Are you saying that to me or Rex?
Suggestions that will improve game.
5 minutes???? Ohhhhhhh i get it.
Your one of those starter readers that cant read very well.
Well, for us people who read fast, that writing takes less then a minute to read.
Unlike you i read about 4 hours every day.
Again and again, *facepalms*
/dooms day facepalms.
Why every single post you make is kinda rude?
Ad Hominem, you have it. You can't counter-argue any more, only to find a weak point in my argument to personally attack and discredit me. You read fast, but did you read well... Personally I proof-read peoples' posts, and my posts to spot mistakes and errors in grammar and/or spelling, and also to further understand the post to spot continuity errors.
Insult me, I can't take it. But if you do really want to discredit me, you are only making a fool of yourself.
please cite the explanation comments, specifically the answers at my questions. I really want to see them.
"Luguiru is the god of the suggestion forums. since he does great suggestions since ever, contradict him is not a good idea."
Not entirely true. Lug usually has really good ideas, but he's wrong sometimes, and when he is, I'll correct him.
Hyiaku's suggestions were fairly brief, not very detailed, and some (fist-fighting in particular) probably won't happen. This does not give you a license to call him the equivalent of "stupid noob with no life" about ten times. Not everyone was needlessly hostile, but some of you were and it's really shameful. Faced with all this hostility, what did you think the guy's reaction would be? "Oh, hey, these guys are all calling me an idiot at once, how helpful! I didn't need my self-esteem anyway, let me go on and improve these suggestions because they deserve it!" Hyiaku's likely new to the forums, or he would've known this would have generated him this amount of flak.
As for you, Hyiaku, I'd work on improving your suggestions, accepting the constructive criticism you get (it does exist), and adding details to your suggestions, like you said you would. Here's my take on each suggestion.
1: Coliseum 1v1 Duel
A lot of people have suggested this before. The main problem with it would be that it would load in about fifteen seconds, then be over in around ten seconds. If you can think of a way the server can circumvent this problem, go ahead and put it here.
2: Fist fighting
Again, a common suggestion, much like Dual Wielding. But why would Knights bother using their fists when they can drop a Nitronome that probably hits much harder? A "boxing glove" or "brass knuckle" styled weapon, however, could work, provided you still are able to Block in some way.
3: Weapons in haven
Having weapons attached to you and not fire-able (hanging at your belt or on your back, or, in the case of a gun/sword, in a holster/sheath) would be acceptable. But if you could fire... well, think about how big and flashy Nitronome is. And Haven has over 100 people at a time Now think about 100 or so Nitronomes going off in rapid succession. MY EYES.
4: Water!
There's already been a few suggestions for water areas, like this one and some others. Think about how combat would be different, and be creative with the enemies; don't just plop in a Kraken and call it a day.
5: Class Missions
6: Curse Status Pad
Don't see why not. I think this ought to be a hazard in Graveyards, too- they're honestly not that dangerous anymore, and making the traps cause Curse is a step in the right direction.
EDIT: I've been Ninja'd! Or should I call it Ghostmane'd?
'Why would anyone want to put a fire pad in there?? When you catch fire, just run around!! ha ha ha only noobs fail enough to get caught by fire.
Actually... you just said itonly noobs fail enough to get caught by fire I did FSC run with cobalt set and did not die once... If I had caught fire it would've last 9 seconds and hurt...
When someone put a suggestion Titled "Suggestion that will improve the game" I expect more than a simple "This, that, that and that". I expect originality, yes I truly do! When I made this Thread, I called it "little suggestion, nothing fancy" not "suggestion to improve the game" and I did not start with a lame Yo, nick if ur out there listen up.
I expect "This, because we want X and since X is incompatible with Y then we should try Z + X"
All you gave is "I want this, I want that, I want that and that", when we ask you for detail you're like "ZOMG you n00b it's detailed! just read what I posted! You can read my mind can't you?"
/side-story when I was kid I was like you, I just said couple words and thought everybody would get it but nobody thinks like you so you have to lay down your idea in a constructive, proper and detailed way. Being a salesman helped me a lot for this /end side-story
Bout the water, again, He said: THESE ARE SOME IDEAS SOME PEOPLE THOUGHT OF BEFORE
Yes but what kind of underwater? Are we talking Sonic underwater where you drown after X amount of time or Mario 64 underwater, like you lose health when you are underwater and has to collect heat/cr to "breathe again"? Or even Hydrophobia? Or a mere Water trap like it was mentioned before in a detailed Thread?
