If capital letters and commas are offensive, then I apologize, but I just simply can't understand why you'd think that. Don't let your own premonitions and bias mess with the way you perceive other people.
Do you realize how abrasively condescending this statement is? I'm hoping it's just an honest mistake, something that happens because no one's ever called you out on such behavior before. (This is, of course, ignoring the strawman you've constructed.)
"Do you realize how abrasively condescending this statement is?"
Um...no? And I'm not terrible at judging text-tones. The first statement is honest: 'I'm sorry, what, but I don't get it.' The second is advisory.
Typin' as you speak is no excuse to allow grammar to collapse. Anyone who's familiar with my posts should know that I type in my local slang/dialect and write words out the way I pronounce them (despite trying to avoid doing so for the most part), but I still use grammar and paragraphs. To not do so is sheer laziness, and the consideration that someone actually talks in the same manner as a grammar-free wall of text only brings ludicrous images to mind.
Consider a simple example; commas are breaks in your sentence. Very short breaks that separate and structure your sentence. Ditchin' commas from your typing and implying that you speak like that would suggest that you speak at a perpetual speed without ever slowing, speeding up or taking any kind of break. It'd sound very monotonous and hard to listen to.
Try it. Seriously, just read over such a post and say it out aloud. Notice whether or not you naturally add in those "commas" or how annoying you find yourself to sound by omitting your verbal grammar.
And that's not even to mention the etiquette to others. It makes people just want to skim/ignore such posts when they find themselves irritated by posts like that. A bit of lingual prowess keeps people willing to read what you have to say, and failing to do so out of laziness is pretty bad ethic. You most certainly don't speak verbally to people like that, so why should we have to listen to you typin' like that?
@Tanonev
After typing all of that to make sure we didn't have any misunderstandings, you got set off on my preceding apologetic sentence.
/me is sad.
But that's not important. (I mean, who cares if Laraso is sad, right?) I'm more concerned with the fact that you took what I was saying as a strawman argument.
/sigh
What you said: "... passive-aggressive players that try to offend me with correct spelling ..."
What I said: "If capital letters and commas are offensive, then I apologize, but I just simply can't understand why you'd think that."
I was talking about the exact thing you had mentioned. That, by its very definition, is not a strawman argument.
EDIT: Whoops! Your lack of an avatar tricked me into thinking you were the same person as Stevejonesone. I sincerely apologize! It doesn't make what I said any less relevant, though.
@Forum-Brady
Exactly. Even I type my local slang/dialect with correct punctuation; (Kinda' / sorta' / coulda')
Nowadays I'm getting kicked so much, usually simply because I don't own 'optimal' (aka mainstream) gear. I have been kicked for:
Owning volcanic pepperbox
Using neutraliser charge attacks in the lobby
Not wanting to go kill the slags in the wheel puzzle in the last level of FSC. (By a 'friend')
Forgetting to say hello.
Asking for a health pill.
Getting irritated that somebody else took the health pill and vitapod that I used mist energy to unlock.
Reviving someone with health too often.
Asking someone to be a bit more careful. (After their 5 death in 10 minutes).
Not understanding someone's text speak.
In summary, I think using hipster gear really pisses alot of people off (especially when I manage to do something better than them).
It's really turning me off this game.
Eth, you can add me too if you want. The crew I hang with doesn't judge by gear or whatnot, although some may ask occasionally what you're wearing and question it's suitability for the map, but they're not going to whine about it.
IGN is my Forum name.
Another weirdo?
Add me, too. We can be abnormal together and have lovely tea parties, but instead of tea we can drink the blood of our enemi- I mean, some lovely crimson colored liquids that come from some kind of plant and is not blood at all whatsoever. Yes, quite, pinkies in the air with curly mustaches and all that.
Reviving someone with health too often.
Whaaaa-? I get pissed off when people ce rev...
But I say again: run your own parties. Instant solution to this problem and gives you the ability to pleasant remove someone who....complains that you...don't ce rev?
Srsly, I'm lost with that one...
"Whaaaa-? I get pissed off when people ce rev..."
