I have been thinking of this idea for a while now. I am not sure if the SK team has thought anything of like this yet. But you're probably wondering how there would be different worlds if they crashed on cradle I was thinking items could lead to it. Like the artifact. So they make some sorta discovery about it and it leads to another planet so they think, "Maybe there's something else possible to help so there. I diden't want to say too much because its the Staff teams that decide on the story. (Pause here, I was just gonna say this is the part I am not sure about, Sending Spiral Knights to other worlds. I am not sure what the situation is if that is possible later or no or yes? I was just thinking that because what is going on I mean like because of how devastated the SK knights main planet is. Or maybe you could gather materials on planets to build your own small ship.) And other small things could lead to other planets... And certain events can be only on certain planets...? And there could be multiple planet events maybe... And you could start off with your 5* equipment on other planets and it would say hat star it is for each planet. You can right click it and open a menu to show what stars it is on certain planets... And if it ever gets to multiple planets it would say Equipment not valid for this planet. I am not sure I just thought I should get this out of my head and stop thinking about it.
Different worlds?
doesn't solve the boredom problem. once done with a world, we'll get bored again. there should be infinite possible worlds, one different from every other, to make this viable. otherwise we'll always get in the same problems as now, and so it's a waste of time.
behold the magic of a mis-doubleclick.
Take you and you're problems with non perfection with life some were else please.
thanks for the advice, but I'll stay here. after a year you get used to the ones who can't accept critcisim.
I ment not on this thread and by problems with perfection by, Nothing has to be perfect. Nothing will be perfect.
yeah, well, if you want to sugest something is to improve the game. this won't improve the game, cause it's won't solve problems, it will only delay them.
You could say that to every suggestion, now when are you gonna go away?
actually, no. I can't say that to the multiple radiant complaints and suggestions. I can't say that on survival modes. I can't say that on new coliseum games. I can't say that to gear balance suggestions, or well, to good ones. same for enemy balance. I can't say that to this little thingy. I can't say that into game breaking mechanics like dual wielding, I must explain why it's game breaking at least. I can say that to something that just adds plain content that will not solve the problem it's supposign to solve, like new missions, new worlds, or new events. I actually comment only on few of these discussions because the ideas can be good for another time, but another planet is just no with the lore and game mechanics we have right now.
The boredom problem is much bigger than you may think. it's just that there isn't another cradle out there, so a single planet would turn out as one huge clockworks level, which will add nothing to gameplay cause you can't have infinite different monsters to fight, and so it will become redundant after a while. then we have a lore of why we need the core, so we will run straight to Isora (Spiral Order home planet) when we will harness the power of the clockworks, then the game will be over, cutting all the additional storilines you may ahve in mind into the next game.
Thunder... you've grown up... so fast (cries)
I take that as a compliment.
thanks.
Of course you can say something. Dosen't mean it's true. And nothing will solve any boredem problem. Therefore, You can say that to EVERY suggestion. And this suggestion I have here, Delays it for alot longer then most if all suggestions. So now go away and jump off a cliff you troll.
@Pre-Epic
Thunder's the farthest thing from a troll here. He's given positive feedback, added in some humor without being gloaty or condescending, not to mention is the only person to have posted on your thread.
@Thunder
It was a compliment. I remember when I first saw you wandering around here and I always had a bit of difficulty understanding your somewhat-incoherent sentences and subtle points, but you've really flourished since then. Your posts are generally mature, and despite lacking considerable knowledge on proper letter capitalization, I've come to enjoy your company around these parts.
What Thunder said was true. It looks like you're only looking at the bright side of your suggestion, you'll be surprised at what you'll find when it comes to that point when you can no longer avoid looking at the other side.
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You can say that all you want, But what i'v said is true too. Go ahead and support you little friend there this will just be the graveyard of a very entertaining idea. And he just keeps going on and on attacking the thread even though what he's saying is some thing that can be said on every other thread. And you can keep argueing about this thread, Or you can think for one second.
Go ahead and support you little friend there this will just be the graveyard of a very entertaining idea.
Then graveyard it now, please.
And he just keeps going on and on attacking the thread even though what he's saying is some thing that can be said on every other thread.
And what you're saying is...? Yes, that line can be used on every other thread, but so what? You're the one who posted on a forum-- It's a place where anybody can have their own opinions. Sorry for sounding a little mean, if I did.
And you can keep arguing about this thread.
Been there, done that.
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Dude, you posted on a suggestions sub-forum. Where are the details? The point of making suggestions is to make the game better than it is right now, but at the moment, Thunder is correct. This will only slow the game's growth, and you hadn't even written up the details on how to make it work, to cancel out flaws and perfect it. Yes, not everything is perfect, that's why we try.