Sometimes i just cant make out your stupidity.
It goes both way most of the times...
The suggestions are bad, we told why and I can tell why again. People have suggested better version of this, so why even bother? Yes the community is harsh, I got rolled over like you did when I first posted unoriginal suggestion that had no detailed (because I thought suggestion section were like any other games, which is not the case here)
Curse pads are useless... Here's why...
*step on curse pad*
"oh snap can't use my Glacius anymore and there's mobs in front of me"
*step on curse pad again*
"argh! still can't use Glacius"
*step on curse pad again*
"okay Glacius is back, moving on..."
That's just what's going to happen if I step on one
Weapons in Haven are terrible ideas, we would crash the server on a daily basis with all those polaris/btb charge/etc animation. Can't you think about Aussie's or Eu players where they already play with 1-2 bar connection and 150-300 ms ping when nothing is happening?
Oh and btw, i write like a grade one? well who cares??!! You guys write like grade 8s. WHO CARES??!! this is a forum where people post IDEAS......
Here's an idea... shut up and let it go
Edit: Wouldn't it be funny if Rexerr and Hyiaku were actually the same guy trying to "boost" his suggestion? Because it really looks like it...
We're trying to have a decent conversation with hyi here, but you just seem to be getting in the way. Can you please stop this. Hyi I'm still expressing my opinion that you should graveyard this thread purely because of the whole is Lug the god of the suggestion forum, debate along with someone who can;t help and keeps being sort of rude. Rex next time can you come off a bit less rude? we'll be more open to your suggestions when you start talking with a less condescending tone. EDIT: IDK if rexerr's a sock puppet. Might be, but he's posted numerous times around the forum. But one things for sure, he is new here.
I have never seen Rexerr or their writing style under another name in this foorim before. It could be blamed on the style being so generic and annoying to read with all the "hmmmmmmMmMmM" and "XDDDDalfkajklafd" and "THIS IS MY SERIOUS VOICE?!!?!?!?!" and inconsistent capitalization and "you guys fail so bad" and "ohhhhhhhhhHhHhH" and pretending to read. I have seen all these done before where people are sockpuppeting.
Sockpuppeting means using an alternate account to support yourself while pretending to be a completely different person. I have seen Eury lock several threads where people do this.
Wait a mi-
"Agree with everything with no reasons or intelligent thought, usually just saying 'yeah I like that' then calling everyone who disagreed stupid."
"Oh thanks for agreeing with everything I say for no reason but it makes me feel better about my awful ideas that you think they are good without saying anything worth its pixels."
This is definitely sockpuppeting.
"Looks like he is the only one that reads the WHOLE post"
Oh.
Oh.
Well then.
I guess this, this, this, this, this, this, this again, and this are all fake posts. Yurp. None of them are real.
This is disgusting. If NJ were here he would vomit all over the place then I would [join you in making the world a better place]. That would be less disgusting than this thread.
If Rex is your sock puppet, I would suggest deleting the account and closing this thread. People here don't take kindly to someone who creates an account just to agree with themselves that includes me. This guys a troll, not a good one at that.
This is me, REX ad i have my own account, i am not Hyiaku.
K, maybe i was rude but you guys couls use some politness towards Hyaku instead of going:
This sucks this sucks you suck crap crap crap
I have other threads to prove im not Hyiaku.
Check out my Haven mission one.
Rex is out.
Rexerr, you need to learn how to handle critisem or however you spell it (Not used to spelling that). Also, please do not try insulting us like those 10 year old kids who aren't supposed to be here.
This is just like a new disaster being formed in the lab by adding a red formula drop on someone and causing it to be combined by a volcano, leaving the whole city destructed.
I AM NOT HYIAKU!!!!
Ok i am ready to bet that most people in spiral knights speak the same way as me and Hyia.
SO?
Your saying that Hyiaku has like 1 mil other accounts?? His computer would crash.
You know, this suggestion place is a [fine establishment] because everyone blames each other:
Persef, Lug, Gzilla: Your Hyiku's sock puppet.
Everyone thinks of other suggestions as crap:
Lug: Water- Unoriginality check this is a piece of crap crap crap
Everyone else: Crap crap crap [pellets pellets] sucky sucky
I think you guys are [lovely people] that you keep treating Hyiaku's suggestions about.
We speak English not Rage.
@Benneh Boi just remember the word "critic" and add -ism.
"Hey Vlad, why are you digging a hole?"
"Oh nothing, just for this thread."
"Yo, nick if ur out there listen up."
