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Wed, 05/09/2012 - 11:41
#51
Cryoworld's picture
Cryoworld
Huh, why the nerf to Royal

Huh, why the nerf to Royal Jelly? I always thought the payout from it was a decent one, since its already significantly less than it once was (and that was a very, very nice chunk of change you could get oh so long ago). Anyone have an idea how it pays out now?

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 11:42
#52
Iron-Volvametal's picture
Iron-Volvametal
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Oh, yeah, forgot about the RJP Crown Nerf...

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Wed, 05/09/2012 - 11:43
#53
Rangerwillx's picture
Rangerwillx
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Yeah..why the rjp nerf? I guess FSC is in for even more farmers now..the few that still farmed RJP to FSC should be gone now.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 11:45
#54
Batabii's picture
Batabii
Who farms RJ? I thought

Who farms RJ? I thought everyone went Vana as soon as they got tier 3.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 11:46
#55
Tersakaff's picture
Tersakaff
Poor RJP :( I hope it won't

Poor RJP :(
I hope it won't give negative "profit" now.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 11:46
#56
Malucao
I would like to see a patch

I would like to see a patch with bold things as new bosses, but a HARD boss and funny, it sure would attract new players and renew the desire to play the current players, more than puppy adoption.

New missions prestige, all already tired of having to do the same missions every week, I'm sorry if I'm being rude.

I see that the game is evolving on the issue of history, but there might be delving more missions in the disappearance of Alphe Squad.Por example:
Mission: Traces of a Battle
Objective: To investigate the area, seeking information about the Alpha squad ....

Or taken together with Feron missions and other Knights (NPC'ss)

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 11:47
#57
Rangerwillx's picture
Rangerwillx
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And Retrodes had a helluva lot of health before now, it was like twice as much as scuttlebots, and it shouldn't be that way.
They should have more health the Scuttles, but not twice as much.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 11:47
#58
Iron-Volvametal's picture
Iron-Volvametal
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"Who farms RJ? I thought everyone went Vana as soon as they got tier 3."

I do.

Because I still want to use a Skelly Suit instead of my Volcanic Demo Suit.

Why?

Because that's why.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 11:48
#59
Cryoworld's picture
Cryoworld
@Batabii I do whenever I've

@Batabii

I do whenever I've got a 2*-3* piece of equipment to heat up, or when a new Recruit needs help with RJ. Sometimes I do it just to help random pugs.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 11:48
#60
Rangerwillx's picture
Rangerwillx
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Brofist, Iron!

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 11:49
#61
Jaroche's picture
Jaroche
@Batabii

People who make money of Sealed swords.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 11:50
#62
Iron-Volvametal's picture
Iron-Volvametal
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http://pichars.org/store/1696_original_9eXGz.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 11:50
#63
Gibberishly's picture
Gibberishly
I am hoping the nerf to RJP

I am hoping the nerf to RJP puts the crown payout inline with IMF, which would be a good thing. Let players choose between the two T2 bosses without a major difference in payouts. More variety = less boredom.

Now we just need a new T3 boss with payouts similar to FSC and/or a buff to Crimson Hammer payouts.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 11:51
#64
Rangerwillx's picture
Rangerwillx
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Not found. Here.
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/001/274/brofistcover.jpg

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 11:52
#65
Iron-Volvametal's picture
Iron-Volvametal
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I hate School Computers.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 11:53
#66
Alice-In-Pyroland's picture
Alice-In-Pyroland
Who farms RJ? I thought

Who farms RJ? I thought everyone went Vana as soon as they got tier 3.

Tier 2 players? Seems like the question answers itself lol

100 mist is three Soverign Slime runs, so as long as those three runs still get you at least 7kcr t2 players the payout nerf isn't terrible. It slows down the progression of t2 players whom don't have elevator passes (And I'm certain it was probably done precisely to encourage purchasing them) but as long as the nerf isn't too substantial it doesn't really bother me.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 11:53
#67
Iron-Volvametal's picture
Iron-Volvametal
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I can't wait to see the Robo Wreckers. :D

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 12:04
#68
Aumir's picture
Aumir
+1 Asukalan

Dunno why people are backlashing so much Asukalan's opinion, it is just an opinion. And I actually agree with him/her. This game is getting way too easier... I of course, as a "no-swords-mostly" person like that I get more damage with my main weapons, but still... for what? We don't have any new levels. We don't have anything to put that into use. Just more FSC.

In fact, why nerf even more RJP crown payout? Is this a way to "lengthen" the player experience? A way to make "more diverse" that new player experience? Why not make the ENDGAME experience a bit more interesting, and make it also avaiable to get without paywalls?