Yeah, that got me too. I hate it when people ce revive for no reason, ESPECIALLY while other members are still alive.
Other times it's like: /party wipe "Damn. Ok guys, sit tight for a sec, Imma call for hel-" *BOOM!* "...Nvm then."
"But I say again: run your own parties."
Some people like to try and enjoy the social aspect of Clockworking, although that aspect has almost disappeared due to the complete takeover of QQing and noob-whining in chat of 98% of random parties.
Then we have the classic idiots who just do whatever they feel like. Funny story.
I was invited by a friend to FSC, and I asked if he needed help. He said yes. I joined, and he was at the final lift to Vana. After my 'wat' face, he said he needed help for the boss, considering the only pro was the other guy in his party; the others had left already.
Player 2 wasn't too happy about dragging what would seem like another incompetent, and expressed his irritation. While I tried to chill him out, said friend invited ANOTHER friend to the party. Player 3 was only 2*, and freaked when he saw he was in FSC.
What's worse is that while I was trying to chill Player 2, he then picked up the vita pod and burned the healthcaps on the floor to refill his HP.
After yelling at Player 3, I calmly told Player 2...
Player 2 insta-booted us all.
Some people like to try and enjoy the social aspect of Clockworking
I may not have been clear; I wasn't suggesting solo runs. I was simply meaning that instead of joining other PUGs, just open your own PUG. Allow yourself to be the leader rather than subject yourself to the tyranny of people who cnt spl 4 sith, dog~
Seriously; changes nothing in the terms of gameplay, atmosphere or random-meetings, except that you don't have to put up with being kicked because you've heard of grammar or enjoy the game or whatever other arbitrary reason, while giving you the ability to remove (@OPost) people without having to Go Solo or get kicked or otherwise ruin your gaming experience.
Are you guys just venting, and then correcting each others' sentences?
Also, is it even possible to dictate another person's typing over the Internet?
Also, is it even possible to dictate how should a person play the game over the Internet?
Also, is it even possible to dictate how should a party leader manage his/her own party over the Intenet via venting through this thread?
Also, is it even possible to meet that many idiots in a randomized four-player party?
Cuz that's what I see this moment.
Also, just to put oil on a warm, toasty campfire:
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Hah, just ran into two guys having an argument in Haven after crafting on my alt. One dude was berating another 'in dis sorta speak' for pm'ing people randomly because it was rude. The accused after arguing the other should mind his own business switched Havens.
Although the other guy had already left, this guy, decked out in his Vog Cub Coat with Divine Veil with Cross-eyes, BTS and Ghostly Aura somehow felt the need to finish with a 'that's what I thought'.
I commented that 'having the last word while the person you'd be speaking to isn't actually there is an ego indicator.' After about 5 mins, because he was AHing, he demanded to know who I was talking to. As a general response, I said 'Hm?' Then he did the 'Attack' emote and ran into my character.
Because my alt is a girl, I played along with it. I moved aside and said 'Oi, off my face.'
The guy then replied. "ugly anyway."
Lol. Some people...
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Its so hard to type like that above.
The only possible way to type like that is if you're playing on a cellphone. I'm pretty sure no cellphone is within the capabilities of playing SK, so WHAT IN THE WORLD is going on?
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"The bad players: Elitist, greedy, selfish, and inconsiderate."
When I first saw this thread, I took your word for it. I mean, I'm also a bit elitist at times. |^|
"People seem to have lost all understanding of basic English; some of the foreign players have better English than the native English speakers in this game. I get cryptic messages from people, which usually look something like this: 'huy dud waht cr do u gots? i borro 3 ce plz.' "
And then you guys talk about |^|. Huh. Elitist much? -.- I'm not trying to disprove or attack anything, but if it's that stuff you're worried about, do the alternatives and solutions that we gave you, and be done with it altogether. (It saves a lot of time and frustration) I kinda want this thread to die now, since we already have solutions to these little problems. *looks at the title* NVA MIND KEEP DOING WHAT YOU DO GR8 JOBS GUYS! XD
I'm elitist because other people don't spell correctly?
