a certain post it may create an interesting atmosphere for two opposing factions with opposite abilities to conflict on a battlefield. For regular gameplay, no; for only one person in a player versus player minigame, maybe.

Aotr's picture
Aotr
@Aemicus i've played for some

@Aemicus i've played for some time now and i've read a lot of the wiki

Aotr's picture
Aotr
and by the way people here

and by the way people here seem to be even more critical about other people posts the on the minecraft forums(where people will literally swear at you)

Kraanx's picture
Kraanx
u mad,bro? go play minecraft

u mad,bro?
go play minecraft then

Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer
Critical?

It's logic.

The balance in SK is fairly delicate. One step in the wrong direction and the whole game'd screw itself over.

And half of your ideas have already been implemented ages ago. The other has been discussed, and the last is OP.

Your ideas don't have two-ways about them. Therefore not critical, seeing as there's only one path. It's a dead end. There's no 'maybe'.

What Aemicus means is that you should play the game LONGER and get a better idea of the way the game works, as well as reading the wiki and 'spectating' the forums before trying to post suggestions.

Because either they've been discussed/shot down or deemed not suitable for the game.

Find a gap in the game good enough to make a suggestion worth fighting for, THEN you will see critics.

With this thread, all you'll see are irritated posters shooting down your ideas with high powered sniper rifles, because there isn't much to discuss other than telling you why it's not going to work.

Aotr's picture
Aotr
@Kraanx i've played minecraft

@Kraanx i've played minecraft for like the past 3 years and its getting boring thats why i'm playing spiral knights now

Aotr's picture
Aotr
@Psychodestroyer

"'spectating' the forums" i never do that , cause i'm the sort of person that just dives into things when they're a case of tl;dr

Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer
^

That.

Is what will get you into trouble.

Don't say I didn't warn you.

Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
@Aotr

As a fellow minecraft to SK player, I'll help you out on the forums.

But you have to be careful of what you say here. Unlike the minecraftforum where it's a community of millions who see millions of random faces go by, this place is much smaller, and you're much more well known. This can work for you or against you. Minecraft also does not have an age limit, while this game does. So people here expect you to act older than 13.
If you disrupt the forums (by posting spam or not well thought out ideas) it will bite you in the butt. There are already a few users here who are well known for their disruptive nature.

Anyway, welcome to the forums. So far you've met:
Me, the optimist, but dogmatic rambler.
Psychodestroyer, the (person who can change their opinion very quickly of you if you say the wrong thing) dude that is pretty smart.
Aemicus, the crazy (and sometimes VERY ANGRY :P) person who I don't see all that much but might be funny every now and then
and Luguiru the guy who will post a very honest and well written report on your idea, even though it might be so mean it makes you cry.

--HexZyle

Metagenic's picture
Metagenic
Just a heads up

1. This idea is taboo, I won't bash it but there are people who will. The energy system is designed to keep the economy in check and faster mist regeneration or more cr/heat per level would break the economy beyond salvation. Until recently, the King of Ashes mission spewed out such a massive amount of crowns per level that OOO had to intervene twice and finally decrease its payout by nearly half when their previous methods failed.
2. We already have this.
3. Sorry, but no point as the game has a relatively small community and it's not about exploring towns anyway.
4. We already have those (just not with teammate buffs).

PS. Hexzyle introduce me too pl0x

Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
@Metagenic

Lol I don't see you around enough to introduce you :P

A lot of the time you're disagreeing with ideas I post. That's not a bad thing. Maybe we just don't share the same mindset.

Aemicus's picture
Aemicus
@Hex

I used to be on here a lot more... and I used to be nicer too. A mixture of Bluebrawler, Njthug, Fattykiller, God of something, I can't remember his name anymore, Fallconn posting "FALCON PUNCH" in EVERY single topic line, the game becoming P2P, and new annoying people who jump onto the suggestion forums without taking time to learn the game have all hardened me into this bitter, cracking shell you see now. Just ask Derpules, I used to be as happy and free as my avatar.

And I think I'm funny more than "now and again"... at least to certain jaded people like me who take pleasure in watching Luguiru come into a thread and everyone start sobbing because of it.

Oh, and Aotr? This should be your starting point: http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/forum/2

Mk-Vl's picture
Mk-Vl
Don't forget me :p

I'm usually here or on General discussion.

But seriously I'm going to talk about your fourth point because like everyone else said the first three are redundant/inane.