"First of all, I've been here before they even came out with missions or canna so u can shut ur mouth."
"plz"
"Plus it gives u a basic attack that shows how strong your character is."
"Who cares how I type and crap like that I see people who type just like me pretty much yet r u criticizing them? Nooo, so back off on that subject will u? I'm not perfect u kno and I'm pretty sure ur not either
"If found the grammar police, I have luguiru's followers, and people who are acting like they want to be the SK team. Again nobody is seeing it in the way of noobs or the t2s or the ways of pros."
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/325/004/02c.gif
~Klipik's alt <-- See? this is my alt. Notice how I said that. And you didn't.
P.S. +1 to curse and stun pads. Useful to teach noobs what statuses do. Just because something seems self-explanatory doesn't mean it doesn't have to be explained. There will always be someone who doesn't get it.
Please keep it civil, folks.
"I have other threads to prove im not Hyiaku."
You mean this turd? John Freeman would tell you to slow down with all the everything everywhere. Get rid of the snort salts and get over your fantasy of self importance.
"Ok i am ready to bet that most people in spiral knights speak the same way as me and Hyia."
I will let you know when I care.
By mail.
"Persef, Lug, Gzilla: Your Hyiku's sock puppet."
"They insulted me with X, so I should call them X. Harp darp farts."
I already explained what sockpuppeting is for those uninformed. Assuming you had the bare minimum intelligence to read any posts other than your own, you would have known before typing that sentence how wrong you are. I wish I could think of something to describe how absurdly stupid you are being but you already insulted yourself.
"Lug: Water- Unoriginality check this is a piece of crap crap crap"
Did I say that? We can check.
"Yes, because there are annoying water areas where treasure boxes and enemies hide in and laugh behind our backs. In the fountain. Why else do I keep trying to get people to throw me in there? I want in on those secret underwater floors."
I never say anything about unoriginality though I should have. Know what you are talking about before crying over it. If anything I was giving ideas for something to do with your lack thereof.
Bay the why, water can make a good thread. The problem is you have no ideas on it other than "herp derp we can swim around". Well great, I never knew things could swim in water. Fish are as real as unicorns and honest politicians. Dolphins, whales; nurp. Fake. Fake like those posts which very specifically review every word in the original post. Stop acting like a spoiled brat.
I feel like this one got a little out of hand. Sorry, Eury <3
seriously people im gone for school come back and see rex is me?
i dont even kno the guy/girl
i said these were ideas. just because there arent curse pads in clockworks (they dont exsist yet unless they like) doesnt mean they cant be in training hall.
come on people dont just accuse someone of being an alt of another. if u think im rex ur dead rong. we have similar views and he gets what im saying.
@eurydice
wat do u think of my ideas. i kno they have not manty details but im working on more. tell me what u think and can u show this to nick and see what he thinks?
Look! An admin! What brings you here Eurydice?
I bet you're here to lock this thread
@Hyiaku Stop keeping your hopes up.
probably here to warn she is watching since people are ganging up on me and rex and whoever agrees with me
why u so negative?
fine i start +1ing youre idias already, all you guys better stop harasing my budy now or i'll report you.
She censored this and a line in my post about NJ vomiting like at the rewards ceremony when Tev wrapped up her contest. A line no more offensive than Hyiaku and his puppet have been. Subjectification.
Persef was satirizing your left hand and your response further proves it. Eury should lock this thread to stop the flaming and your sockpuppeting.
I DONT KNO REX I DONT EVEN KNO IF REX IS BOY OR GIRL
<_<
>_>
...Anyone else not care about each other's gender on the internet?
EDIT: Hang on, I did this. Why am I still here?
Cause that was Noklip you're Klipik. herpaderpaherp
I sent a support ticket on this because Hyiaku is trying to continue this fight and he's trying to think that he is the king on this.
who said i was king on this? come on i want to show some suggestions who said they were gonna be in the game?
why rex was posting wen i wasnt: I go to school people. I cant be on this all day.
HEY PPL!!!
Did you see what Lug wrote bout me?
And you guys said i was rude.
Read his last post:
-You mean This turd?
and read the rest of his comments.
Whos bein rude now huh ppl?
PS: @Benightz: So you say Hiyaku is trying to continue his fight and become king.
Last time i checked, it was Hyiaku's thread and not Lug's.
Oh and btw Lug you went rage quit. Eury is right. calm yourself lug.
I thought everyone here already outgrew diapers.
At this point I may as well be talking to my six year old neph- He outgrew this kind of immaturity already. A better comparison would be someone of any age after eight consecutive lobotomies and twenty consecutive joints. At least they would be happy in their trip.