I'm not too sure what you're going on about. It doesn't really matter, because I can just tell you're trying to antagonize me.
Hopefully I didn't annoy you did I? I mean i asked a bunch of random questions on plate mail.
I'll just let you sort it out yourself then, if you have no idea what I'm talking about. (Have fun)
First, I've seen much less, begging, random friend and guild requests recently.
As for the children, I am quite impressed with many of them. I do find them to be sweet, well mannered players who are a joy to play and socialize with. Many of them are very intelligent with wonderful communication skills. Some are very talented individuals. They can be diplomatic with great social and leadership skills. They are very respectable people. Quite a few of them have surprised me with their age. During my earliest contact with them I was left with the feeling that I was interacting with an adult. I don't think you should slight children here in general. Many are exceptionally great people and don't deserve that.
There are many adults here who act like children and use bad grammar or shock people with what is generally thought of as bad behavior in having fun and playing their game.
The energy leeches on runs, just ignore them. They'll go away when the elevator goes down. If they're leading the party, tell them yes to get them on the elevator and just don't do it. Problem solved.
@Kreeara
Not at all. I enjoy answering questions.
@Iamnoone
None of this was directed towards children, it was about the community as a whole.
@Vinnydime
You have quite an attitude. I have no desire or obligation to "sort out" whatever point you're trying to prove.
Once I joined Sovereign Slime and this guy Ranku was like: " f off" and I was like wat did I do? So he kicked and I asked im via pm and hes like f off bich. and im like wat?! so i asked him and he made an /afk response like this: "FUK OFF" Some people are really wired.
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/937009251942657138/ADDEE8C54C54B1A0A...
Fail team, dawg; how'd your whole team manage to get to Last Stand on that room?
Ditch 'em, get a new bro'hood and try again :D
Well, that room wasn't really much of a problem. I had low health because they wouldn't stop begging for me to revive them, so I ended up spending all of my HP on them.
I carried the team through it easily, though.
That wasn't the point of the screenshot, however. If you look in the chat, someone asks how many crowns I have. I reply, "99,999,999,999,999", and they take me seriously and ask if I can lend them 10,000 crowns. They later ask (after I blatantly ignored them) if I can lend them 100,000 crowns.
I understand your problem mate, just ignore and report them, it's also not nice to actually show the guys name (name and shame), just saiyan, so here's what I do, trade them, show all ur best unbound items, then get him to click confirm and quit, if he keeps asking just ignore and report, another tip is not to go to random parties but organise a party with friends, guildies or just go solo, if u see any idiots like him, try to get on their nice side so you won't have to deal with idiocy and begging in the first place, since you like answering questions ill give you one. Would you rather eat your dog or go to jail for 5 years? , it's just out of curiosity (I'm curious, when I was 6 my parents left me at a shopping centre by accident, found a dog, played with him, thought my moms friend went into a church so I followed, it wasn't her, it was a wedding, that is where I met the limo driver who offered to take me home, I remembered my address an accepted, I remember it all...) beware me, I'm cursed
I was not intending to "name and shame" anyone in those screenshots. If I had thought of it earlier, I would have taken the screenshots manually and uploaded them rather than using Steams services.
Not too sure where you were going with the last half of that message though. You ate a dog?
Oh, I was aware what the screenshot was for; I just found myself more shocked by the party pool than the begging c.c...
Don't forget about some people who play Lockdown. As much as I helped people win in Lockdown by paying attention to captures and defends, I would say "Yay, most captures." and someone would say "SO? YOU SUCK, YOU GOT LOW DAMAGE, QUIT LOCKDOWN NOOB". Not exactly like that but somewhere around the lines of that. Now, I hate SOME Lockdown players because they see everyone as a prick who will just treat Lockdown as a brawl and go and hit everyone. They don't think anyone is active and actually does good with captures and defends in Lockdown. That exactly is why I hate Lockdown. When I'm going to capture the first point below our Locker Room when the game starts, the other plays go around the map and look for people to kill. Now, I said "You know what, forget capturing. I'm just going to fight like everyone else does apparently since that's what Lockdown is about." So people keep saying "CAP!" and I would say "What the? You're first going say all of these things about damage like captures don't matter and now you're telling people to capture?." Which is why I hate Lockdown guilds because if you join a Lockdown guild they'll think you're one of the people who just aim for damage because the majority of people in Lockdown guilds are like that and they don't like people who do active things like capturing and defending. Now, people need to learn that Lockdown is not a brawl. If it were to be Super Brawl, you'd be good at it but you're not really since you just go for damage. Some people only go for damage, so people try doing all three activities which is what Lockdown really should be like.