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Try and get used to criticism, you can get hit fast and hard. This reminds me of a certain debate...
what the, there was a post of mine here! awwwww. I'll go for the short version of what I said.
pre-epic, boredom problems can be solved with a survival mode. just an arena with 16-20 spawning points that spawn random monsters. (in fact, forget about my previous suggestion of a survival mode, and keep this.) an infinite depth generator would be good too, but that would kinda be another survival mode. anything with a bit of randomness and a great number of spwaning points should be good. diffrerent planets, well, ok variety, but you can't expect the variety cradle has. if we want new monsters and enviroments (and belive me, if they are good we want them as a a temporary solution to boredom) we just ask for them, not going for other planets. besides, with the lore we have, once we harness the power of the core, we run straight to Isora (Spiral Order home planet) and the game is over, cutting all your ideas on new planets on the next game. but I already said this, actually.
thanks hex. I know I don't make sense sometimes. many times. and not being a native english speaker has its effects on my writing (no, my capitalization will most probably never change.)
Honestly if it where to be released, I would not find this fun at all. Thunder made some very good points and criticism and there was no call for you to be aggressive at other peoples opinions. So -1.
I WANT EVERYONE TO READ THIS
@Hearth Finally someone that uses common sense. I'v written up plenty of details to make it work; The way items would transfer, A world menu, Just go back over it. "SLOW THE GAMES GROWTH"? Okay, I understand what you're saying here but this irritated me alot at the same time. (Before you read the next part of this let me say I ALWAYS think LONG and HARD on what I say.) I see how you would think that this would slow because of a few things, The GUNNER improvements and the BOMBER improvements. Other then that it needs NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING more that I would think of, I first played this game a long while back. Fun, Somewhat addicting (okay that was a lie on the addicting part) but I diden't feel it needed anything else besides a gun boost and more items for the bomber and a boost. And now what I have been thinking on this is they're about to finish the major change improvements. Other then that the SK staff will probably be lazy in their money beds. This what I have brung up has been attacked because I brung it up a bit early (maybe a couple months) from were it would be best. And about the reply to attacking I diden't think that was mean at all. And yeah it can be put on every other thread, And people that do that is what I like to call, HEAR ME LOUD AND CLEAR. TROLLS. TROLOLOLOLOL trolls. And yes the "criticism" by one troll who had 2 friends with him who DID NOT. I repeat. DID NOT THINK FIRST. And now I am having to write this long and clear...
It's SPIRALing out of control. :D
Alright, on a more SEERUS note.
Okay, for real this time. I'm going to either post seriously Gorgo.
...
I'm no longer in control of my own brain.
/e slaps xyrself in the face with a chair.
There we go. Onto serious matters.
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I'm trying to not become a *shudder* Luguiru here. Compared to him, this thread's replies are the highest acclaim. We need more details:
-Why would the Spiral HQ allow people to build their own ship when THEIRS IS STILL BOOMIFIED?
-Details. How could this realistically happen (though even thinking that OOO makes realistic decisions is hilarious. Like drop dead hilarious. No, put away that Grim Totem.)? Why would the Order go to other planets without first solving what they came for? For all they know they could being going on a tame goose chase. Goose. Duck. Duck is delicious, especially with some good soy sauce...
-How the heck could they even teleport onto another planet without noticing "Oh look. Gremlin attacks have decreased by 37%, and no important ones have been seen."? Well then again, they are the local government, and we ALL know how effective governments are at governing people in a governing government in their government.
-You should be PRAYING that Luguiru won't shred you into bits and eat you for breakfast. Those poor cops, he thought they were donuts, and he was so hungry...
Finally someone that uses common sense.
Eh... wat?
the "criticism" by one troll
One troll(reading the earlier posts, I assume it's Thunder). I would disagree with you on this-- Thunder is hardly a troll. But, your opinion on who to call trolls and otherwise are up to you.
┬┴┬┴┤(･_├┬┴┬┴ - from here, I happen to like that one emoticon.
lol, troll. I'm gonna stop posting cause you're not hearing any reason.
meanwhile I really hope Lug comes by cause we need some crazy person here. sandwitch, don't try, you're not even close.
I really hope Lug comes by
Unfortunately that'll never happen. I hear they've now switched to using full-body cast-iron restraints in his padded cell.
@Sandwich-Potato Hey, About the part with the ships, I said; "I was just thinking that because what is going on I mean like because of how devastated the SK knights main planet is. Or maybe you could gather materials on planets to build your own small ship" You diden't read it well enough now did you? Because I thought that a small ship would be a much better idea then a starship like SKs has there.... And the part about not solving what they came for.... Well the core is sealed now isen't it? What are they gonna open it with the artifact? Uhh Maybe I shoulden't of given anyone ideas... But just saying.... And this "Luguiru" I never met him; I saw what he did there (LOL) and i'd probably just argue with him... And the goverment part, Ha-ha----ha.... Okay, Why are you talking to yourself Sandwich?