Right now, what we have is a graphic with X being "variety and easy to get content" and Y "rewards": New players may feel that "all those levels" that they can play anytime, with a similar payout, may reward them or promise of an even more awesome endgame experience... to finally get to paywalls and infinite FSC grinding, because that is the ONLY PvE content that isn't behind that.

Which is called "a recruiting trap". This game gets the work done in getting new players, but how about keeping them?

And yeah, I know that recent updates have shown what it is the number 1 preference: being able to get new players, as new MMOs are coming, and they need the word out... but will they release content to keep them, the new players AND the starting fanbase in time?

Also, while I read that testing server forum info, I thought that new boss was going to be a Swarm related entity. Guess it is a Gremlin, which may directly tie it with Crimson Order Expansion Mission? To paid content maybe? Woo... ._. Any new info on that exchange feature that non-Steam players have been waiting for, like two months?

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 12:11
#69
Tenkii's picture
Tenkii
"Battle Arena-style mission levels"

Quick question:
Battle Arena-style mission levels... just the mission stages?
I'd love to see arenas in the clockworks get some love like the danger rooms did. Since I was gone from Aug-Jan, I've started playing clockworks and some of the new danger rooms are pretty fun.

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I for one am pretty excited for the gun damage boosts. I got my brother to start playing again and he's mainly a gunner, so it'll be a more-than-welcome change. I just made the chaos set, so the alchemer+bomb business is going to be really entertaining with the charge boosts :D

I'm actually feeling the retrode nerf. They look like they're brittle but end up tanking 1-2 more hits than they look like they should.

I'm a little on the fence with the Royal Jelly payout balance. Maybe it's just the mission (it's one depth lower than the gate version). But it might also push people away from grinding that. I'd be happy to see (get@me) Vanaduke payout decreased as well IF the clockworks levels get an increase. FSC and its stages are unique and cool, but I do miss the Arcade. And seeing weapons other than elemental and piercing weapons.

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Aumir:
And yeah, I know that recent updates have shown what it is the number 1 preference: being able to get new players, as new MMOs are coming, and they need the word out... but will they release content to keep them, the new players AND the starting fanbase in time?

They released the t2 Roarmulus Twins update just a month after releasing the t1 Snarbolax update.

I view the missions patch and related content as a 2012 version of last year's Snarbolax.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 12:08
#70
Cobalt's picture
Cobalt
I didn't see anything wrong

I didn't see anything wrong with RJP's current payout right now.

It kinda fits in the middle there of all the boss strata's.

Snarby = ~1.8k

Jelly = ~2.1k

Twins = ~2.2k

Vanny = ~6.9k

(All these are based off being solo)
((Then again I could be horribly off, and wrong))
(((As usual)))

Poor RJP

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 12:12
#71
Rommil's picture
Rommil
Good deal

Buff to guns and bombs, well-needed and about time. Hopefully this is a buff with more "balancing" to come within those specific classes.

Not a fan of nerfing heat and crowns from jelly. At least leave the heat alone :(
Not like I grind jelly nemore, but still.....

I'll subscribe to the idea that they are balancing t1 gear for the sake of starting at the beginning and working their way through it, same with rescue camp I suppose :/

I give it a solid C letter grade. Some good, some bad, nothing game-breaking nor game-ruining, maybe new content? Not entirely sure with those lines about mission arenas. But a C letter grade is far better than the previous patches.

Good work on bringing guns up--and boosting their charge attacks, AP + Sent should get a knock back to their birds on charge ( better more consistent knock back), And thanks for the bomb buff.

Now we need shields that give guns and bombs a damage bonus too.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 12:13
#72
Rangerwillx's picture
Rangerwillx
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Snarby 1.8K.
Jelly 2.7K.
Twins 2.05K.
Vanaduke 7.5K.

Bit off there Cobalt :P

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 12:14
#73
Cobalt's picture
Cobalt
Toooollllllldddddddddddd

Toooollllllldddddddddddd yyyooooouuuuuu.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 12:15
#74
Kitty-Softpaws's picture
Kitty-Softpaws
Because with the

Because with the accompaniament of voices asking for new content for existing players, OOO makes a new content accesible only to new players, leaving current players with nothing. Its arrogant slap in face.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSvxd9o3Xeg&feature=BFa&list=FL81lgjI28la...