I was kicked in Tier 1 run for fighting while the party leader was AFK but as soon as I got kicked, the party leader sent me a friend request and re-invited me and I was like "What the?"
So I called him a bi-polar freak and he sent me a friend request again saying "plz, im sorry".
Also, I got kicked on a Roarmulus Twins run because this guy kept flipping a switch so this "dead" guy could walk over the lighting pads and I said "He's defeated, do you not have eyes?" and then guess what... the party leader said "GUESS WHAT TIME IT IS! IT'S KICKING TIME! >:)" *kick*.
Sometimes these people are hilarious since they don't have any legitimate information to back up their excuses to be immature so it's my turn because I can think of plenty legitimate replies to these people.
Omfg Lar stop PUGing. Come run with me and Seif. :x
I one time got people mad at me for saying that a Royal Jelly run was easy. I said that and they were like "show off, if its so easy then you solo it while we just kill ourselves". I was kicking butt while I was soloing but I ended up getting a typekill. So I left and replied to one of them saying: "Quit being so ignorant, I keep telling you that I thought one little swarm of monsters was easy and now you're crying like a baby calling me a show off just because I think something is easy. Heck, that's like saying "This run is hard." but someone else says that "THIS NOOB THINKS THAT THIS RUN IS HARD, KICK HIM BECAUSE HE'S SO WEAK!" It's nothing to get all serious over, we just simply killed a swarm and I thought that it was easy". So to get him off of my back I said that "It was only a joke." So then he says "if et was a jok why didnt you jus say so" then I said "Because, I didn't know that you and your friend were arrogant babies that cannot handle a simple opinion that doesn't affect you like "This is easy." So, he stopped replying and that guy was on my friends list but I removed him.
There. I downloaded the screenshots, censored them, and re-uploaded them.
I never intended to "name and shame" anyone.
That's why I most of the times I start my own party (like it's been suggested several times already). That way I can invite someone from my friend list or wait for the party to fill with random people, and I don't get kicked for wanting to solo the top right and rocket puppy rooms, or for wanting to go through the right path on FSC :3
Do feel free to add me in-game though! (In-game name is Arilys btw :p) Just write something in the friend request because I usually ignore requests with no message whatsoever.
@Laraso I knew you never intended to name and shame but thank you for removing the persons name, about the last half of the message, it was a question, would you rather eat ur dog or go to jail for 5 years?
Larosa: Freknight revive me
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Freknight help
Freknight needs help!
O_O not to put anyone to shame but I mean asking for revives or help is one thing i hate. Its common sense if your in a party, someone is bound to revive you. Sorry to tell you this, but for me, you and your buddie and the noob's player-maturity was below average.
Has it really gone this far downhill since I last played a few months ago? I have been playing the game (infrequently) for a very long time, and I almost always created parties rather than joined them as it allowed me to enter at the beginning of a tier rather than a random spot. The players were nice enough that I never felt the need to kick anyone for any reason other than AFK/dropped internet connection. The last few times I logged in, there were a few beggars in Haven, but they generally stayed there. The only forms of stupidity I found in the Clockworks were stubbornness, semi-illiteracy, and simple ignorance. If it really is as bad now as you say, I might have to start using closed parties of only friends/guildmates.
Nope, it isn't as bad as they are saying. Everyone keeps exaggerating.
Basically your topic is the same as Incization's "Why is damage so important in Lockdown?" thread. Im still nooby to forums so i dont now how to do that hyperlink thingy sowwy bro.