The balance of this game is that everything has pros and cons (except wolver armour for some gawd-aweful reason).
We already have self boosts in the form of trinkets. They fall into three rough categories; health, defense, or offense. Having only two slots makes you choose which you want, hence the cons of not having all the bonuses.
As for buffing teammates one could argue that any status inducing weapon gives your team an advantage. But you seem more of the idea that you want a direct buff. For this to work in any way it must be balanced.

For example
A team defense buff may include med bumps to all four major damage types with very high reductions to dmg and asi/ctr
This could replace your shield and work like the extended guardian shield but without the delay. The defense would be good for a squad who has trouble dodging and just need that little bit extra to stay alive.

All about balance. High reward needs higher risk. Lower rewards can keep a lower to none risk

Aemicus's picture
Aemicus
@Mk-Vl

To be fair, wolver armor does have lower defense that the other two main piercing-d armors, cobalt and jelly.

Mk-Vl's picture
Mk-Vl
@aemicus

That is true but it is not low enough to make a significant difference in T2 and T3. Now if it had the defense of the star level below it currently has that would make more sense. Do more damage but take more damage.

Aemicus's picture
Aemicus
I think that's going a bit

I think that's going a bit far... But this thread isn't about that. Back to bashing Aotr.

Nechrome's picture
Nechrome
I would post something, but

I would post something, but everything I was planning to say has already been said. Sort of.

4. equipment that gives you or players around you buffs (such as attack boost, defence boost,movement speed up and so forth)

Trikets give you damage bonuses for some weapons, and heart trikets give you health bonuses. Then there are UVs, which give special bonuses as well. And some armor give speed bonuses (Ex: Mecurial Set)

And now you've met me, (Lordof)Necro(mancers), a geeky hard-to-tick-off well-known guy who writes really epic stories and suggestions. Seerusly. :D

Mk-Vl's picture
Mk-Vl
I love how seerusly has

I love how seerusly has become such a staple on the forums :P

Serell's picture
Serell
Hi.

I'm Serell.

Aemicus's picture
Aemicus
Serell is a long time poster

Serell is a long time poster who I can't remember anything about probably because he never rages at people.

Shue-Donnym's picture
Shue-Donnym
No subject line spam here, move along

Hi.

I don't like this thread.

/gets more of Aemicus's tea

/sluuuuuuurrrrrppp

/hits thread with a can of malt beer

Aemicus's picture
Aemicus
Pladypus is a person who

Pladypus is a person who violates tea...

Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer
XD

"I love how seerusly has become such a staple on the forums :P"

I love it how it came to that too, considering I invented it.

I am so proud! *sniff*

@Hex: So true.

EDIT: Aside from that 'smart' bit. I still have doubts on that.

Pity that really, I used to be a lot nicer.

However, my 'hate' list is really short. It's not VERY easy to get on my 'bad opinion' side, but to get on my BAD side...that's somewhat hard really.

It takes anything from incessant raging, refusal of wrongdoing, racist/sexist/category-ist banter, among a few. They're mostly extreme-ish things anyway, so you don't really need to watch your back about it, just don't be a [posterior] and I'll probably leave you alone :)

So don't get too paranoid around me.

Riicecake
Hi

Hi

Eternal-Koniko's picture
Eternal-Koniko
o-o

Hello, I'm Garlic. I'm weird, helpful, and logical one...Most the time.

Aotr's picture
Aotr
this is getting a little big

its really turning into a intro-page now which is awesome in ways both good and bad

Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer
That's because

The thread topic is now somewhat irrelevant because the ideas have either already been implemented in a similar form or shot-down or the like, as we have already explained.

Serell's picture
Serell
Waffles

"Serell is a long time poster who I can't remember anything about probably because he never rages at people."
Oh. You want to hear me rage?

Schattentag's picture
Schattentag
's about time I gave you an intro.

I'm Manalicious-Knight.

Many moons ago I was one of those guys that would try to put in constructive feedback for everything that came up in the Suggestions Forum. Then stuff came up - trolls (search "Bluebrawler" or "oh god why seriously") and people who decided that they didn't want to hear what I had to say because they thought I was being mean or some crap like that. I exploded in fiery rage (see this thread) and now I'm on the path to recovery. I don't post on every thread, but I'm still generally quick to shoot down the ones I consider bad, provide information on the ones whose creators I sense to be ignorant, and build on those I find interesting. There are times I deem threads too cruddy for me to even bother with, and other times when I feel that threads are developing fine without my input.

