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Irontech Bomb vs Nitro (in LD)

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Fri, 05/17/2013 - 18:41
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Mookie-Cookie

Hiya guys,

I've been doing some researching and whatnot about looking into crafting a damage bomb for use in LD (as you do). At first, I was aiming for a Nitro, as I've heard plenty of good things about it. However, then I saw someone using an Irontech Bomb, and noticed it had the "Fair chance of causing Minor Stun" on it (I probably should've checked before I started crafting. Luckily, I can still change my mind).

As uncommon as it is, I needed to look into the Irontech. Firstly, I found this, which implied Nitro was generally the better bomb. Even the bombing guide found here implied as much. However, I did a bit more searching and found a post by Zeddy here, which made me unsure, yet again.

Assuming you went for Irontech, you'd be better off just getting the 4* and leaving it there. Trading off between Nitro and Irontech Bomb, you find:
Nitro //
- Faster walk speed.
- Faster fuse speed.

Irontech //
- Higher damage.
- Fair chance of causing Minor Stun.

Now, the bombing set I intend to use is full Mercurial, with a mist bomb (currently VT or SS) and some sort of damage inflicting weapon. That means, I end up with MSI Med. I can't say whether it would or not, but I'd assume that would cover the gap between MSI+0 Nitro and MSI+2 Irontech, in terms of walking speed (although, yes, the gap doesn't change between MSI+2 Nitro and MSI+2 Irontech; I stated this in case Nitro/Irontech users haven't tested with the MSI).

Now, Zeddy, and the bombing guide, states that 4* Irontech has the same blast radius as a 5* bomb. However, when you see this, it looks a lot smaller. However, as that picture is from 2 years ago, I'm assuming it's possible the blast radius was changed at some point, but the picture was never updated. If so, could someone clarify this for me?

Lastly, though, I'd think to point out the damage bomb would be used more as a defensive, than offensive weapon in my case. The mist bomb would debilitate the enemy, where the damage bomb could force them away (hence, the fuse time is half a worry, not a major one). Heck, using the Irontech Bomb on its own could debilitate them.

Ultimately, I'm looking advice as to whether I should get a Nitro or Irontech Bomb, to be used within a LD setting. Any insight is welcome.

Thanks! :)

tl; dr: I've been looking into the pros and cons of Irontech Bomb vs Nitro, for LD. In my particular case, the two bombs are quite close to one another. Please read the whole thing before throwing out "get Nitro".

PS: I've already asked this to a few people, and they've all recommended Nitro. So, Nitro remains my first choice, but I'm still a bit unsure.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 19:41
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Little-Juances

If you're not planning not being on the offensive, why not a BAB? super KABOOM.

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 19:52
#2
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Zeddy

"but I'd assume that would cover the gap between MSI+0 Nitro and MSI+2 Irontech, in terms of walking speed"

Nope, not even close. You'll be sluggish with Irontech no matter what. I had to eventually stop using Irontech in Lockdown because strikers learned to dash in, hit me, and dash out between bombs, and I found I needed the extra speed for Nitro to deal with that. I'm going to have to try it again when the features on the test server gets implemented, though.

The wiki pictures for Irontech are outdated. BAB, Irontech and Nitro radiuses were equalized during The Great Shard Tragedy of August '11.

Sat, 05/18/2013 - 00:18
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Mookie-Cookie
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If you're not planning not being on the offensive, why not a BAB? super KABOOM.
I abandoned the idea of a BAB mainly due to the charge time.

Nope, not even close. You'll be sluggish with Irontech no matter what.
I think I'll get a Nitro. Might get an Irontech Bomb too and see how the two fare for me. As for now, though, a Nitro will do. Cheers.

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