If capital letters and commas are offensive, then I apologize, but I just simply can't understand why you'd think that. Don't let your own premonitions and bias mess with the way you perceive other people.

Do you realize how abrasively condescending this statement is? I'm hoping it's just an honest mistake, something that happens because no one's ever called you out on such behavior before. (This is, of course, ignoring the strawman you've constructed.)

Typin' as you speak is no excuse to allow grammar to collapse. Anyone who's familiar with my posts should know that I type in my local slang/dialect and write words out the way I pronounce them (despite trying to avoid doing so for the most part), but I still use grammar and paragraphs. To not do so is sheer laziness, and the consideration that someone actually talks in the same manner as a grammar-free wall of text only brings ludicrous images to mind.

Consider a simple example; commas are breaks in your sentence. Very short breaks that separate and structure your sentence. Ditchin' commas from your typing and implying that you speak like that would suggest that you speak at a perpetual speed without ever slowing, speeding up or taking any kind of break. It'd sound very monotonous and hard to listen to.

Try it. Seriously, just read over such a post and say it out aloud. Notice whether or not you naturally add in those "commas" or how annoying you find yourself to sound by omitting your verbal grammar.

And that's not even to mention the etiquette to others. It makes people just want to skim/ignore such posts when they find themselves irritated by posts like that. A bit of lingual prowess keeps people willing to read what you have to say, and failing to do so out of laziness is pretty bad ethic. You most certainly don't speak verbally to people like that, so why should we have to listen to you typin' like that?

Nowadays I'm getting kicked so much, usually simply because I don't own 'optimal' (aka mainstream) gear. I have been kicked for:
Owning volcanic pepperbox
Using neutraliser charge attacks in the lobby
Not wanting to go kill the slags in the wheel puzzle in the last level of FSC. (By a 'friend')
Forgetting to say hello.
Asking for a health pill.
Getting irritated that somebody else took the health pill and vitapod that I used mist energy to unlock.
Reviving someone with health too often.
Asking someone to be a bit more careful. (After their 5 death in 10 minutes).
Not understanding someone's text speak.

In summary, I think using hipster gear really pisses alot of people off (especially when I manage to do something better than them).
It's really turning me off this game.

Another weirdo?

Add me, too. We can be abnormal together and have lovely tea parties, but instead of tea we can drink the blood of our enemi- I mean, some lovely crimson colored liquids that come from some kind of plant and is not blood at all whatsoever. Yes, quite, pinkies in the air with curly mustaches and all that.

"Whaaaa-? I get pissed off when people ce rev..."

Yeah, that got me too. I hate it when people ce revive for no reason, ESPECIALLY while other members are still alive.

Other times it's like: /party wipe "Damn. Ok guys, sit tight for a sec, Imma call for hel-" *BOOM!* "...Nvm then."

"But I say again: run your own parties."

Some people like to try and enjoy the social aspect of Clockworking, although that aspect has almost disappeared due to the complete takeover of QQing and noob-whining in chat of 98% of random parties.

Then we have the classic idiots who just do whatever they feel like. Funny story.

I was invited by a friend to FSC, and I asked if he needed help. He said yes. I joined, and he was at the final lift to Vana. After my 'wat' face, he said he needed help for the boss, considering the only pro was the other guy in his party; the others had left already.

Player 2 wasn't too happy about dragging what would seem like another incompetent, and expressed his irritation. While I tried to chill him out, said friend invited ANOTHER friend to the party. Player 3 was only 2*, and freaked when he saw he was in FSC.

What's worse is that while I was trying to chill Player 2, he then picked up the vita pod and burned the healthcaps on the floor to refill his HP.

After yelling at Player 3, I calmly told Player 2...

Player 2 insta-booted us all.

Are you guys just venting, and then correcting each others' sentences?

Also, is it even possible to dictate another person's typing over the Internet?

Also, is it even possible to dictate how should a person play the game over the Internet?

Also, is it even possible to dictate how should a party leader manage his/her own party over the Intenet via venting through this thread?

Also, is it even possible to meet that many idiots in a randomized four-player party?

Cuz that's what I see this moment.

Also, just to put oil on a warm, toasty campfire:

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7HIS dis thrd so brng lke omg gtg somewhere elsies totes rte?

I enjoy trolling beggars.

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"The bad players: Elitist, greedy, selfish, and inconsiderate."