@Hearth The reason I am calling him a troll is because comming along and saying that to this thread (why not others?) AND A- Not thinking first B- If you're gonna troll say something actually trolly (I call that trolly from what he first said because it's something ridiculous and not thinking)
hey, thanks for making me saying something about me.
The reason I am calling him a troll is because comming along and saying that to this thread (why not others?)
I guess I already said that, read my post #17.
AND A- Not thinking first B- If you're gonna troll say something actually trolly (I call that trolly from what he first said because it's something ridiculous and not thinking)
and you call me troll for one post? you should call rude 90% of the forumers cause on the first post on many suggestions they have been rude cause it's the derpbillionth time someone asks. like my first post, that like an automatic response at the thread. it has been asked so many times that we kinda cut it short on the "no".
hey, I made a great first impression.
Think about it this way. You have 1000 people who need to go into ships to go out into the ocean for a 3 week voyage. Would you rather have one big ship, where all the budget can flow into, with 1 main engine, 1 pilot, 1 captain? Or would you rather split it into 100 boats fitting 10 people each with 100 main engines, 100 pilots, and 100 captains? Which one's more cost-effective? (Hint: If you say the smaller boats you're wrong.)
Also, about the whole opening Zee Core thing: They have limited crew. How many people do you think can cram into that small starship anyways? The escape pods are huge compared to it. Down at the Core, you have the most experience researchers working overtime to open the Vogsinged thing. Up above in the lab you have the best Biotechs studying the wildlife of ONE. PLANET. And they've got energy problems with RUNNING ONE LAB. ONLY ONE. Do you think that they can just magically wave their Wrench Wands, go Abra (Kadabra) (Alakazam) and summon enough energy to power even more without a Vogsinged problem? And that's not even considering the strategic folly of leaving a place filled with hostiles that can more easily wipe you out if you send yet MORE people to other planets. Half an army's going to do worse than a whole one, bucko.
And anyways, about other topics. Do you think that each and every person on the Skylark knows how to pilot a ship, alone, and MAKE IT THEMSELVES? What, you think that the Skylark carried a bunch of shipbuilders? How about two of every animal? Could they rename it the Ark?
TL, DR: One big ship is more efficient than thousands of smaller ones. They have limited supplies, men, and energy, so they can't spare any to explore random shenanigans. Cradle's jampacked full of hostiles, and if you split up your army it's a recipe for disaster. Extra explosives, please. Not everyone on the Skylark KNOWS how to pilot a ship, and it's unlikely that anyone COULD build a good ship from scratch with makeshift materials from an alien planet. If this was chess, I'd say Check. Your move.
The OP's left this rotting thread too long in the open the vultures are starting to swoop.
First off, I will pretend I did not read any of the comments in this thread. Allow me to summarize your suggestion:
- Discovered items point to different worlds.
- There can be clue chains, items leading to worlds containing items leading to other worlds.
- Certain events can only occur on certain planets.
- Some events occur on multiple planets.
- Some equipment is restricted to certain planets.
Is this a good summary of your suggestion?
If so:
- "Worlds" is too large a setting. If discovered items pointed to different "levels," I could support this.
- This is a good suggestion. Clue chains are fun to follow. Just change "worlds" to "levels."
- Again, let's change it to "Certain events can only occur on certain levels." This would be fine.
- Assuming "planets" are changed to "levels," this part would be fine. The Kataclysm and Dark Harvest are like this.
- No. Restricting equipment is not fun.
TL;DR, if you change "worlds" to "levels," your suggestion would be pretty good, albeit vague and hard to read.
Sandwich, I would of said something about your post but I quit caring about this thread a few days ago and I still won't care I just got curious what $h!t was said
same suggestion as one of my first rejected one's
Cool idea, backing it up. Besides, Cradle has got a Moon and some circles of asteroids by it, so why not to go there? And I really love the idea of your own small spaceship. Maybe there should be a prestige mission to build one? (Why not rank-up mission? Imagine the rage of all Vanguards when they will be deprived of their "Vanguardness".)
do you even...
look, the resource of our salvation is the core. inside the pile of stuff. we must explore the clockworks to get in the core. after we get in the core, we go to isora and we might as well end the game, cause there should be a massive mechanic overhaul to make what's next. even if we get some energy, we would power up something else, not ships (see the lab).
Oh, And you don't keep upgrading your cradles 5* you get different sets... For example if you had a snarble 5* you will have to get some other wolver set for that planet. Equipment stuff like Helmets/Armor/Swords/Guns/Bombs won't be any upgradable on a different planet. Some serious thinking will have to be done if anything like this is considered.