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Sat, 08/11/2012 - 01:14
#101
Sweet-Hope's picture
Sweet-Hope
There something i would start

There something i would start asking myself, how will be this promo been taken if:

1 random costume piece + X amount of box per energy package price.

would be so different the way that people look at this promo?.

Because my view point: just buying a lot of boxes to get a chance for a costume its really.. well seems bit greedy and a way to milk the player wallet of course nobody its forcing you to buy the package but cmon, promos with costume (Costumes <<) always have the "chance to get a color or a piece of your costume for price of certain energy package price" and we dont have Costumes in a box with the odds being mixed with the odds to get a accesories. so yeah this time while i really like to buy promos because the items and even if this it just a recolor i would buy it... if OOO wont put the costumes on the boxes, so instead to try my luck i better choose not, its really a way to milk the player to get a low chances for the costumes and get always a ticket.. oh well but thats my opinion.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 01:28
#102
Virtuewis's picture
Virtuewis
@ Sweet-Hope

I get what you are saying here, and it isn't too far from what many of the other posters are saying. The problem is this: there is no meaningful complaint against a promo that is optional and does not effect game balance. If OOO were to obscure the truth somehow with false advertising or deception, then you'd have a case against them. You also might have a case if they were to release a game-breaking overpowered item for money.

If McDonalds came out with a really tasty, high-quality menu item, but it costs WAY more than their average menu item (say it costs 100 U.S. dollars) would you complain about it? Would you threaten to stop eating McDonalds (if you haven't already by now tee hee)? Or would you simply just not ever order it? Is it that you are mad that someone else might order it? Well, if that's the case, you'll just have to deal with it. That is life. That is also the reason that I think the rage at this promo is silly. It just doesn't make any sense UNLESS you are just a jealous person. And if one doesn't like the "buggar/vomit/mold green" colors of the new costumes and accessories, what is there to be jealous of?

The original post was about how OOO is somehow prioritizing cosmetic promos OVER new content. That is ridiculous in the first place considering we've had 2 new prestige danger missions released since the last promo... There is no ground to stand on when making that original claim.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 01:37
#103
Dorael's picture
Dorael
@Virtuewis

You forgot the truly hilarious part. Some people are accusing Three Rings of prioritizing cosmetic promos over new content while also saying that promos require no work whatsoever. Yeah, Three Rings should be directing all their no work required focus to other things.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 01:42
#104
Sweet-Hope's picture
Sweet-Hope
I know im not saying anything

I know im not saying anything different that other poster. but i keep my question:

Would be different the rage if : recolor armors will come as sure thing but every purchase but would be random piece + box?

Because most of this rage on this promo its made from the Bomb update. i know its optional and all i wouldnt mind to have one of the fur set just for my likes to collect every wolver variant armor. but since i know my "odds" to get them i just simple will pass this promo as i did with the anniversary one :/ but that was my view point.

but since the box thingy have odds of the costumes and you only will get them from them. thats why i ask if would be so different with: 1 random costume piece + 1 box. (or the amount of boxes you get from the energy package you bought).

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 01:45
#105
Virtuewis's picture
Virtuewis
@ Dorael

I wouldn't know the first thing about how hard it is to make a promo, but I can imagine that it is very difficult to make a game that is as addictive and fun as this one. I am not a super expert leetsauce player, so my contributions in these forums are not that helpful when it comes to game strategy or gear choice. My strategy is just: have fun out there! lol But, I can contribute to the community by helping them realize what an empirically invalid argument looks like when it happens. That way they can tweak it so that it is at least valid, if not totally agreeable to everyone. :D

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 01:50
#106
Virtuewis's picture
Virtuewis
@ Sweet-Hope

I understand your frustration, but again: I will insist that these boxes are optional. In what way is it that you cannot enjoy the game without their contents? Also, the CE is what costs the money. When you buy the promo pack, you are paying for CE (as Dukeplatypus has eloquently stated somewhere around here). The promo box is a shiny "buy it now" incentive, nothing more. Also, the box is not the only way to receive the item. It will be available for trade and on the auction house.

Patience is a virtue! Just wait for it if you need it that bad. If they included one armor AND one accessory in every promo pack, these items will not retain any value, and thus negate the incentive of the "buy it now" effect of a promo.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:36
#107
Grandtheftgnome's picture
Grandtheftgnome
@Virtuewis

With the Promo items popping up in future promos and featured auctions. There IS no incentive to buy it now. Especially when there's only a 40% chance now (vomit color doesn't help either), CE used to drop by 1000- 1500 cr, now it drops by maybe 400. This is kinda unrelated, but wouldn't this mean less people are buying the promos? I don't see how either party benefits from the box format.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:44
#108
Dorael's picture
Dorael
@Grandtheftgnome

I wouldn't say there is no incentive. And maybe some people like vomit color. A lot of things are subjective and there are probably enough people playing the game for there to be people out there that like it. This might not be the most popular promotion given the general response and the impact on the CE trade but it is having some impact, which is better than nothing.

Regarding promos versus featured auctions in general, one is much more limited than the other. With featured auctions you're competing against other bidders and the number of them that come out per auction/couple of days is limited. With promos, it's not. The more you roll the die the more that can come out of it. If everyone that wanted one didn't buy into a promo then there would be a lot of demand when it came featured auction time.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 10:55
#109
Grandtheftgnome's picture
Grandtheftgnome
incentive

I suppose less incentive was a better word. And i didn't mean entirely for people wanting the accessories, there are plenty of people who buy the promos specifically to invest in a rare item, and when that rare item randomly shows up in the AH (i'm talking about you sprinkle aura) months later, its value dies, making people on that side of the spectrum less inclined to buy the promo.

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