Look at the comments I got from the community. Most of the forumers already know that I'm never serious of the posts that I make, via you knew me in-game you'd know it too & I do try to make it sound as silly & sarcastic as possible. Do you really think players like this should be heard of what they think should be added to the game? Players only thinking of themselves? Do you know why I troll the forums? I have to troll, it is my duty.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 12:18
#75
Alice-In-Pyroland's picture
Alice-In-Pyroland
Cobalt, Ranger, I don't know

Cobalt, Ranger, I don't know what you're doing in RJP, but I nearly always get about 3k per run. Remember killing Lichens individually is more profitable than letting them combine.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 12:19
#76
Rangerwillx's picture
Rangerwillx
@Echoez

No need for that advice anymore..I won't be doing it that much anymore.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 12:29
#77
Rangerwillx's picture
Rangerwillx
How do you have no subject? I'll send 200 cr to who tells..

And there goes ALL the damage numbers for bombs and guns..LOL!

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 12:30
#78
Canine-Vladmir's picture
Canine-Vladmir
so...

so if i join vanaduke FSC run right now, will it be pitch dark?

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 12:34
#79
Sniperjoe's picture
Sniperjoe
@Rangerwillx

*jaw drops*

*crumples up draft for update to gun tables on wiki, throws in trash*

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 12:35
#80
Supermallow's picture
Supermallow
The patch is alright, but why

The patch is alright, but why the nerf on RJP? There's....no need for it.

I'm alright with it if the levels before are good, like arenas, but Jelly gates used to pay even more than what it did. Especially since missions are completely making token items useless, there should be more payouts for actually completing the whole gate.

Love the bombs and guns upgrade. But the RJP nerf is really a poor decision, in my opinion at least.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 12:38
#81
Daarke's picture
Daarke
WAHHH!!!

Still can't connect with server! D= 30 minutes is a long time! *dies* X.X

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 12:42
#82
Canine-Vladmir's picture
Canine-Vladmir
/agree Daarke

Yes! Canine-Vladmir agrees with Daarke.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 12:44
#83
Batabii's picture
Batabii
"Remember killing Lichens

"Remember killing Lichens individually is more profitable than letting them combine."

What! Since when?

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 12:46
#84
Dziurka
Polish?

Let me know if you guys want a Polish translation. I have some professional background right here :)

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 12:49
#85
Exerpa's picture
Exerpa
http://forums.spiralknights.c

http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/53117#comment-370672

gonna have to wait a bit longer

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 12:54
#86
Aphrodite's picture
Aphrodite
Community Manager
Patching.....

*juggles snipes as entertainment while you wait*

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 12:56
#87
Alice-In-Pyroland's picture
Alice-In-Pyroland
So another ten minutes or so,

So another ten minutes or so, assuming things go as planned (They won't).

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 12:56
#88
Daarke's picture
Daarke
=D

*watches with great interest*

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 13:03
#89
Asukalan's picture
Asukalan
Oh wow, great, so because of

Oh wow, great, so because of some silly Rescue champ remake, that will give some more flavour to the mighty 20 minutes of adventures of newbs before they reach haven, all current players, cant log in for additional half of hour or even more

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 13:04
#90
Rangerwillx's picture
Rangerwillx
@Daarke/OP

And here comes the Clown of spiral knights.
"So things are getting Daarker! Haha!"
*silence*

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 13:11
#91
Daarke's picture
Daarke
____

....

*crickets chirp*

o_o

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 13:11
#92
Artistbma's picture
Artistbma
Having fun, posting on stuff like usual.

Darnit....I've been trying to log on for the past 10 min...

Another 30 minutes!??!!

I'm sorry for all those players who don't go on forums...wondering why they can't get on.

Sad.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 13:12
#93
Malucao
With this patch we can kill

With this patch we can kill Vana in less than one minute I think.
Maybe Callahan kill trojans with a charge attack ...
I am impatient to test it.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 13:13
#94
Waddap
In league of legends you

In league of legends you atleast get an ip boost or some nice riot points if there is trouble with the login etc and players can't play.

Here? Nothing.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 13:14
#95
Kraanx's picture
Kraanx
damnit... the hell is gonna

damnit... the hell is gonna happen to shadow lairs?
well be figting in pitch black?
spam ALL the polaris! xD

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 13:14
#96
Leafblader's picture
Leafblader
/whatches Aphrodite

/stares
I'm watching Nyan Cat 100 HOURS right now to pass the time.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 13:16
#97
Leafblader's picture
Leafblader
/whatches Aphrodite

/stares
I'm watching Nyan Cat 100 HOURS right now to pass the time.
EDIT: sorry for double post.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 13:15
#98
Tersakaff's picture
Tersakaff
:( /me wants to see the new

:(
/me wants to see the new things

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 13:16
#99
Kraanx's picture
Kraanx
...damnit why is this taking

...damnit why is this taking so long....
did the server pop out two legs and run away or something?

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 13:16
#100
Batabii's picture
Batabii
Well we should at least get

Well we should at least get half price elevators

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