When I first saw this thread, I took your word for it. I mean, I'm also a bit elitist at times. |^|

"People seem to have lost all understanding of basic English; some of the foreign players have better English than the native English speakers in this game. I get cryptic messages from people, which usually look something like this: 'huy dud waht cr do u gots? i borro 3 ce plz.' "

And then you guys talk about |^|. Huh. Elitist much? -.- I'm not trying to disprove or attack anything, but if it's that stuff you're worried about, do the alternatives and solutions that we gave you, and be done with it altogether. (It saves a lot of time and frustration) I kinda want this thread to die now, since we already have solutions to these little problems. *looks at the title* NVA MIND KEEP DOING WHAT YOU DO GR8 JOBS GUYS! XD

Hopefully I didn't annoy you did I? I mean i asked a bunch of random questions on plate mail.

First, I've seen much less, begging, random friend and guild requests recently.

As for the children, I am quite impressed with many of them. I do find them to be sweet, well mannered players who are a joy to play and socialize with. Many of them are very intelligent with wonderful communication skills. Some are very talented individuals. They can be diplomatic with great social and leadership skills. They are very respectable people. Quite a few of them have surprised me with their age. During my earliest contact with them I was left with the feeling that I was interacting with an adult. I don't think you should slight children here in general. Many are exceptionally great people and don't deserve that.

There are many adults here who act like children and use bad grammar or shock people with what is generally thought of as bad behavior in having fun and playing their game.

The energy leeches on runs, just ignore them. They'll go away when the elevator goes down. If they're leading the party, tell them yes to get them on the elevator and just don't do it. Problem solved.

Once I joined Sovereign Slime and this guy Ranku was like: " f off" and I was like wat did I do? So he kicked and I asked im via pm and hes like f off bich. and im like wat?! so i asked him and he made an /afk response like this: "FUK OFF" Some people are really wired.

Don't forget about some people who play Lockdown. As much as I helped people win in Lockdown by paying attention to captures and defends, I would say "Yay, most captures." and someone would say "SO? YOU SUCK, YOU GOT LOW DAMAGE, QUIT LOCKDOWN NOOB". Not exactly like that but somewhere around the lines of that. Now, I hate SOME Lockdown players because they see everyone as a prick who will just treat Lockdown as a brawl and go and hit everyone. They don't think anyone is active and actually does good with captures and defends in Lockdown. That exactly is why I hate Lockdown. When I'm going to capture the first point below our Locker Room when the game starts, the other plays go around the map and look for people to kill. Now, I said "You know what, forget capturing. I'm just going to fight like everyone else does apparently since that's what Lockdown is about." So people keep saying "CAP!" and I would say "What the? You're first going say all of these things about damage like captures don't matter and now you're telling people to capture?." Which is why I hate Lockdown guilds because if you join a Lockdown guild they'll think you're one of the people who just aim for damage because the majority of people in Lockdown guilds are like that and they don't like people who do active things like capturing and defending. Now, people need to learn that Lockdown is not a brawl. If it were to be Super Brawl, you'd be good at it but you're not really since you just go for damage. Some people only go for damage, so people try doing all three activities which is what Lockdown really should be like.

I was kicked in Tier 1 run for fighting while the party leader was AFK but as soon as I got kicked, the party leader sent me a friend request and re-invited me and I was like "What the?"

So I called him a bi-polar freak and he sent me a friend request again saying "plz, im sorry".

Also, I got kicked on a Roarmulus Twins run because this guy kept flipping a switch so this "dead" guy could walk over the lighting pads and I said "He's defeated, do you not have eyes?" and then guess what... the party leader said "GUESS WHAT TIME IT IS! IT'S KICKING TIME! >:)" *kick*.

Sometimes these people are hilarious since they don't have any legitimate information to back up their excuses to be immature so it's my turn because I can think of plenty legitimate replies to these people.

I one time got people mad at me for saying that a Royal Jelly run was easy. I said that and they were like "show off, if its so easy then you solo it while we just kill ourselves". I was kicking butt while I was soloing but I ended up getting a typekill. So I left and replied to one of them saying: "Quit being so ignorant, I keep telling you that I thought one little swarm of monsters was easy and now you're crying like a baby calling me a show off just because I think something is easy. Heck, that's like saying "This run is hard." but someone else says that "THIS NOOB THINKS THAT THIS RUN IS HARD, KICK HIM BECAUSE HE'S SO WEAK!" It's nothing to get all serious over, we just simply killed a swarm and I thought that it was easy". So to get him off of my back I said that "It was only a joke." So then he says "if et was a jok why didnt you jus say so" then I said "Because, I didn't know that you and your friend were arrogant babies that cannot handle a simple opinion that doesn't affect you like "This is easy." So, he stopped replying and that guy was on my friends list but I removed him.