When someone asks me for free cr, I reply
"Do you like window sills?"
They will never come back!
I don't mind it when people ask to be revived, unless they do it constantly. Asking to be revived has nothing do with maturity.
Needless to say, I was the only one who was capable of killing anything, and if he didn't revive me everyone would have died.
P.S.: It's "Laraso".
Nope, it isn't as bad as they are saying. Everyone keeps exaggerating.
Honestly, I find this problem to occur almost exclusively by joining PUGs. It simply does not seem to happen (nearly as much) as creating your own PUG and waiting for others to join.
Lar here seems/seemed fond of just joining PUGs and thus was the victim of these personality problems a lot, but most people I know who just start their own parties (even when leaving it open for PUGs) just don't seem to have the problem as often.
I guess these types of people don't like the idea of not being able to kick people, and thus only ever find themselves leading their own party rather than joining others', lest they find themselves on the sore side of a akicking.
Whenever I have no T3 friends online, I join a random FSC party because playing through the Firestorm Citadel alone is rather boring. Needless to say, I end up running into this kind of stuff.
It's not just random parties or Firestorm Citadel, though. I run into these kinds of people everywhere I go. Even in locked parties, I'm not always safe. Sometimes people invite their "friends" to the party, and they act similar to this.
Maybe I just attract these kinds of players, but I often find it hard not to run into anyone like this during a play session.
All I need to do to find these kinds of players is to just walk around in Haven for a few minutes. Eventually, I'll have people following me and/or tell-stalking me asking for crowns.
I join a random FSC party because playing through the Firestorm Citadel alone is rather boring.
What I mean is that you could simply open your own party and wait for randoms to joins you, instead. It would result in the same thing but without leaving the kicking power to someone you're raging about. It would also (seemingly) reduce the odds of even seeing such people, and even if you do, you have the power to deal with them so you can continue your run in peace with the randoms who aren't infuriating you.
Maybe I just attract these kinds of players, but I often find it hard not to run into anyone like this during a play session.
Maybe you are just unlucky. Maybe not; I couldn't say really. I don't tend to join randoms because when I do FSC I do them as a speedrun, and prefer partners that I can coordinate with and use a set runthrough strategy; PUGs are simply not conductive to speedruns.
Perhaps I should have also mentioned I don't even have to walk around Haven to get people to follow/tell-stalk me everywhere. I've visited other guild halls before, and when I left, someone who was there started following me around to every joinable location (happened three times).
I don't understand what compels them to do that, but not all of my "followers" are annoying. Some of them are respectable, and for whatever bizarre reason, they often ask me if they can leave their guild to join mine (I've had that happen twice).
It doesn't make any sense, and maybe most of this is irrelevant to anyone but me, but that doesn't change the fact that it does happen to me on a fairly regular basis.
(Maybe it's because I'm wearing the Armor of the Fallen. Stupid maximum weakness to curse...(not serious))
EDIT: I could start my own public party instead of joining other games, but I find it more convenient to just join a party that's already almost full. More often than not, all I have to do is check the party list and there is at least one open FSC party with three players and one open slot.
I guess I could try it, but after what I've seen, I don't think it will be that much different besides the fact that I won't get kicked.
Wait, I ran into you once this weekend, with Wodan, I think.
But yeah, just reside in non-pub FSC and Clockworks T3 (Party finder's your friend) and you should be rather liberated from jerkwad territory. I'll take a good long look at this thread later when I have the time, but if you need some schmuck who isn't a jerk on runs, feel free to add Artifice.