You posted suggestions, all but one of which have been suggested before, and all with more detail than you put. Then you start it "Yo, nick", use atrocious grammar in responses in a place where good grammar is the standard, respond with replies ranging from moderately defensive to provocative to blatantly uncaring, [maybe] create an alternate account to compliment yourself, and then continue to drag your thread off topic by responding to off-topic posts instead of graveyarding your thread and starting over with a nice, fresh, clean slate any maybe fixing the problems the old thread had. Oh wait, you never admitted it had any problems anyway. :P
What did you expect to happen? Us to say, "oh cool this is a nice list of suggestions you have here, you should send it to OOO"? Sorry, that's not how the suggestions forum works. We tear apart ideas. I like to think it's to make them better, but sadly sometimes I think it's just out of spite. Stupid human nature.
So yeah. Can we stop flaming each other now? Delete this thread. If you still think the ideas are a good idea (which some of them are), do as Hex said and post them as separate, detailed ideas.
P.S: How do I do strikethrough?
Yeah Hyiaku i think you should put this thread to the graveyard or Lug will crash the serrver with all his insults.
He's doing criticism. Now, just stop, everyone stop commenting, let this thread go to the graveyard and everything will be alright.
Nope, I don't mean give your last insult and run. Thank you, and have a good day.
Hy/Rex
Stop insulting Lug or I will SMASH your tiny dimwit heads
He is my friend and I will defend him, you alternate accounts
Also, +1 to the curse pads. but -10 to everything else
You missed the part where we said stay away.
EDIT AFTER REREADING: not stay away from the forums. Welcome back. I meant everyone stay out of this thread and let it die, please.
Hi people! what did i miss? how are you doing? oh, i see, ahh i See, Oppsieee didnt read it before.
:3c Sowwy.
Please rex, we're not being mean here or at least not without you insulting us. You're a noob to the forum, don't deny it you don't even have an avatar, and from your other suggestions, it's obvious too, the one thing i hate on this forum is noobs thinking they're smarter, better, or trying to insult us all, and that is exactly what you're doing.
I've tried, along with a few other people to play it nice and try to be friends, but no you had to always deflect the blame at either us or lug more specifically. Not to mention we can't even take you seriously because of how bad your spelling and grammar are. I'm going to stop right now but really, stop with this fail trolling please? Or else you might have made some very bad enemies on the forum and in-game.
Omfg people I did not make an alt. get that through your thick skulls will u. I don't mean to be rude but come on. I really have 3 knights in game but that is with steam. How I'm using forums, I used to come here before steam had this then linked my accounts. S no I'm not Rex.
Lug is a great guy, but I can argue with the guy. But no I'm not Rex that is talking to lug, I'm me ok I'm Hyiaku and I'm proud to be Hyiaku. Don't forget it.
Hyiaku, I admit, some people are right.
You need to do way more research before you drop a thread.
Secondly, don't simply barge into everybody's cozy home and scream, "GIVE ME THE COOKIES I WANT. NOW!"
It does not work on these forums. Your suggestions are not without reason, but take things with a grain of salt.
You rudely barge in, and demand things. Instead of peacefully discussing things, everybody seems to be raging
on the guy who is clearly new to the forums, and clearly does not have much experience with these things anyways.
All of you should be ashamed of yourselves.
Just because you don't have an Avatar, doesn't mean you're a noob...
Because you can never not have one again :)
I'm gonna say I'm not new to forums but I don't post much of my own threads. I have a new thread posted and if us like to see it its in suggestions. But nah I just type the way I do because its shorter and easier to use.
Seriously? Rex? When were we rude to Hyiaku anyway? We only criticized on his comments, actually more or less raising questions and giving constructive feedback, such as how? How does it work? You come here showing a three interlocked gear with each other. Funny thing is, we all see it as this. It just simply does not work because the OP has not shown that it works like this instead. None of us were rude in any way, only retaliated because you or Hyiaku were.
Rex, you are pathetic, my post would have taken 5 minutes to read, but you finished it in less than 2 minutes. Amazing if you can understand all which I have said, sadly my effort is in vain. Bother me no more, you are only trying to defend the suggestion on curse pads with little or no details. Claiming fire pads exist does not prove anything as it is a fallacy in itself. I have completely explained everything, saying more will just be repetition.
Consider yourself dismissed, free to say anything. I believe in free speech, but with your rights to speak, I have mine. Your petty posts will mean nothing more.