That's why I most of the times I start my own party (like it's been suggested several times already). That way I can invite someone from my friend list or wait for the party to fill with random people, and I don't get kicked for wanting to solo the top right and rocket puppy rooms, or for wanting to go through the right path on FSC :3

Do feel free to add me in-game though! (In-game name is Arilys btw :p) Just write something in the friend request because I usually ignore requests with no message whatsoever.

Larosa: Freknight revive me
......
Freknight help
Freknight needs help!

O_O not to put anyone to shame but I mean asking for revives or help is one thing i hate. Its common sense if your in a party, someone is bound to revive you. Sorry to tell you this, but for me, you and your buddie and the noob's player-maturity was below average.

Nope, it isn't as bad as they are saying. Everyone keeps exaggerating.

When someone asks me for free cr, I reply

"Do you like window sills?"

They will never come back!

Nope, it isn't as bad as they are saying. Everyone keeps exaggerating.

Honestly, I find this problem to occur almost exclusively by joining PUGs. It simply does not seem to happen (nearly as much) as creating your own PUG and waiting for others to join.
Lar here seems/seemed fond of just joining PUGs and thus was the victim of these personality problems a lot, but most people I know who just start their own parties (even when leaving it open for PUGs) just don't seem to have the problem as often.

I guess these types of people don't like the idea of not being able to kick people, and thus only ever find themselves leading their own party rather than joining others', lest they find themselves on the sore side of a akicking.

I join a random FSC party because playing through the Firestorm Citadel alone is rather boring.

What I mean is that you could simply open your own party and wait for randoms to joins you, instead. It would result in the same thing but without leaving the kicking power to someone you're raging about. It would also (seemingly) reduce the odds of even seeing such people, and even if you do, you have the power to deal with them so you can continue your run in peace with the randoms who aren't infuriating you.

Maybe I just attract these kinds of players, but I often find it hard not to run into anyone like this during a play session.

Maybe you are just unlucky. Maybe not; I couldn't say really. I don't tend to join randoms because when I do FSC I do them as a speedrun, and prefer partners that I can coordinate with and use a set runthrough strategy; PUGs are simply not conductive to speedruns.

Wait, I ran into you once this weekend, with Wodan, I think.
But yeah, just reside in non-pub FSC and Clockworks T3 (Party finder's your friend) and you should be rather liberated from jerkwad territory. I'll take a good long look at this thread later when I have the time, but if you need some schmuck who isn't a jerk on runs, feel free to add Artifice.

Isciira. Autogun is a good choice. Just so you know, tons of people use them. It's pretty standard for someone to have one I'd say.

When it comes to the crystal thing, I think the high tier guy was going maximum overreact. Yes, players receive each others minerals, and some people doesn't know this before they're deep in the game, but really, they're not worth that much... They're hardly worth anything at all alone, but they stack up after you've done many runs and can end up cashing out a bit, but it's really nothing to get fired up over if someone doesn't take one with them.

Also, congrats on your first post!

I believe many "good" players from the good old days got wiped out by lack of contents in this game. I still remember back in Steam launch last year, it was like the golden age of SK. It attracts people from different background and SK was a fun place to meet different people.

Then the lack of content meteo struck us, people left and guilds collapsing left and right. The recent GH update could lead to a second golden age. But do we really have to pay 400k a week for a fully upgraded GH? In my guild we had this little quarrel over where the upkeep funding sources should come from (centralized sources from 1-2 individuals or a blanket "tax" onto everyone). I can see no problem with big guilds. But for smaller guilds, it's either forcing us to collapse our GH to smaller magnitude (and thus skipping some useful features like guild training hall), or forcing us into CR farmers (something the mature membership of our guild advocates against because they have a day time job).

So Devs, are you going to revise that upkeep cost? Please don't just look at the amount of CR in circulation on the server. Look at the social aspect and demography of the gamer base also, and do something more sensible.