Oftentimes you may find that I seem a little harsh, but most likely I will have provided reasoning I consider ample. It's rare that I'll change my views, especially negative ones. I'm the founder of the guild [Crusher of Dreams] and I wear the label proudly under my name to warn would-be Suggestions posters that people may not like their ideas.

...Alright so maybe people actually don't have any idea that the name holds significance, but whatever.

P.S. This was one of those threads I considered too cruddy to care about. Don't take it personally, and have a nice day.

Asukalan's picture
Asukalan
Hai, guis, whats going in

Hai, guis, whats going in this thread?

Lol, Aotr

What you expect from other forumers, after your pathetic entrance of necroing a 18 month old thread?

Aemicus's picture
Aemicus
And meet the infamous

And meet the infamous Asukalan. Beware making any mistakes near him, he can sniff out an overused idea or thread necro from 6 forums away. He will rage even harder than I do, and troll even the most innocent noobie.

He's pretty [rusting] awesome.

Schattentag's picture
Schattentag
trudat

What Aemicus said about Asukalan is quite right. Take care.

Aemicus's picture
Aemicus
*near, no typo here. It would suck if he read this subject line

This isn't an awkwardly conspicuous post that maybe got deleted because it held incriminating evidence of a mistake in my post warning about making mistakes near you or anything it's a normal happy little post that just wants to survive without anyone raging at it not that I'm naming anyone in specific or anything it's just that someone came who might not be too kind if they found a typo that may or may not exist hopefully this text wall is long enough that he simply reads the last sentence.

Just move on, Asukalan.

Luguiru's picture
Luguiru
Beware

Beware the Asukalan, my son!
The posts that flame, the responses that devastate!

No, I will not do the rest of the poem. No, this thread is nowhere near its original purpose. Yes, I am reading your mind; stop thinking about that, you disgusting punk.

Schattentag's picture
Schattentag
Hm?

Luguiru, any idea what Aemicus is talking about?

Aemicus's picture
Aemicus
*Whistles casually* no idea

*Whistles casually* no idea what you mean. I'm just standing here... just standing.

Luguiru's picture
Luguiru
To ho ho
Serell's picture
Serell
I made some waffles.

Would anyone care for some?
I got many flavors.

Mk-Vl's picture
Mk-Vl
Lol

I remember the first time I saw his name and read it too fast and thought it said "alaska land".

Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
Lol Asukalan.

@Aemicus
"6 forums away"
It's 8 forums, if not more. He knows what's happening here even when he's in General Discussion.

I should totally make an introduction thread for all the regular Suggestions forum goers.

Aemicus's picture
Aemicus
@Hexyle

Make sure you mention how calm and reasonable I am.

Aotr's picture
Aotr
@Asukalan

you really won't find aotr much on the interwebs ,i've only used that name in dragonfable 2 times about 5 years ago , you're find hi9580 more often as i use it for everything (aq,aqw,minecraft,mq,df,youtube,all forums,picture hosting,miniclip and about 20 other things). i would have used it for spiral knights as well but it won't let me

Serell's picture
Serell
:O

May i be in your introduction thread? :3

Myg-Mog's picture
Myg-Mog
Introducing...

..that seldomnly recognized person!

There should be an introduction thread, Aemicus makes some PRETTY nice ones :P

Also, you said 'he' a few times for a few not 'he's. Or maybe they just like pigtails, I dunno.

Isisdelltion's picture
Isisdelltion
Oh, well this seems fun ;D

Suppers, I'm Isis...and I'm a guy...don't mind the name...yeah. I just make a half decent story in the Vault, write up some stuff for the 'Gades, and come down here or up to the General Discussion every once in a while.

I'm going to add to Psycho's introduction that he is the maker of a tasty Fan-Fic. But seerusly man, me and Tev were seerusing the whole time we were doing OCH. Seerusly. :D

You may find me in the Treasure Vault, becoming bored and coming back here.

/wave

Aemicus's picture
Aemicus
Why the [scrap] would he edit

Why the [scrap] would he edit the op...

Luguiru's picture
Luguiru
Why, why, miss American pie

Cowards hide their weakness.

Schattentag's picture
Schattentag
Manalicious~

Manalicious knights flaunt their manaliciousness. Sorry for the unrelated note, but I felt the need to flaunt my manaliciousness. Carry on, carry on...

If anyone still cares, the OP contained something like this:

I think it would be super duper awesome and cool if...
1) There were crown and mist energy amplifiers
2) We could send items/crowns/energy via mail
3) Towns were closer together
4) There were weapons that gave buffs to party members

Aotr's picture
Aotr
its complete off topic now

thats just awesome