I'm quite new to the game, but these are traits that I was somewhat expectant of before playing the game, as I am a pessimist. My experience with other players, low tier and high, has actually been quite enjoyable and grief-free, save a few times when:
-I was getting lectured for using the Auto-gun. Yes, I bought an Autogun when I was tier 1 before getting into the crafting biz. I "PUGed" the rank mission where you defeat Snarbolax and I was all ready to go, fooling around in the Mission room and what-not with the others, and I took my Auto-gun out. And the second player, rather well equipped, 5* iirc, was like:
disclaimer: I don't remember the exact lines, so these will be slightly exaggerated
"An Autogun? I suggest you don't use those, they're bad, trust me" Frankly, I'm not one to turn down advice from a seasoned player, but it felt like a parent pointing at a me and stating "NO", as if it were, well, wrong. I responded with "It feels alright to me". I did change it, of course, but then he replied "I'm a five-star, I speak from experience". And so, the we went down the elevator and started the mission. Before everyone got out of the starting point, I said "Simply because it doesn't play right with you, doesn't mean it's the same for me". I know that may come across as arrogant, but I was a little disgruntled. He Dc'ed or went back to Haven half-way throughout the first floor, which lead me to believe I might have struck a chord. He came back, though, and I apologized. He was a cool guy, actually, since he was there helping his friend, the party leader, with the mission, tabbing him and all that. This obviously doesn't really have to with the subject of "bad eggs among the others", but I wanted to share this in order to see what other higher tier players think about it. Is the Autogun really that bad, though? I quite like it, and I believe I do fair damage, but that's subjective.
-Another distasteful encounter was when I was doing runs in the Arcade with a PUG(I like that word). During an arena floor, another knight had joined due to the previous members leaving. Once again, a high tier player. We got to the end where all of the treasure boxes and crystals are and did the usual looting. Everyone got their crystals, except for one player. I didn't notice the lack of a crystal on his back until the high tier player pointed it out. Nothing was said, and we went to the next floor. So, next floor, we eventually ran into a crystal room. We destroyed all the crystals, picked up what we liked, except that one knight whom didn't get a crystal the previous floor, which, now that I think about it, why didn't he? Anyway, we all leave the crystal room, but said high t- ( I really don't know a better name at this point. And I'm not generalizing, mind you) player, stops at the entrance of the room and says to the knight whom didn't carry any crystal " [name] come here and get the chrystals(how he spelled it) I'm [f-bombing] tired of you not getting chrystals, it's [pssing] me off!" And it was in caps. And then he said "I'm going to stand here and protest until you get a chrystal". I told [name] that he doesn't to but it's beneficial, and we all just pressed on and died, and went back to Haven. What I didn't know was that all knights receive the total amount of minerals that were collected on the floor. Is this a common peeve for people?
Quite the first post, yes? I apologize if I 'dun messed up' with anything. I tried to portray these at a neutral point of view.
Isciira. Autogun is a good choice. Just so you know, tons of people use them. It's pretty standard for someone to have one I'd say.
When it comes to the crystal thing, I think the high tier guy was going maximum overreact. Yes, players receive each others minerals, and some people doesn't know this before they're deep in the game, but really, they're not worth that much... They're hardly worth anything at all alone, but they stack up after you've done many runs and can end up cashing out a bit, but it's really nothing to get fired up over if someone doesn't take one with them.
Also, congrats on your first post!
@Isciira
First of all, welcome to SK and enjoy your stay! :D
Now to pay a bit more attention to your post.
Getting an Autogun isn't bad at all; quite to the contrary, it upgrades to pretty decent guns and it can wreck quite a number of baddies if you learn how to use it well enough (especially if you have Attack Speed and Damage Increase bonuses :p). I'm guessing the 5 star guy you met in that group doesn't like the fact that you have to stay still in order to shoot the gun (Something I understand; I used to hate the Autogun lines because of that too when I was a 3 star, but now I'm really trigger happy with my Blitz in FIrestorm Citadel, beast or fiend levels!)
When it comes to weapons, just use what you feel more comfortable with. E.g, I hate using the Warmaster Rocket Hammer because I always end up killing myself but I've seen people chewing through zombies in FSC like they're butter (Even though the Hammer isn't a knife.. bad analogy is bad, sorry!)
As for the crystals, I think some players overreact. Sure, it's a few more crowns we can make, but we're rarely able to sell most crystals for 4 crowns (At least I rarely see them going for 4 crowns >_>), and with 4 crowns per crystal we need 500 crystals of that colour in order to get 2000 crowns. We can easily get more than 2k crowns by doing a Royal Jelly Palace run. Or any Tier 2 gate, I think. heck, it's even more profitable to grind Tier 2 bosses for the tokens and then sell the 3 star gear to vendors, which give you 3500 crowns :P (Not to mention farming FSC, every 30 tokens you can get a 5 star item that sells for 30,000 crowns. Pretty nice for a "free" item!)
NOTE: I don't value crystals much. I do pick them up because I like how silly the knights look with them on their back, but I rarely go sell them.
I believe many "good" players from the good old days got wiped out by lack of contents in this game. I still remember back in Steam launch last year, it was like the golden age of SK. It attracts people from different background and SK was a fun place to meet different people.
Then the lack of content meteo struck us, people left and guilds collapsing left and right. The recent GH update could lead to a second golden age. But do we really have to pay 400k a week for a fully upgraded GH? In my guild we had this little quarrel over where the upkeep funding sources should come from (centralized sources from 1-2 individuals or a blanket "tax" onto everyone). I can see no problem with big guilds. But for smaller guilds, it's either forcing us to collapse our GH to smaller magnitude (and thus skipping some useful features like guild training hall), or forcing us into CR farmers (something the mature membership of our guild advocates against because they have a day time job).
So Devs, are you going to revise that upkeep cost? Please don't just look at the amount of CR in circulation on the server. Look at the social aspect and demography of the gamer base also, and do something more sensible.
Since when did correct spelling and punctuation sound "stiff" and convoluted? Whenever I see correct spelling and punctuation, I never think anything besides "This guy must have passed his 8th grade English test".
There's a difference between "typing as you speak" and "typing as you write", but it doesn't have anything to do with spelling words correctly and putting punctuation in the right places. Typing as you speak means what you're typing is exactly what you would say if you spoke to the person face-to-face. Typing as you write is generally the same thing, except it's a bit more formal and elegant. Correct punctuation and spelling can be used in both styles.
I type an average of 80 WPM (I can go up to 120 WPM if I want to type something fast), so I kinda' know what you were trying to say. What I type is almost always what would come out of my mouth if I was talking to you in person, but I still use punctuation and correct spelling.
If capital letters and commas are offensive, then I apologize, but I just simply can't understand why you'd think that. Don't let your own premonitions and bias mess with the way you perceive other people.
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Let me elaborate a bit, just so I can be sure that there is no misunderstanding. There are quite a few different "styles" that people use to type their messages.
Take this sentence, for example.
"huy dud waht cr do u gots? i borro 3 ce plz." (copied from the original post)
That is the average level of communication I've come to expect from the Spiral Knights community. Those two sentences are very convoluted, and require extra mental processing to be able to figure out what they are talking about.
Now, wouldn't it be easier for everyone reading that message if it was typed like this?
"Hey, how many crowns do you have? I'd like to borrow three crystal energy, please."
That sentence is very easy to understand, and looks nice as well. However, that is "typing how you write", so I wouldn't expect that level of formality in the chat. Not only that, but it would take a considerable amount of time to write every message in that same style.
This sentence is a good middle ground: "Hey how much cr do you have? Can I borrow 3ce?" This is easily understandable, and requires almost no extra effort to type. This is the level of communication that I admire in a (in-game, not forum) community, but there are very few communities that bother to type like this.
The average level of communication that I see in most video game communities looks something like this: "hey how much cr do you have? can i borrow 3ce" While the lack of any periods or capital letters makes it a bit rough around the edges, it's still easy to understand, and is more than satisfactory.
And once again, this is what I see from most people in this game: "huy dud waht cr do u gots? i borro 3 ce plz." The only words that are actually spelled correctly are either one or two letters long, there are typos everywhere, and the unfinished words and chat-speak abbreviations makes this a particularly complicated message. Although it's not so bad that it is impossible to understand, it still requires a bit more time to be comprehend, and can often require you to re-read the sentence once or twice to make sure you understood everything. I honestly cannot imagine what is going through someone's head when they talk like this. There is no way that this is their best attempt at typing a message, and why they need to shorten a three letter word like "you" to "u" is beyond my imagination.